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A list of CW acronyms and abbreviations            

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Anti-Creeper

Quote from: MadMag on May 14, 2011, 04:02:27 PM
Anti-Creeper

is that a sugestion, or a corection

btw, happy 666^th post

hehe.. thanks!

thats a correction.

Madmag you devil

Quote from: ontheworld on May 14, 2011, 04:06:52 PM
Madmag you devil

(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/chat/img/emoticons/devilish.png)

ha ha ha

fixed

Maybe you should add "Juggling" for when you continuously let drones fly between two micro rifts by respectively activating and deactivating them.

Quote from: Sqaz on May 15, 2011, 01:13:09 AM
Maybe you should add "Juggling" for when you continuously let drones fly between two micro rifts by respectively activating and deactivating them.

Bridging Equivalent.

Quote from: Blaze on May 15, 2011, 01:29:58 AM
Bridging Equivalent.

Wouldn't say so, bridging was a lot more useful. And I doubt you will be able to use this to pwn as many maps as were with bridging.

CBombs, ConBombs, Conv. Bombs, C-bombs are just abbreviations. CB's is more useful, just like MR's for microrifts.

Juggling should definitely be in the list (although used for other games as well), because it makes much more sense than most of the other mentioned terminology. Of course it should be explained by mentioning MR's.

Save-scumming (http://www.google.com/search?q="Save+scumming") is common terminology used for many games, not just CW.

Also please note that something only becomes common terminology when widely adapted. I've never heard/seen anybody calling phantoms 'flies'.

I think we still need a name for luring drones with the LS in the beginning of a mission.
And maybe one for targetting creeper with a launcher through a MR.

Inspiration anyone :)


Btw: IMO you can remove the (!spoiler alert!) since here you won't find anything that can be really seen as a spoiler.

drone-baiting and micro-launching perhaps?

Quote from: UpperKEES on May 15, 2011, 06:36:43 AM
I've never heard/seen anybody calling phantoms 'flies'.

Me, I yell at them every time an attack occurs saying "YOU STUPID FLIES!!!". :D

D-lure

I have one, Loaded terrain - creeper embedded in the ground.

It's called 'entombed Creeper' (Virgil's own words).

Imbued terrain, to refer to the terrain containing entombed creeper, but not the entombed creeper itself. (That is to say, imbued terrain has entombed creeper in it.)

Quote from: mthw2vc on May 22, 2011, 04:39:34 PM
Imbued terrain, to refer to the terrain containing entombed creeper, but not the entombed creeper itself. (That is to say, imbued terrain has entombed creeper in it.)

is there general agreement on adding this?

Quote from: thepenguin on May 22, 2011, 05:38:53 PM

Quote from: mthw2vc on May 22, 2011, 04:39:34 PM
Imbued terrain, to refer to the terrain containing entombed creeper, but not the entombed creeper itself. (That is to say, imbued terrain has entombed creeper in it.)

is there general agreement on adding this?

for me, yes

rift launchers!!! You'd never believe how useful it is when you need more room for blasters behind your shield. Not to mention you can get your launchers to reach much further this way.

Quote from: Krell on May 25, 2011, 08:02:40 PM
rift launchers!!! You'd never believe how useful it is when you need more room for blasters behind your shield. Not to mention you can get your launchers to reach much further this way.

I use it when they're a big wall  I can have my blasters up front, with a rift in front of them... The launchers on the other side of the wall, with a rift there too. The result: launchers tha fore through indestructible terrain!

no leapfrogging ???

general agreement on adding leapfrogging and rift launchers to the dicrtionary?

What's leapfrogging??

Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 26, 2011, 07:00:51 AM
What's leapfrogging??

I was hoping that the person who agreed with adding that could define it well.

Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 26, 2011, 07:00:51 AM
What's leapfrogging??

Almost as old as the road to Rome Tucana. See here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=279.msg1951#msg1951) and please use the search (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=search;advanced) option.

Quote from: UpperKEES on May 26, 2011, 07:52:22 AM

Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 26, 2011, 07:00:51 AM
What's leapfrogging??

Almost as old as the road to Rome Tucana. See here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=279.msg1951#msg1951) and please use the search (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=search;advanced) option.

okay, a short, general definition

Quote from: thepenguin on May 26, 2011, 07:53:44 AM
okay, a short, general definition

Advancing by having 2 or more blasters hopping over each other.

CW2 abbreviations:

CW		Creeper World
KC		Knuckle Cracker
LS		Liberation Ship
TD		Tech Dome
OR		Ore Rig
MR		Microrift
PC		Phantom Coil
DB		Dark Beam
DM		Dark Mirror
CB		Conversion Bomb

Do not forget TT: Topsy Turvy or the ability to build any direction. :)

adding

Not sure whether you'd want to add these or not, but I think it may simplify refering to different gates on different maps.

Some gates are Phantom-Gates, some are Drone-Gates and some seem to be Packet-Gates. There rarely seems to be gates that can do more than one of those, and if there are, I guess you could combine the prefixes.

So:
PhG - Gate which will spawn Phantoms.
PaG - Gate which will spawn Packets (to erode terrain).
DrG - Gate which will spawn Drones.

Quote from: Emmote on May 27, 2011, 07:49:10 AM
There rarely seems to be gates that can do more than one of those, and if there are, I guess you could combine the prefixes.

The' first time you encounter drones you already see a PhG and PaG combined and in Minion Surprise you can see a PaG and DrG. And in the coming Code Maps this also happens very very often.

But nonetheless I do like the abbreviations ;)


Edit: BTW TP who is that Auzrel in the first post ;)
       And those abbreviations were IMO already used long time before Kees posted them.

who is that auzrel..... WHAT??!!?!?!??!?!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o
EDIT: I mean how can you not know him

Quote from: Sqaz on May 27, 2011, 10:28:42 AM
And those abbreviations were IMO already used long time before Kees posted them.

Yep, just common abbreviations (to regular players). This is how it should be: collect common terminology in a dictionary instead of making up words to get them into a dictionary. :)

Quote from: UpperKEES on May 27, 2011, 10:40:33 AM
Yep, just common abbreviations (to regular players). This is how it should be: collect common terminology in a dictionary instead of making up words to get them into a dictionary. :)

Yes, that's why it sounds weird to see that you're the inventor. A word should only come here when it's used so much noone remembers who actually decided to use it as the first one.

Quote from: Sqaz on May 27, 2011, 10:48:46 AM
Yes, that's why it sounds weird to see that you're the inventor.

Oh, never even noticed; didn't look at the first page. As far as I'm concerned the names can be removed.

Quote from: Sqaz on May 27, 2011, 10:48:46 AM
A word should only come here when it's used so much noone remembers who actually decided to use it as the first one.

Yeah, the inventions are more important than the inventors (and didn't Virgil invent it all? ;))

There are several inaccuracies in this thread - for one, a quick search will reveal that Karsten75 *never* made one post with the word "greeper" in it.

There is an old 2009 post by "The Smoking Revolver" which I imagine is more a typo than anything else, and then ThePenguin started using the word. AFAICS, apart from a small group of people, no-one else uses that word either.

whoever started greeper, I use it all the time. So they were on to something!

I don't

Quote from: Ebon_Heart on May 27, 2011, 11:32:47 AM
whoever started greeper, I use it all the time. So they were on to something!

I refer you to the "small group" appellation I used.

Greeper was tagged in the blog if I remember correctly.

Quote from: Sqaz on May 27, 2011, 10:28:42 AMThe' first time you encounter drones you already see a PhG and PaG combined and in Minion Surprise you can see a PaG and DrG. And in the coming Code Maps this also happens very very often.

But nonetheless I do like the abbreviations ;)

I've only played a couple of the bonus missions, and obviously none of the code maps, so yeah I didn't know that.

I guess that PhG's and DrG's can both send out packets. So I guess you could ignore the PaG abbreviation.

Quote from: Emmote on May 27, 2011, 01:03:38 PM
The' first time you encounter drones you already see a PhG and PaG combined and in I've only played a couple of the bonus missions, and obviously none of the code maps, so yeah I didn't know that.

I guess that PhG's and DrG's can both send out packets. So I guess you could ignore the PaG abbreviation.

There are also gate's that send phantoms and drones and not all gates send packets, day 20, only 2 of them do. Mayby there's also a gate (editor/code) that can do it all.

Quote from: Sqaz on May 27, 2011, 10:28:42 AM
The' first time you encounter drones you already see a PhG and PaG combined and in Minion Surprise you can see a PaG and DrG. And in the coming Code Maps this also happens very very often.
But nonetheless I do like the abbreviations ;)

Quote from: J on May 27, 2011, 01:43:30 PM
There are also gate's that send phantoms and drones

reading, it's hard isn't it  ;)

Quote from: crazyone76 on May 27, 2011, 10:34:25 AM
who is that auzrel..... WHAT??!!?!?!??!?!!! :o :o :o :o :o :o

use search, first person to use it

Quote from: Grauniad on May 27, 2011, 11:12:20 AM
There are several inaccuracies in this thread - for one, a quick search will reveal that Karsten75 *never* made one post with the word "greeper" in it.

There is an old 2009 post by "The Smoking Revolver" which I imagine is more a typo than anything else, and then ThePenguin started using the word. AFAICS, apart from a small group of people, no-one else uses that word either.

thank you for your corrections, Grauniad

Why keep a reference to the Assault Ship (AS) now it's called Liberation Ship?

Quote from: UpperKEES on May 28, 2011, 07:00:51 AM
Why keep a reference to the Assault Ship (AS) now it's called Liberation Ship?

For the same reason we have 5 names for Conversion Bombs?

Quote from: Ranakastrasz on May 28, 2011, 08:33:12 AM

Quote from: UpperKEES on May 28, 2011, 07:00:51 AM
Why keep a reference to the Assault Ship (AS) now it's called Liberation Ship?

For the same reason we have 5 names for Conversion Bombs?

no, for the reason that some people might get mixed up (and so then people can look it up in the dictionary :))

Quote from: Ranakastrasz on May 28, 2011, 08:33:12 AM
For the same reason we have 5 names for Conversion Bombs?

Yeah, pretty useless.

Quote from: thepenguin on May 28, 2011, 08:35:24 AM
no, for the reason that some people might get mixed up (and so then people can look it up in the dictionary :))

It's more likely that people get mixed up by looking at this dictionary, because it's always called Liberation Ship in the story maps.

so no adding rift launching?

Quote from: Krell on May 29, 2011, 10:35:13 PM
so no adding rift launching?

hang on, adding

You must change the dictionary... Greeper has nothing to do with Anti-Creeper. I see people write about Greeper, what is Greeper? Good Creeper? Nothing is called Good Creeper.

Quote from: MadMag on June 01, 2011, 01:11:46 PM
You must change the dictionary... Greeper has nothing to do with Anti-Creeper. I see people write about Greeper, what is Greeper? Good Creeper? Nothing is called Good Creeper.

qft

 :)

"Quoted For Truth"

I recently switched to using 'anti-Creeper' as well, just because it's the official terminology, but I actually prefer good/friendly Creeper.

It's kind of soft and cloudy and doesn't bite at all. I keep some jars of it at home and my cats love to play with it.

I must honestly say, my eyes get worse everythime I see the G word... Not you Grauniad =)

Every time I see "Greeper" I think someone's typo'd Creeper - and then wonder what on earth they're talking about because it's all in the wrong context.

It was originally used in the blog and it caught on so I continue to use it.

this has been put to a vote here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7092.0)

Greeper is the way to go! Woo!

greeper un-deprecated

Titans: emitters with 20M+ intensity.
Ultra-titans: emitters with 200M+ intensity.

Quote from: UpperKEES on June 05, 2011, 11:30:50 PM
Titans: emitters with 20M+ intensity.
Ultra-titans: emitters with 200M+ intensity.

Don't forget this one:
Super-Ultra-Mega-titans: emitters with 500M+ intensity.

Quote from: Kamron3 on June 05, 2011, 11:31:46 PM
Don't forget this one:
Super-Ultra-Mega-titans: emitters with 500M+ intensity.

Nope, categories go up by a factor 10, so the next level would be 2000M (= 2B), but I'm sure we won't see these babies.

Maybe nice to know there will only be 1 type of map featuring ultra-titans (and on these maps their intensity actually doesn't matter that much).

Considering the creeper cap of ~2B, after which it wraps to anti creeper, that would not be exceptionally useful.

Quote from: Ranakastrasz on June 06, 2011, 11:33:19 AM
Considering the creeper cap of ~2B, after which it wraps to anti creeper, that would not be exceptionally useful.

Well, I thought the Nexus emitted 2B/second.

the codewise cap is at little over 2 billion, so 2B/s is plausible, but assuming int is used, wont be much higher then that.

Quote from: Sqaz on June 06, 2011, 12:09:39 PM
Well, I thought the Nexus emitted 2B/second.

Sounds like a great name for that category. ;)

Well, The reason for a codewise cap is mainly because of the way creeper is stored on the map, as a signed integer of 32 bits, which means it can hold values all the way from -2,147,483,648 to 2,147,483,647. Since anti-creeper is represented as negative values, and creeper as positive, there are quite a few notable things about this. One, you cannot have any more than 2,147,483,647 creeper in one cell, as it would overflow, (computer term for when a value wraps around and becomes negative) and become anti creeper Now, This does not mean you cannot have an emitter with 2 Billion power, but if you did, it would need a lot of room to spread out if you dont want it to fill up, overflow, and start annihilating itself. However, Since there IS an option to make an emitter stop working if it has more than some amount of creeper nearby (how large of an area does it check? and Can you use any other operators, such as less than, so an emitter only starts functioning when creeper is already nearby?) It would be fully possible to make ridiculously powerful emitters so long as you make sure they cannot fill up an area to overflowing.

A Goldilocks code map - one that is not too hard, yet not too easy. Varies by the perception of each player.

TP, I love how you keep greeper on but are to lazy to add the AC, A-C, etc.

It might also be a good idea to alphabetize the list as well. It would make easier for people looking up a term to find it.

Still, it's a useful thing to have!

Quote from: ontheworld on June 10, 2011, 02:02:11 AM
TP, I love how you keep greeper on but are to lazy to add the AC, A-C, etc.

grr, adding, sorting, and indexing

the new, alphabetized dictionary is live!

Yep, yep, noone will believe anyone citing this dictionary as given to be true... The terms here are often more likely to cause confusion and many aren't used at all except by people who are looking to this dictionary. Honestly, it's really more a list of abbreviations than anything! :P

author sources removed due to lack of information!

Quote from: MadMag on June 10, 2011, 10:42:34 PM
Hey! I got one.. When you dig smart! DIGDUG

You can like call it DD...   (I was first?)

(I bet you don't remember Digdug)

just to make it more simple:

AC   Anti-Creeper   virgilw
A-C   Anti-Creeper   virgilw

You can ask virgilw if AC and A-C is from him.. thats a reliable source isn't it?

Personally Madmag, I think the dictionary is just fun, it's not very practical, just fun.  ;D

EDIT:Fixed Spelling errors thanks to thepenquin (tell me if I spelled this wrong i probrably did) I suck at spelling XD

Quote from: The Commander on June 11, 2011, 08:30:52 AM
Personally Madmag, I think the dictionary is just fun, it's not very practical, just fun.  ;D

spelling errors fixed

I have seen db shields and dark beam bridge. What is that? Posted in reference to July 4, 1776

Quote from: BoostBreed75 on July 23, 2011, 03:42:57 PM
I have seen db shields and dark beam bridge. What is that? Posted in reference to July 4, 1776

The db isn't on. It's armed (hotkey A). ;)
Not sure 'bout db bridge. ???

BLAZE MADE MY DAY!! AND EVERY TIME PHANTOMS ATTACK, and, and, EVERY TIME I LOOK AT MY SIG! *huff* *huff*. ;)

Quote from: Jay the Juggernaut on July 24, 2011, 07:22:05 PM

Quote from: BoostBreed75 on July 23, 2011, 03:42:57 PM
I have seen db shields and dark beam bridge. What is that? Posted in reference to July 4, 1776

The db isn't on. It's armed (hotkey A). ;)
Not sure 'bout db bridge. ???

I didn't say anything about the db being on or off? Armed or Disarmed. Just inquiring about the meaning of db shield and dark beam bridge. I apologize for any misunderstanding.

Oh, sorry. minor misunderstanding. I don't think I've heard of db bridge before...? Maybe the shield is a line preventing the creeper from advancing?

Leapfrogging is the best stratagy for tunnels.
it works, man.

Leapfroging is nice, but while I do that, I tend to dig holes for my launchers.