Custom Map #8813: 62x62. By: TrickyCorp small levels

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Author: TrickyCorp small levels
Size: 62x62

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If you find the solution in this level, it is a short level. If not, it will for sure take longer. Good luck and Have fun!

Johnny Haywire

I think the solution might actually take more real-time than just watching stuff for a while. I wanted to see how this played out, so I waited to land until after the inevitable happened and then with a just couple PZ mortars things were fast & easy. Didn't even build a forge, which is sad. I love forges.  :-[

Cool map though! Love yer stuff, Tricky!  ;)

Thanks for the map!  ;D
You disagree with this sentence, don't you?

TrickyPlayer

Quote from: Johnny Haywire on August 24, 2020, 10:51:25 PM
I think the solution might actually take more real-time than just watching stuff for a while. I wanted to see how this played out, so I waited to land until after the inevitable happened and then with a just couple PZ mortars things were fast & easy. Didn't even build a forge, which is sad. I love forges.  :-[

Cool map though! Love yer stuff, Tricky!  ;)

Thanks for the map!  ;D

Thanks, I really needed some positive feedback after all these days of not seeing any reactions saying 'oh cool level'.  :) ;)
When you want an explanation for something I use in my levels, or if you want to suggest something, feel free to tell me. Just don't ask/suggest things every other day please :P

Ehekatl

oh cool level

Pretty clever, really. I don't remember being required to use this strat in any of the other maps I've played so far.

hypnotic22

i don't know if i did find the solution but is it not using the AC?  nice map was fun to play. i did not optimize my strategy but ill be surprised if some one get a much better time.  6/10

TrickyPlayer

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Quote from: hypnotic22 on August 25, 2020, 10:11:01 PM
i don't know if i did find the solution but is it not using the AC?  nice map was fun to play. i did not optimize my strategy but ill be surprised if some one get a much better time.  6/10

Just how did you get 3 minutes, I just don't see how that would be possible on this level. That would mean countering the creeper production from the inhibitors on one side (or at least a corner) and placing a nullifier at around 2 minutes, as the walls won't break down that fast. Placing a nullifier at 2 minutes means you need to have more power than the inhibitors on a side at least 15 seconds before that. How could you get the energy to build such defences after a maximal of 90 seconds? (Again, building the defences will take some time as well, let's say 15 seconds)

In short, explain how you got the score. I will have to send this to suspicious scores if nobody can explain that time. Same goes for the other person who got 3 minutes.

You can take this as a compliment if you got that time with clever tactics.
When you want an explanation for something I use in my levels, or if you want to suggest something, feel free to tell me. Just don't ask/suggest things every other day please :P

hypnotic22

i understand, there are some who cheat, i dont know if Wei is cheating, we have to wait for a replay.

i can post screenshot or we can use the stream on knuckle cracker discord and even a private call if you dare.

cheaters in games are everywhere we gotta catch em all.

TrickyPlayer

Quote from: hypnotic22 on August 26, 2020, 07:59:01 AM
i understand, there are some who cheat, i dont know if Wei is cheating, we have to wait for a replay.

i can post screenshot or we can use the stream on knuckle cracker discord and even a private call if you dare.

cheaters in games are everywhere we gotta catch em all.

A screenshot would not prove anything at all, and a private call would still not provide valid information (you could be lying for all I know). Only something like a video or recording would be good enough, because that's something you can't trick people with (the whole level is always visible, so whether something is possible can always be checked. However, that also means people could copy your strategies, because that's what I need to be able to do to find out you didn't cheat.)

I will trust you though, that post has given me some information that (using deduction and other information.) makes it more than 90% sure you didn't cheat. Also, this is getting off-topic so I will stop going on about it. If you decide to react to this I will probably not react to your reaction.

When you want an explanation for something I use in my levels, or if you want to suggest something, feel free to tell me. Just don't ask/suggest things every other day please :P

hypnotic22

holy roman empire !! i got sub 3 mins. Wei had a better time then me so i upped my game and fund a new strategy. i am not kidding when i say that nullify got built at the edge of creeper.

Oblits

#9
Posting how to get sub 3 minutes:


Spoiler

This is not the solution.


  • Nullify center
  • Build reactors on PZ
  • Build defences to overcome inhibitors
  • Place final nullifier around 2:10
[close]

hypnotic22

hey Wei, nice done ! i got the time to 2:47.1

i guess the cat is out of the bag on how to do it, fun to see if more go for a sub 3 min after that video.

Johnny Haywire

I firmly believe that nullifying a friendly AC emitter is like killing a good friend. Or a baby seal. Or a lawyer. Or some other kind of innocent creature.

Although I've had to do it, I usually log onto some charitable website and donate some $$ to make up for my evil deed.

I can't believe you guys nullify AC emitters as if you're just ordering french fries. Oh the humanity!  :'( :'(

Nice strategy though and grats on the fast time!  ;)
You disagree with this sentence, don't you?

TrickyPlayer

Quote from: Johnny Haywire on September 05, 2020, 07:54:17 PM
I firmly believe that nullifying a friendly AC emitter is like killing a good friend. Or a baby seal. Or a lawyer. Or some other kind of innocent creature.

Although I've had to do it, I usually log onto some charitable website and donate some $$ to make up for my evil deed.

I can't believe you guys nullify AC emitters as if you're just ordering french fries. Oh the humanity!  :'( :'(

Nice strategy though and grats on the fast time!  ;)

The intended way to play is keeping the central AC emitters alive, and using shields to get rid of the (unwanted) walls. It seems people don't care about my plans though, as the top clearly used their own strategies.
When you want an explanation for something I use in my levels, or if you want to suggest something, feel free to tell me. Just don't ask/suggest things every other day please :P

Oblits

wow nice hypnotic22!!

I adjusted my strategy and got 2:43.4   

I wonder what strategy can get a much faster time...

hypnotic22

Quote from: Oblits on September 06, 2020, 11:02:09 PM
wow nice hypnotic22!!

I adjusted my strategy and got 2:43.4   

I wonder what strategy can get a much faster time...

gz and gj, have to tap out for now but i might return.