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Title: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: AutoPost on March 21, 2013, 05:01:05 AM
This topic is for discussion of map #2099: Reign of Fire (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2099)
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/thumb.php?id=2099) (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2099)

Author: Bongo (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?author=Bongo)

Desc:
A remake of Angel's Rain of Fire (#1725). Compare and discuss which one you like better (or hate less).
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: MisterX on March 21, 2013, 08:53:45 AM
Very nice map I enjoyed it, Nice touch with the crystals, use them If you need them but reduces score.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: Helper on March 21, 2013, 09:15:07 AM
This is much more enjoyable to play. Fun, functional, and lots of options for how you want to play it.
Nicely done.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: Angel on March 21, 2013, 11:13:35 PM
Not really like my map, i can see where it resembles, like the LB location and the beginning, few others places. But I really liked it. Great map, glad i inspired a map. :)

Edit: Now that i looked at the entire overview of the map, i see that it looks exactly like mine, except for fields, strength of things, path size increased, but it is my map now that i look at it. Thanks for a great map! :)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: Bongo on March 22, 2013, 09:04:50 AM
I almost laughed when I noticed that Angel redid his own map the same week that I redid it. I usually download about 100 maps at once and I only noticed it AFTER my version was posted.

Angel's old #1725, http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=1725 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=1725)
Angel's new#2074, http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2074 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2074)
My Version #2099, http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2099 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2099)

I was just making a proof of concept about how just a few changes can make a map a huge success or a miserable failure. I like Angel's maps because they are hard (sometimes evil) but I can see how most players would not appreciate that challenge.

The original map had:

1. Black Creeper/Anti-Creeper/Background. WAY too hard for most newbies to handle.
2. Corridors that are too narrow and unforgiving of mistakes.
3. Limited Energy from only one build direction.
4. Tedious and repetitive right side (at the end).

Ironically, Angel's new version addressed 1,3, and 4, and is vastly more popular. With the extra energy, and visible Creeper I was even able to clear out the top and start the lower right side at the same time (saving 6 minutes off the top score).

The one thing I really loved about the original was the 'cheat Gems'. A player can play it once for score, then use the cheat gems to play the map for fun/best time. It's two maps for the price of one. Also new/young/inexperienced/casual players can use those gems to make the map easier.

To Angel:
Keep up the insane hard maps. :) But I also, think using score lowering Cheat Gems might be one solution to your unpopular maps. (And not putting things in your maps that one has to open the editor to figure out.)

P.S. Note the scores for all three maps :P
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: Angel on March 22, 2013, 06:37:41 PM
You know bongo, that is actually a very good idea! Thanks man :)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: burguertime on March 22, 2013, 09:17:25 PM
Yay for derivative works!
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: MadMurphy on March 24, 2013, 05:23:56 PM
This map was interesting. I played it a few times trying to get the high score but the right side of the map gave me some trouble.

I recorded my last play through. This may help some people improve their score.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeZ224PJHKY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeZ224PJHKY)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: Angel on March 24, 2013, 06:31:33 PM
Watched the walkthrough even though i all ready beat it. Good job on the map man.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: MadMurphy on March 24, 2013, 07:44:57 PM
I wonder how many people can get their times below 20 minutes.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2099: Reign of Fire
Post by: Angel on March 25, 2013, 01:04:47 AM
Quote from: MadMurphy on March 24, 2013, 07:44:57 PM
I wonder how many people can get their times below 20 minutes.
10 :P