This topic is for discussion of map #9808: Persistance
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Author: NamelessMiss
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its possible, very hard, very annoying had to restart 2 hours in
restart 2 hours in? nice, seems like a game i can play while also playing everquest
Interesting challenge.
I managed to take the center island at about 21:00, but can't see a way to invade the bottom land without massive Guppy fleets.
I hope I'm wrong.
Any advice from one of you old timers?
Thanks,
H
advice: sometimes repurposing what was once useful, may lead to more effective usefullness
Quote from: Helper on January 11, 2022, 05:49:07 AM
Interesting challenge.
I managed to take the center island at about 21:00, but can't see a way to invade the bottom land without massive Guppy fleets.
I hope I'm wrong.
Any advice from one of you old timers?
Thanks,
H
would killing the AC emitter give you the range with a PZ relay?
Thank you both for the advice.
I mangled my way through after reading your comments, and will give it another go in a couple of days.
Down the road maybe we can do some Spoilers for sequence of pickups and sequence of attack.
Thanks again,
H
well, what i did to conquer top:
1.
Spoiler
rushed some defense down in front of the uneven field, and kept 2 cannons on that tiny path to the right
2.
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went straight all the way to the right and put mortars to keep creeper from crossing tha wall up there, then mortars under the emiter to keep it from reaching 500depth
3.
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went to the 60amt emiter in the island and killed it for the bertha spot
4.
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guppied to the forge with bertha making everything easier.
5.
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put bertha target on lower island and went for breakfast while getting forge points
There is an easier way.
Spoiler
Start bottom right, ignore everything else.
Build loads of collectors, 2 sprayers and a few cannons to hold off creep until 3 Thors are built.
Build reactors and a few beams.
Take bottom island with 3 thors.
Use one thor and a hovering CN to bridge to centre island, in time the AC and creep emitters wil relay PZ north and south
Clean up
Thanks Mr. D,
Occam's razor done wins again, eh?
Another way of stating that, is the KISS principle: "Keep It Simple Sir".
I got all hung up in which pickups to make and in what order.
Using your technique, I had the bottom island almost cleared when I had to 'pause' to go out to dinner.
Getting back to the game later, I realized that I had cleared the entire bottom section in a little over 2 minutes.
I just knew I was going to beat your time - until I took a closer look.
Apparently, I did not hit the pause key before leaving and the game clock was sitting at 2:03:07 (and counting).
Starting over (with occasional saves), I cut my time to less than half of he prior score.
Great advice,
Thanks,
H
2 Minutes to clear the bottom section?? You can't build a Thor in that time, what's your secret?
Quote from: D0m0nik on January 12, 2022, 06:11:57 AM
2 Minutes to clear the bottom section?? You can't build a Thor in that time, what's your secret?
"Apparently, I did not hit the pause key before leaving and the game clock was sitting at 2:03:07 (and counting)."
My game time when I got back from dinner was 2
hours, 3 minutes, and 07 seconds.
In a couple more days, that might be funny...but not yet.
:-[
Ah got ya, room for improvement then ;)
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Anyone else see the picture of a two-headed horse with a saddle blanket and a saddle? :P
Quote from: Karsten75 on January 12, 2022, 12:57:47 PM
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Anyone else see the picture of a two-headed horse with a saddle blanket and a saddle? :P
a crab emerging from sand for me...
surgery on a giraffe chicken by a two headed ogre
Quote from: Riskbreaker on January 12, 2022, 05:52:26 PM
surgery on a giraffe chicken by a two headed ogre
I don't ever want to be the person that has to administer the Rorschach test for you...
Or, it's exactly who you may want to be! Interesting observations
I will always defer to Domonik, he's the master. But I did start with a series of pickups. I completed in just over 35 minutes, and I believe I could improve if I did it again.
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I started in the middle left with 2 collectors to pick up the guppy tech. Then immediately returned the CN to orbit. As soon as the CN was available again, I dropped it in the bottom left to get the berth tech and kill the spore tower. Then killed the CN again. After 30 more seconds I dropped the CN in the bottom right, and built two beams and got the Thor tech. The spore tower fired once, no damage. Then I killed the spore tower. Then I killed the CN once more, and in 30 seconds started building in the top left using the provided reactors. I got control of the middle island with berthas, guppies and a Thor. But I forgot for a while to take the weak emitter in the far right to get the PZ
Quote from: hawgwash on January 13, 2022, 07:44:41 PM
I will always defer to Domonik, he's the master. But I did start with a series of pickups. I completed in just over 35 minutes, and I believe I could improve if I did it again.
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I started in the middle left...
@HW -
I tried that exact technique and the best I could do was 26:07.
Using D0m's plan, I was able to shave almost two minutes off.
Could have done better but have never mastered the "Floating CN" trick. Kept losing connection (and time).
Excellent map though. Not often I'll completely play through a map three times in a row.
Fun stuff!
H