Calculations on a completely filled map

[Karsten75]

Mare inconsiderately locked a topic that a number of us were participating in.

In that, UpperKEES said:

My prediction: you'll be able to place 782 reactors on your map, minus 9 where OC is located. 737 reactors generate 737 * 0.3 = 221.1 energy. Odin City produces 0.8 energy (actually 0.876), so you'll end up with a total of 229.976, truncated on your display to 229.9

I wonder if UpperKEES factored in that one needs collectors to connect all the reactors?



Even so, I seem to have 248 energy. Oh yes, I remember, I awarded myself an upgrade to generate 10% more energy!  :)

On an unrelated sidenote: I just found out that the backspace key in CW generates a "standard-sized image of  700x525 pixels, regardless of how large the screen is on one's desktop.

[UpperKEES]

Mare inconsiderately locked a topic that a number of us were participating in.

Yeah, I also would have liked that topic to stay open.

I wonder if UpperKEES factored in that one needs collectors to connect all the reactors?

Nope, UpperKEES didn't. ;D

Even so, I seem to have 248 energy. Oh yes, I remember, I awarded myself an upgrade to generate 10% more energy!  :)

I guess you also awarded yourself -10% building costs and +20% building speed? ;)

On an unrelated sidenote: I just found out that the backspace key in CW generates a "standard-sized image of  700x525 pixels, regardless of how large the screen is on one's desktop.

Yeah, neat, isn't it? Saved me quite some time compressing images in the past....

[Blaze]

Too much time?

[UpperKEES]

No, actually too little.... because of this.... :P

[Sqaz]

You could get more energy by using relays, as the place you win to build reactors will gain much greater profits than the collectors collection.

[Karsten75]

I wonder if UpperKEES factored in that one needs collectors to connect all the reactors?

Nope, UpperKEES didn't. ;D

But it seems you did omit that, since otherwise your calculation would have been as follows:

782 possible positions
- 1 for a totem (0 energy_
-9 for Odin City  (0.876)
- 54 collectors to connect everything (11.664)
= 718 reactors generating (.3*718 = 215.4)

For a total of 227.94.

Add 10% energy boost - 250.734

So why does the screenshot only show 248.2?

[Karsten75]

You could get more energy by using relays, as the place you win to build reactors will gain much greater profits than the collectors collection.

You can't connect more things to a relay than you can connect to a connector. If you use relays, the space the relay occupies does not generate any energy.

[UpperKEES]

But it seems you did omit that, since otherwise your calculation would have been as follows:

Indeed. I didn't factor it in.

782 possible positions
- 1 for a totem (0 energy_
-9 for Odin City  (0.876)
- 54 collectors to connect everything (11.664)
= 718 reactors generating (.3*718 = 215.4)

For a total of 227.94.

Add 10% energy boost - 250.734

So why does the screenshot only show 248.2?

The collectors on the right side overlap 2 blocks.

[ssddgghh]

you can get more reactors like this

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Basically the connections form parallel columns instead of a square grid then you send one row across the side to connect all of them together

[Karsten75]

The collectors on the right side overlap 2 blocks.

Ah!

Math fail. :(

[UpperKEES]

Hmmm, now I think about it: a difference of 2.5 is a lot of energy for just 2 overlapping blocks. When the whole column would overlap this would affect 48 * 2 = 96 blocks. Each block delivers 0.004 energy: 96 * 0.004 = 0.384, so we are still missing 2.1 (rounded). ???

Edit 1: 2 of them overlap with OC for about 60%. This means about 0.2 less energy, so now we are still looking for 2.1 - 0.2 = 1.9

Edit 2: we should also substract the 10% energy boost from above results. We're talking about approx. 0.06 energy. It's not much, but it helps getting there.... ;) Did you save this map? Maybe it's a good thing to let it run one more time without the +10% energy upgrade.

[Mare]

Mare inconsiderately locked a topic that a number of us were participating in.

In that, UpperKEES said:

My prediction: you'll be able to place 782 reactors on your map, minus 9 where OC is located. 737 reactors generate 737 * 0.3 = 221.1 energy. Odin City produces 0.8 energy (actually 0.876), so you'll end up with a total of 229.976, truncated on your display to 229.9

I wonder if UpperKEES factored in that one needs collectors to connect all the reactors?



Even so, I seem to have 248 energy. Oh yes, I remember, I awarded myself an upgrade to generate 10% more energy!  :)

On an unrelated sidenote: I just found out that the backspace key in CW generates a "standard-sized image of  700x525 pixels, regardless of how large the screen is on one's desktop.

I am so sorry, I did not think that people were so interested with that subject, Thanks for continuing the thread!!!

[Sqaz]

You could get more energy by using relays, as the place you win to build reactors will gain much greater profits than the collectors collection.

You can't connect more things to a relay than you can connect to a connector. If you use relays, the space the relay occupies does not generate any energy.

Yes you can look at the screeny. I'll upload another one once I'm finished building.

[UpperKEES]

Yes you can look at the screeny. I'll upload another one once I'm finished building.

I would replace the top row of relays by collectors for max energy. Even some of the other relays can be replaced to max out the collection, as long as everything stays connected. The time to build it all would go up, but that's not what we're testing now.

[J]

May you build everithing faster if OC was located on a corner.
Why... If OC is connected to 4 collectors and 12 reactors, OC will use only 0.8 energy for a longer time than a connection with only 6 reactors and 1 collector.