This topic is for discussion of map #3054: Mass Driver
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=3054)
Author: Rhadamante
Size: 128x128
Desc:
Originally made for the wrath of gods achievement.
Achievement maps aren't allowed in CS.
Yeah but you have to actually do something to win - and unlike many people's maps that come across as being a challenge when in reality they are simple "kill-the-inhibitor-and-win-in-less-than-2-minutes" maps... this one doesn't claim to be anything it's not. I'd much rather a map be honest than deceitful.
This map is a "who-can-win-the-fastest" map. And although I don't claim to be a prophet, I'm going to guess Alter Old will post 1:10 or less, since I hit 1:24 pretty easily on my second try. Won't be surprised if he figures out a way to do it under 1m.
So think of this as more of a puzzle map than a regular map.
Quote from: Johnny Haywire on January 18, 2016, 10:27:39 AM
Yeah but you have to actually do something to win - and unlike many people's maps that come across as being a challenge when in reality they are simple "kill-the-inhibitor-and-win-in-less-than-2-minutes" maps... this one doesn't claim to be anything it's not. I'd much rather a map be honest than deceitful.
This map is a "who-can-win-the-fastest" map. And although I don't claim to be a prophet, I'm going to guess Alter Old will post 1:10 or less, since I hit 1:24 pretty easily on my second try. Won't be surprised if he figures out a way to do it under 1m.
So think of this as more of a puzzle map than a regular map.
achievement maps
AND insta-win maps are not permitted in CS... ;)
This is not, IMNSHO, an achievement map, even if OP said it was "originally" intended as such, the wording lead me to believe it has been modified. And it presents a challenge.
Yeah, pretty much what I was thinking... a bit different than maps like this one...
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=19991
:-X
*Refraining from comments which would compare IQ's with imaginary numbers and shoe sizes*
First I thought, it fell prey to the "make it challenging by cranking the creeper up to 2000" paradigm. There are more interesting ways to make a map challenging. But it's not an instant-win achievement map, and at the same time not one that requires a slog through piles of creeper. So, I would hesitate to report it. It is easy once you figure out the right tactics, but that can be said about many of the best maps.
I would simply recommend the author go for a better description next time.
First of all, sorry for the late explanation/possible necro-posting, as, as the fool I am, I just discovered that little 'forum' button in CS.
As you may have guessed, I'm the creator of the map and I had no idea achievements map weren't allowed.
With that being said, although that map would give you the Wrath of God achievement (the reason I started the project), if I decided to upload it, it's because I thought playing with the Mass AoO was funny. We don't get enough in regular maps to experiment so I just created one with that in mind. Basically, a "use the AoO in the right way to win quickly or get overrun" kind of map.
I don't know if I missed the uploading rules or if I overlooked them, but I'll keep them in mind if I ever upload another map in the future.
It's all fine and your map (as well as future maps) is welcome.