If you've overdone a level, post it here. For this one, I was just playin around on day 14, next I'm going to destroy all the repulsors and see what happens.
I had nothing better to do with my time then completely overdo this level hahaha.
hmm, this level was cool
you win! lol
Oh please, I over do every level.
Heres is some of my work.
All that overbuild and no shield to keep it more contained >:(
well, here's one where i just had too.... and i'm not done yet
2: after i opened it up...
after a certain point... more launchers become wasteful. They'll all fire at one point at the same time... so the first 3 or 4 are fine, but after that they all just waste ammo on non existant creeper. use some repulors and shields with blasters if you want to be more effective.
you know, i totally forot about repulsers.... lets see if i can get it done faster with them
*shouts after him* and try less launchers... and you can probably do it a lot faster breaking open the hole by the gate, putting shields in front of it first... and clearing a hole behind it too.
Sadly i don't have a save with this one anymore :(
But basically i just kept forming a line of alternating launchers and blasters, when i went to the last 4 i figured that i could take all 4 at the same time, which resulted in the game sorta crashing, the game was still running the UI was fully responsive, but the gameworld was dead, so i had to save, reload, wait 5 seconds, save, reload, etc.
Quote from: thepenguin on May 18, 2011, 07:34:08 PM
hmm, this level was cool
I guess this pic was from the beta
wow.... a lot of people have really overdone day 18... I thought my 20 blasters and 10 launchers was too much. lol
18 seems to be quite popular.
wow... I did that with 17 blasters and 10 launchers.
I tend to do things like that with all my days. This being the only one i actually took a picture of though.
Lol, pos a screenshot of day 19!! There's almost no overdoing that last pit... Just seriously under doing like me.
Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 20, 2011, 10:52:41 PM
Lol, pos a screenshot of day 19!! There's almost no overdoing that last pit... Just seriously under doing like me.
I'll get to it once my new Graphics Card arrives.
ETA. Unknown. (Sometime this Week. Hopefully.)
day 18
I just realized... shields can be deactivated. :O lmao.
Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 21, 2011, 07:31:42 PM
I just realized... shields can be deactivated. :O lmao.
I never knew that always just destroyed them.
same here.
Well, truthfully it's about the same thing deactivating as destroying - because if creeper touches the shield while it's deactivated (not friendly creeper) then it will be destroyed instantly - which means that unless you're deactivating the shield to let friendly creeper through, and anticipate the creeper to somehow overrun the shield again when you reactivate it..?
Quote from: Kithros on May 22, 2011, 06:35:21 AM
deactivating the shield to let friendly creeper through
Yes, this would be the only reason to deactivate a shield (or like for any other unit: to stop it from finishing building to preserve energy or prevent it from being targeted by drones).
Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 20, 2011, 06:52:34 AM... I thought my 20 blasters and 10 launchers was too much. lol
Well, hope you get a kick out of this:
Quote from: Cotters on May 24, 2011, 08:29:21 PM
Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 20, 2011, 06:52:34 AM... I thought my 20 blasters and 10 launchers was too much. lol
Well, hope you get a kick out of this:
Bahahah! That's one way to protect the city against drones. How mad would you have been if you still died?! XD
I really overdid bonus mission 1, here's the screenshot!
How does everyone manage to do overdone days yet still have nowhere near the amount of reactors as me? I look at so many of these and go "wow they excavate a lot more than they needed to."
Quote from: Krell on May 27, 2011, 02:02:49 PM
How does everyone manage to do overdone days yet still have nowhere near the amount of reactors as me? I look at so many of these and go "wow they excavate a lot more than they needed to."
Now I'm interested... I want to see a screenshot of you getting many more reactors than that on bonus day 1. Maybe I can learn something from it....
Well that's not a good example for me because of all the eroding terrain. I was talking in general, though if you had gotten in there sooner you could have gotten a lot more. the Barbarian hordes one I filled about 90% of the map up. I could do the map again and get a screenshot, but I hate that level with a passion.
Ya, barbarian hordes is a pain. So many drones, so many drones!! I still have nightmares...
Greeper is the answer to all your problems!!! :D
and a butt load of blasters!
I hate drones! I'm having fun destroying them now on bonus day 10.
I have a screen shot of when I maxed out the 60 packets per second of the LS using 150 blasters.
isn't it a 55 packets per second limit??
Nope. It's 60.
hmm... I've never had that much collection on a map before. That's a bad thing considering my love of overdoing things.
If you have saved up some gems, or the map started with an energy reserve, you can burst higher than 60 packets/second - up to the stored gem reserves.
with 80 stored gyms, couldn't you technically send out 80 packets per second for 1 second..... then go into an epic deficit. lol
I believe if you have say, 20 energy crystals, and 80 energy production, it will be able to send out 80 packets per second without actually using any of the crystals (I can't say from actual experience, but I think this is how it works), essentially it can send out up to 60+(number of crystals) per second, but only uses the crystals if the energy storage is at 0. I think it's kind of silly to be designed this way, I'd rather it either have a cap to the amount it can send out or just have no cap at all without worryng about crystals and such, but oh well.
Anyway, day 20:
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/AVRJ0.png)
Kithros, you suck. Now I have to do an even bigger overkill with dark beams..... however you beat THAT! lol
Quote from: Kithros on June 09, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
I believe if you have say, 20 energy crystals, and 80 energy production, it will be able to send out 80 packets per second without actually using any of the crystals (I can't say from actual experience, but I think this is how it works), essentially it can send out up to 60+(number of crystals) per second, but only uses the crystals if the energy storage is at 0.
Yep, I've been generating up to 173 energy per second and using all of it without toughing the crystal energy I saved to be able to do so.
Quote from: Kithros on June 09, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
I think it's kind of silly to be designed this way, I'd rather it either have a cap to the amount it can send out or just have no cap at all without worryng about crystals and such, but oh well.
I reported this about 2 months ago in beta, but Virgil decided to leave this in. I have to say I'm very happy he did, because it's the only way the circumvent the 60 packets/sec cap by the LS and you'll need lots of energy when beating titan emitters with just regular weapons. It's fun to be able to do so and I think a lot more people would have been complaining about the 60 packet limit when this feature wouldn't be available.
You have to be very careful though, because when you lose that tiny bit of crystal energy by dispatching too many packets your entire defence will collapse. In my opinion this constraint makes a fine penalty for careless attacks/overbuilding.
Quote from: UpperKEES on June 09, 2011, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: Kithros on June 09, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
I believe if you have say, 20 energy crystals, and 80 energy production, it will be able to send out 80 packets per second without actually using any of the crystals (I can't say from actual experience, but I think this is how it works), essentially it can send out up to 60+(number of crystals) per second, but only uses the crystals if the energy storage is at 0.
Yep, I've been generating up to 173 energy per second and using all of it without toughing the crystal energy I saved to be able to do so.
Quote from: Kithros on June 09, 2011, 10:50:44 AM
I think it's kind of silly to be designed this way, I'd rather it either have a cap to the amount it can send out or just have no cap at all without worryng about crystals and such, but oh well.
I reported this about 2 months ago in beta, but Virgil decided to leave this in. I have to say I'm very happy he did, because it's the only way the circumvent the 60 packets/sec cap by the LS and you'll need lots of energy when beating titan emitters with just regular weapons. It's fun to be able to do so and I think a lot more people would have been complaining about the 60 packet limit when this feature wouldn't be available.
You have to be very careful though, because when you lose that tiny bit of crystal energy by dispatching too many packets your entire defence will collapse. In my opinion this constraint makes a fine penalty for careless attacks/overbuilding.
Well, my point is that I would be fine with having it not cap out at 60 packets per second - I just don't see any logical reason for crystals to need to be factored in for the max packet amount being sent out. By all means, let the cap be higher than 60, but requiring crystals to do so without even using the crystals is completely counterintuitive.
I can see this feature being used in many custom maps.... *gets to work designing one* also, check this out! I made an ebony heart using dark beams. XD
I have so over done this level (I did not know if I should revive this topic or start a new one.)
As a general rule of thumb, reviving an old topic will make grouchy people here less annoyed than making a new topic of an existing one. ;)
There's no pleasing people here... Though I'm happy the topic was revived. XD
Quote from: Fisherck on August 01, 2011, 08:37:46 PM
As a general rule of thumb, reviving an old topic will make grouchy people here less annoyed than making a new topic of an existing one. ;)
One person comes to mind...
Quote from: CobraKill on August 01, 2011, 09:30:50 PM
Quote from: Fisherck on August 01, 2011, 08:37:46 PM
As a general rule of thumb, reviving an old topic will make grouchy people here less annoyed than making a new topic of an existing one. ;)
One person comes to mind...
I wonder who that is.... ;)
Quote from: DarthVader12 on August 01, 2011, 07:53:16 PM
I have so over done this level (I did not know if I should revive this topic or start a new one.)
please remember to use search before posting, and not to revive old threads :P
but then what is he supposed to do? not post it? that seems rather not good... ;)
alright, let's get back on topic before we upset even more forum watchdogs. XD
I know I cant please everyone but this was a really good topic and thank you for all who defended me. ;)
Quote from: DarthVader12 on August 02, 2011, 12:29:37 PM
I know I cant please everyone but this was a really good topic and thank you for all who defended me. ;)
don't worry, the forum is full of self-contradictions
Quote from: DarthVader12 on August 02, 2011, 12:29:37 PM
I know I cant please everyone but this was a really good topic and thank you for all who defended me. ;)
As the creator of this topic, I take that as a compliment. XD
You really had to ask about overdoing?
After they said in one level that it was a fortress, I set out to make one.
i have another one. 1000 technytes!
Darth, you should see Kithros' picture of day 20 with 20,000 crystal energy after killing the nexus.
HAX!
Or at least extremely slow unit production at start, considering a significant lack of reactor ground, and no real energy for unit production :p
@Ebon - Vid or it didnt happen. That sounds impossible.
Quote from: Ranakastrasz on August 02, 2011, 05:54:42 PM
HAX!
Quote from: cclloyd9785 on August 03, 2011, 02:06:59 AM
it didnt happen. That sounds impossible.
By now you guys should know that:
1. Some great players are part of this community.
2. Impossible things often turn out to be possible after all.
3. Accusing people without proof won't make you very popular around here.
4. Searching the forums answers almost every question (search for
day 20 crystal by
kithros):
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=6923.msg43432#msg43432
Quote from: UpperKEES on August 03, 2011, 02:16:01 AM
Quote from: Ranakastrasz on August 02, 2011, 05:54:42 PM
HAX!
Quote from: cclloyd9785 on August 03, 2011, 02:06:59 AM
it didnt happen. That sounds impossible.
By now you guys should know that:
1. Some great players are part of this community.
2. Impossible things often turn out to be possible after all.
3. Accusing people without proof won't make you very popular around here.
4. Searching the forums answers almost every question (search for day 20 crystal by kithros):
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=6923.msg43432#msg43432
The self control required for that is Extremely high, I could never do that. Hence why I edited my post before (I guess you quoted right after I posted), As i knew it could be possible, but extremely difficult.
I have done it. I have achieved the maximum packets per second and froze the game!!!
I took full screen updates and mist effect off and it still froze.
Before the game froze
(http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9103/1020o.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/215/1020o.png/)
(http://img820.imageshack.us/img820/6299/1021o.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/820/1021o.png/)
After
(http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/7765/1023m.png) (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/1023m.png/)
hahaha! nice! And you know... even if you take mist effects off, it still calculates for the mist, it just doesn't render it. So taking off mist effects actually doesn't improve game performance.
After pressing the '='-key, you can see the amount of frames per second at the bottom right of your screen.
This isn't a day, but it is funny.
On a code map I used only conversion bombs to kill creeper, and I had most of the stage with 35M thick AC. I set 1 maker to Vacuum and 49 to charge. The vacuum one was able to keep me at max ore and charge all the others.
I feel bad for that one poor emitter you left there. :P
Why? Because it cant ever escape, or because if it does, theres another DB backing it up?
Quote from: cclloyd9785 on August 08, 2011, 06:18:27 PM
Why? Because it cant ever escape, or because if it does, theres another DB backing it up?
Not to mention you've trapped the poor thing in the middle of an ocean of Anti creeper.
The sad part is, if the DB wasn't there, it would cover an area about 4x bigger than the shielded area in a minute or 2.
It was powerful.
At least I gave it mercy and put shields around it so there was no AC.
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 08, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: cclloyd9785 on August 08, 2011, 06:18:27 PM
Why? Because it cant ever escape, or because if it does, theres another DB backing it up?
Not to mention you've trapped the poor thing in the middle of an ocean of Anti creeper.
says the guy who did this (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7123.0)
Quote from: thepenguin on August 09, 2011, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 08, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: cclloyd9785 on August 08, 2011, 06:18:27 PM
Why? Because it cant ever escape, or because if it does, theres another DB backing it up?
Not to mention you've trapped the poor thing in the middle of an ocean of Anti creeper.
says the guy who did this (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7123.0)
That was a drone, not an emitter. Drones are evil and have no souls, they deserve to die. :P
This isn't a day, but fans of overbuilding may enjoy my underground research base.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/kdfo6.png)
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 09, 2011, 10:59:16 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on August 09, 2011, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 08, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: cclloyd9785 on August 08, 2011, 06:18:27 PM
Why? Because it cant ever escape, or because if it does, theres another DB backing it up?
Not to mention you've trapped the poor thing in the middle of an ocean of Anti creeper.
says the guy who did this (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7123.0)
That was a drone, not an emitter. Drones are evil and have no souls, they deserve to die. :P
Drones in CW1 aren't :P
Quote from: thepenguin on August 09, 2011, 09:39:20 AM
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 08, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
Quote from: cclloyd9785 on August 08, 2011, 06:18:27 PM
Why? Because it cant ever escape, or because if it does, theres another DB backing it up?
Not to mention you've trapped the poor thing in the middle of an ocean of Anti creeper.
says the guy who did this (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7123.0)
I thought it was your save file that he did this with? Doesn't that make tyou just as evil? ??? Me confused:
Quote from: Sqaz on June 05, 2011, 02:58:33 PM
It's already known that this can happen, from earlier this day, by me, in the beta.
What a coincidence, did you perhaps use the save file from TP. It was there where this situation occurred with me.
Seeing that's a drone on the bottom of the map it might aswell be exactly the same one.
Quote from: Jay the Juggernaut on August 09, 2011, 03:58:06 PM
I thought it was your save file that he did this with? Doesn't that make tyou just as evil? ??? Me confused:
Quote from: Sqaz on June 05, 2011, 02:58:33 PM
It's already known that this can happen, from earlier this day, by me, in the beta.
What a coincidence, did you perhaps use the save file from TP. It was there where this situation occurred with me.
Seeing that's a drone on the bottom of the map it might aswell be exactly the same one.
well, this was sure one great save game file
and now they can't yell at you for posting it! :P
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 09, 2011, 06:45:44 PM
and now they can't yell at you for posting it! :P
exactly