Custom Map #3630: map 98 LARVA. By: yum234

[Builder17]

I don't believe that it's possible to rate under 1 , maybe number of scores still doesn't tell all , cause you can rate without winning map?

Try starting make maps in other author name and tell new name here in forums?

Or maybe you must also change map making style if you change map making name?

[yum-forum]

I don't believe that it's possible to rate under 1 , maybe number of scores still doesn't tell all , cause you can rate without winning map?

Try starting make maps in other author name and tell new name here in forums?

Or maybe you must also change map making style if you change map making name?

Mathematics is an exact science!  :)

It is not problem of only my maps. In case of Your maps and maps of other authors also sometimes haters do so.
But I like statistics and find weak point of recent rating system.

All that is needed from the administration - not significantly changing the rating system to make one little amendment!

[GoodMorning]

It does mean pushing out a new version of the game, and disabling ratings from all older versions unless a score is submitted...

However, those of us with no control over the rating system still enjoy your maps, and hope for more. Perhaps if the author is forbidden to rate, and others permitted only after winning... But this is best implemented in PF. I continue to favour the idea of showing the rating distribution, rather than collapsing it to a single number. This could also be broken into won/not won sections. Show the victorious in full colour, and the incomplete in muted tones. And rate by difficulty and fun, in different sections.

That's my opinion, and it only remains to request a mostly void, partially stars map.

Until what I hope will be next time.

[yum-forum]

It does mean pushing out a new version of the game, and disabling ratings from all older versions unless a score is submitted...

I had long experience in IT field and I think that very easy change soft on server side without new version of the game and disabling current rating.

However, those of us with no control over the rating system still enjoy your maps, and hope for more. Perhaps if the author is forbidden to rate, and others permitted only after winning... But this is best implemented in PF. I continue to favour the idea of showing the rating distribution, rather than collapsing it to a single number. This could also be broken into won/not won sections. Show the victorious in full colour, and the incomplete in muted tones. And rate by difficulty and fun, in different sections.

That's my opinion, and it only remains to request a mostly void, partially stars map.

Until what I hope will be next time.

Your idea attractive for me but in this case really will be necessary new version of game.  :)

P.S. Manipulation with rating (as now) means neglecting action of normal players who rate maps...

[chwooly]

Yum, Life is unfair.

If you make it so that only those that finish a map can rate that is not fair either, There are maps that I have rated that I can't finish.

So if I spend an hour and do 15 restarts but can't finish I shouldn't be able to rate? Most likely I am going to rate it low but that is how it is, that also lets you know that it is has some issues and that people don't want maps that only feed to a specific game play.

[GoodMorning]

A note: Give it a week, we said, it'll get a good rating, we said. Result: Good rating.

It takes seconds to give up, but minutes to succeed, so give the ratings from people who won time to come in.

[yum-forum]

A note: Give it a week, we said, it'll get a good rating, we said. Result: Good rating.

It takes seconds to give up, but minutes to succeed, so give the ratings from people who won time to come in.

Kind of philosophy. I respect it.  :)

[yum-forum]

Yum, Life is unfair.

Generally You are right. But humans try to create a better and more fair life!  :)

If you make it so that only those that finish a map can rate that is not fair either, There are maps that I have rated that I can't finish.

So if I spend an hour and do 15 restarts but can't finish I shouldn't be able to rate? Most likely I am going to rate it low but that is how it is, that also lets you know that it is has some issues and that people don't want maps that only feed to a specific game play.

Partially I agree with You. Some maps very hard (for instance, most of maps of Sorrontis or ea3401 in CW2) but it is not means that they are bad. I never rate map if I not finished it. One more example. I played last map of Master Kalek. Made more than 20 restarts and can not finish it!  And still vaiting for hints in Forum... :-[ But I played all other his maps and very enjoyed.  :)

In case of my maps haters/hackers rate absolutly playable (mostly easy to start and multi-variant) maps in the begining or when rating became high. This is different case. Not specific game play.

[GoodMorning]

Essentially, we ask that you follow the philosophy that is on the forum guide: "ignore what you don't like, praise what you do".
Ignore the ratings, look at the comments. Because

Spoiler

many of us await your next map, and some are probably running out of back catalogue... (hint)

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[yum-forum]

Essentially, we ask that you follow the philosophy that is on the forum guide: "ignore what you don't like, praise what you do".
Ignore the ratings, look at the comments. Because

Spoiler

many of us await your next map, and some are probably running out of back catalogue... (hint)

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Thank You! Good suggestion in spoiler even for me.  :)

P.S. As said "Terminator" - I will come back!  :)

[GoodMorning]

As I recall, the next we see of it, it's crunching through the wall in a mechanical construct.

[stdout]

Desperately waiting for more yum maps. I know I can (and do) go back and play old ones but I want fresh new yums!

[knucracker]

Alright, my interest was piqued so I took a quick look.

For map 3630 as of the time of this writing there are 64 ratings.
They are:
Eleven 10's
Nineteen 9's
Twenty 8's
Four 7's
Eight 6's
One 5
One 1

Looking at the "1" and seeing what other ratings that user gave out I see he/she has 11 ratings.  They are:
9,8,8,7,7,5,5,1,1,1,1

It looks like 3630 is actually a really successful and highly rated map.  The single "1" comes from a person who hands out 1's, but not exclusively or mostly.  So in spite of the normal negatives associated with the internet, etc.... I'd say this is on the rosy end of the spectrum.  Most people, most of the time are fighting the good fight around here.  Maybe even more than normal compared to similar places on the internet at large.

For map #77, these are the raw ratings as of 'now':
10,10,10,10,10,10,9,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,8,7,7,7,7,7,7,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,6,5,5,5,5,5,4,3,3,3,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1

One thing I do see that I'll take care of next week is that some ratings are associated with inappropriate user names. I'll go through an do some fancy sql and clean out those ratings.  My bet is some 1's are associated with those actors and removing their ratings will help just a tad...

[GoodMorning]

A shot in the dark... but would a filter to identify users with only 1s as ratings be useful for bad-name detection more generally?

And looking back to the complaint at the start of the thread, it appears that some users may begin a map by setting the minimum rating, then playing and updating it once they have evidence. This, while reasonable, will artificially depress the ratings for a short time after upload.

[yum-forum]

Alright, my interest was piqued so I took a quick look.

One thing I do see that I'll take care of next week is that some ratings are associated with inappropriate user names. I'll go through an do some fancy sql and clean out those ratings.  My bet is some 1's are associated with those actors and removing their ratings will help just a tad...

Thank You for so kind replay!  Life in CW3 is not so unfair! :)