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Title: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: AutoPost on January 24, 2016, 09:10:19 AM
This topic is for discussion of map #3096: Aleph2
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=3096)

Author: kalek
Size: 200x110

Desc:
The present map has been espAcially designed for Girls, Old Timer who spent nights and days on Kid Chamelon and, of course, clever people and Creeper World living Gods. All others will hate it. I am sure. But I understand and forgive you in advance. And, as a I am a cool Old Timer, I give you a clue : read carefully (I mean, like a litterature student) the opening text... I know, this is boring too and you have already start to hate it... By the way, thanks for the comments on my previous maps. Forum soon.
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: D0m0nik on January 24, 2016, 02:10:23 PM
Loved this one, the timed spores really made it.

Nicely done RrR, incredible time, I'm gonna have to have another look at this one  :)
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: D0m0nik on January 24, 2016, 04:44:57 PM
Had another look, and found half a trick

Spoiler
The ready to go nulifier is a decoy!
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Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: PMouser on January 25, 2016, 12:57:01 AM
i cant beat this do to the spore attack at the start
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: GameGibu on January 25, 2016, 01:00:54 AM
Villager 1: "What goes around comes around."

Villager 2: "Oh yeah? Well what comes around is usually a severely weakened form of what went around."

Villager 1: "Shut up..."

Villager 3: "Ladies, ladies, settle down. Have a spork."
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: RrR on January 25, 2016, 05:39:15 AM
Quote from: D0m0nik on January 24, 2016, 02:10:23 PM

Nicely done RrR, incredible time, I'm gonna have to have another look at this one  :)

Your time is not so bad either (though I am sure Alter Old would trounce it). I see you also worked out how to start without precipitating a disaster.
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: kalek on January 25, 2016, 03:20:21 PM
Thanks you all for playing (or trying to) this funny (I hope it is) tricky (perhaps unfair ?)  map. i saw that some *Creeper World Living Gods* already made astonishing time... Incredible !  For the others, *Creeper World Only Angels*, who try-try-try, who gave up or are about to, I want to give you the following clue :

Spoiler

Aleph 2 is an excellent french scifi novel about a kind of hyperspace or subspace allowing fast travel into space. Alephs are spots, in between space, of non-matter behaving like matter... so you can stand on those spots (as you could Stand on Zanzibar in early 70's). Yes ! You can be there, really ; even if you can't touch, see, feel them.
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Maybe this clue is clear as dark matter... Hope it helps.

Have fun.
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: D0m0nik on January 25, 2016, 04:41:26 PM
Quote from: RrR on January 25, 2016, 05:39:15 AM
Quote from: D0m0nik on January 24, 2016, 02:10:23 PM

Nicely done RrR, incredible time, I'm gonna have to have another look at this one  :)

Your time is not so bad either (though I am sure Alter Old would trounce it). I see you also worked out how to start without precipitating a disaster.

My time was 26 mins originally, you made me think a little harder!

And sure enough Alter has set a truly bonkers time!
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: PMouser on January 25, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
i dont understand, about getting out of the starting disaster
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: D0m0nik on January 26, 2016, 01:38:19 PM
Quote from: PMouser on January 25, 2016, 05:53:17 PM
i dont understand, about getting out of the starting disaster


Spoiler
Before you unpause destroy the nullifier, possibly take out one of the reactors to build a new nullifier. There are two spots below your landing zone that trigger the spores, hover an unbuilt nullifier over the area to work out where they are
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Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: GoodMorning on January 28, 2016, 01:54:18 AM
I have found the mechanical difficulty, but am stumped as to how to prevent the CN from being destroyed by Digitalis. If I can survive that, presumably the rest is possible.

The Invisible Man is a nice touch.

Probably, one day, I shall return, and find the way. Until then, I admit defeat, or a reasonable alternative.

However, this brings to mind the quote: "In defeat, malice. In victory, revenge!"
But until I can make a map as good as this, I can do no more.

Note: (No more: a phrase which here means, try repeated, futile, stratagems; until my tired, shriveled frame collapses into the uncaring void.)
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: RrR on January 28, 2016, 03:42:05 AM
Quote from: GoodMorning on January 28, 2016, 01:54:18 AM
I have found the mechanical difficulty, but am stumped as to how to prevent the CN from being destroyed by Digitalis. If I can survive that, presumably the rest is possible.


If you place the CN as far left as possible, it won't be on the digitalis. Eventually the platform will flood with creeper (unless you work very fast)
Spoiler
keep moving your CN to stop it being returned to orbit.
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Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: GoodMorning on February 09, 2016, 04:37:30 AM
Been there, tried that. As I said, may return someday.
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: Johnny Haywire on February 14, 2016, 01:37:07 AM
Wow, great map! It makes ya kinda explore and try to figure out what's there and what's not there. I totally laughed apple juice out my nose thanks to that initial spore "surprise".  :o  And I didn't take much more than an hour longer than Alter Old and Dom so... yeah, rock on.

Spoiler
1) Save the game often as you experiment with different stuff
2) There's hidden terrain all over the map. Go find it.
3) If you focus on taking out the 25-spore spore towers then as long as you take them out, you'll live.
4) Cool stuff happens about 45 minutes into the game.
5) Hover with your CN when you have to. Runners can't hit a flying CN, and your CN regenerates health while flying.
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Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: GoodMorning on April 11, 2016, 08:05:54 AM
I returned, older and somewhat wiser...

That said, the
Spoiler
hidden terrain
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was... interesting.

Once you know it's there, hitting G can help.

The fact that it exists gives me insight into how everyone got the times they did.

That's probably the longest 3/4 hour game I have played. (thought-hours: probably 4-5+)
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: kalek on April 16, 2016, 02:20:42 PM
Quote from: GoodMorning on April 11, 2016, 08:05:54 AM
I returned, older and somewhat wiser...

That said, the
Spoiler
hidden terrain
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was... interesting.

Once you know it's there, hitting G can help.

The fact that it exists gives me insight into how everyone got the times they did.

That's probably the longest 3/4 hour game I have played. (thought-hours: probably 4-5+)

I think the openning dialogue gives  helpful clues  ::)

Thanks for playing this one.
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: GoodMorning on April 16, 2016, 09:38:09 PM
The dialogue helps, but there's only really one clue there, is far as I could see. (The trap.)

The beneficial surprise isn't clear until you know it's there, or have beaten off the Creeper long enough for the AC Emitters to activate.

That said, good map. I did spend far too much time CN-shifting, but I realise it was necessary for the power-balance.
Title: Re: Custom Map #3096: Aleph2. By: kalek
Post by: yum-forum on May 12, 2016, 01:06:33 PM
WOW! Nice map, but moving moving ... moving CN is crazy!
And also trying to find hidden terrain similar with trying to find place for collectors in Your last maps...
Not enjoyable. Sorry!

All another in this map - very fine!  :)