This topic is for discussion of map #3173: Particular
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=3173)
Author: GameGibu
Size: 192x126
Desc:
Skars and Lia respond to another sighting of the Particles, this time near the fossilized remains of a space monster which also fell to the creeper. #GameGibu #Particles #CRPL #dialogue #nodigitalis #norunners
I turtled... You don't have to though.
I hope you guys enjoy this map, it took me a long time to make it just right.
-GameGibu
Great job dude! I actually had to do restart this map at the beginning - I didn't expect it to be so challenging! There was a good bit of lag b/c of the happy bouncing balls o' creeper so I focused on killing those first to reduce lag. Probably could have been a good bit faster but it was definitely a fun challenge!
How do you destroy the particle emitters? I can't get any nullifers in.
Use beams to kill the particle emitters. ;)
Lots and lots and lots of beams. ;)
ok thanks!
Wish we could lock out those low-voting trolls... >:(
Unless they aren't trolls and instead you guys just don't like my maps. :'(
-GameGibu
maybe it's because they don't know how to destroy the emitters.
Yeah, keep in mind what Sorrontis told you about low scores. When people can't figure out a map, they give it a low score.
If only I could have done that on some of my Calculus tests I couldn't figure out! :P
Quote from: Johnny Haywire on February 16, 2016, 07:48:02 PM
...Alter Old...
Speaking of Alter Old, I'm wondering what his time on this map was.
-GameGibu
Ah, ok. Well kinda the same thing. One guy makes impossible maps, the other guy beats impossible maps. Heh heh.
Tried this last night and failed miserably so came back at it tonight with a new strategy and loved it. The first map with the new unit was good but the gameplay was not complex, this map kicks some butt though. Fantastic challenge that had me consistently challenged throughout, 10/10.
On the Alter Old comment though...
There seems to be a couple of comments lately having a bit of a swipe at Alter Old, specifically suggesting that he is selective about maps he posts scores on (the assumption being that he plays them all).
Forgive me if I have interpreted the comments incorrectly but this is not in the spirit of the CW forums, from my experience everyone here supports and encourages each other and congratulates each other on successes and offers help when people are stuck on a problem. For some of us scores are a competition but it is a fairly light hearted one and shouldn't become personal.
Alter Old posts scores that none of us can beat, personally I take that as a positive motivator and strive to improve and refine my gameplay and I applaud every preposterously good score, regardless of the pattern of posts.
Well said, Dom. There's no doubt Alter Old has superior skills. His videos are proof of that. Pity that some people are angered by people who are smarter than them rather than to learn & be inspired by them. Not that CW3 is necessarily something we should all strive for greatness in... just sayin' it's the same way in the real world. ;D
What I still don't understand is why so few people finished this map... It's not like I found it hard, just a bit slow at the beginning with lots of waiting for reactors to grow up.
But maybe it's those people with little patience who download my maps, realize they have to commit some time, and rate it 1 without doing a merit-based analysis.
It just takes the ratings out of my map.
-GameGibu
I have said this before but if you just want ratings then make PAC maps, almost guaranteed 8+ ratings. Ratings mean nothing, especially to the more experienced players.
With regards to this map (which was excellent btw) I suspect a lot of people did find it very hard. The solution is not obvious unless you have played the previous map and then the large gaps to creeper flooded shores that require bridging/crossing will be too much of a challenge for many.
Non-PAC maps that score well are usually maps that everyone can complete but are complex enough or have enough options that they present a fun challenge for the faster players to find faster ways through. New players want to finish maps and not feel rubbish, old players want to feel clever, like they have worked something out all by them selves!
Try not to get hung up on ratings though, they are not a true reflection on the quality of a map. Just look at Pastors maps, all excellent in my opinion and all rated terribly!
I once knew a professor who was constantly frustrated that his students struggled with his tests & assignments. To him, they seemed easy. I imagine the "average" player who just doesn't figure out things so easily - and that doesn't make them an inferior person - might not survive the first few minutes. You need beams to shoot spores, but they drain themselves shooting the little bouncy balls. Easy enough for some to see the solution, but not for others.
If it's ratings you want, make a PAC map. I haven't seen one in ages. And they almost always get high ratings unless it's really hard. Which yanno, I'm all for a challenge but the other 99% of the world... I dunno. ;)
Quote from: Johnny Haywire on February 18, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
If it's ratings you want, make a PAC map. I haven't seen one in ages. And they almost always get high ratings unless it's really hard. Which yanno, I'm all for a challenge but the other 99% of the world... I dunno. ;)
B,b,b, ...brother? ;)
Yeah, weird. I posted that at the same time you did and it said there was another post but I was like, "Meh, I don't need to see it." Maybe great minds think alike. Or maybe PAC maps are just that cool! 8)
Yeah I would love to see a new PAC. I was thinking of making another myself but they take soooooo long to test. On holiday in a week or so, may try one then :)
Could be an excellent map... Way too many balls which suck up processor calls. Less balls, more goo?
The Particles are what this map is mainly about.
New version of script and/or a new Particle map hopefully out by the end of next week.
-GameGibu
I could not get it done, i just dont have enough energy
Quote from: PMouser on February 19, 2016, 04:03:48 AM
I could not get it done, i just dont have enough energy
Well, this game
is about energy management.
I guess this map was harder than most of my other ones...
-GameGibu