Custom Map #1377: Two minute game. By: RrR

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One spore tower, one emitter, how long can it take? #puzzle

[pastor.healer]

I know you are giving out your hard earned technique here, I just don't see how you did this in your posted time.  What is
worse is that I know it is legit!  Haha....

[iwishforpie2]

Hey, this looks eas-oh, super fast spore tower. gg no re

[NextIdea]

Figured it out thanks to the following:

Magic?

Time	CN x2	PC x2	Nullifier	Spore tower
00:00.00
00:03.00	Land	Building
00:10.00				Ready
00:20.00		Building finished/Charging
00:27.00		Charging finished
00:30.00		>Doing some magic<		1. Wave
00:33.00			Building
00:50.00				2. Wave
01:00.00			Building finished/Charging
01:10.00				3. Wave
01:14.00			Charging finished/Firing
01:16.00	-	-	Firing finished/END	-

Time line only shows that there is 6 second time to kill creeper, which is obviously too small amount.

Bug?

The only thing I can think about is a bug, which I encountered in that map, when Creeper Spore Tower drops AC - then it's only possible.
Magic? Weird bug!

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If you figure out the correct actions, then it's easy to reach that time.

Such maps always remind me some other ones where I still wonder how it's possible to finish so fast.

[RrR]

It is a game with two routes to victory. The standard approach and a fast alternative requiring lateral thinking and magic (but no bugs - standard creeper physics).

I have an idea for a particularly devious game...

[willbir]

Okay so with the clues on this thread and bit of trial and error I see what this magic trick is, but is this something that was programmed into this map or is this some novel behavior that I've not noticed before ?

[stdout]

There is no CRPL present in the map. How does the spore tower alternate between AC and C?  ??? ???

[DestinyAtlantis]

I haven't yet played the map, but how much Creeper does the spore have?
If you remember from Creeper World 2 or watched closesly at the black hole from the forge you will notice that once the Creeper amount goes over 2147 (2^31) it switches to -2147 (-2^31) because that's how signed integers work in programing. Maybe it has something to do with that, but it's only a guess.

[RrR]

That guess would be correct.

[stdout]

Cool map, and awesome puzzle. I had no idea about the signed integer issue. But I feel like this is a bug in CW3 and therefore I wouldn't personally be excited to see this in many future maps. If I was the developer, I would make a bug fix to prevent the creeper from flipping like that.

[teknotiss]

Cool map, and awesome puzzle. I had no idea about the signed integer issue. But I feel like this is a bug in CW3 and therefore I wouldn't personally be excited to see this in many future maps. If I was the developer, I would make a bug fix to prevent the creeper from flipping like that.

it's an intentional function, in CW2 the same event occured, it is possible to use this tactically, just trickier in 3 than 2.

[GoodMorning]

Egad. I wouldn't have thought there was room in that score table to slip in another suboptimal strategy. I was wrong. I found two.

[Martin Gronsdal]

Spoiler

is the shield part of the equation? when I didn't have a shield, the spore tower only gave a small puddle of AC. Using the shield, it produced tons of AC

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