Creeper World 3 Suggestions Initiative

Michionlion · August 30, 2012, 08:17:28 AM

Quote from: tornado on August 30, 2012, 02:13:07 AM
my previous idea of 2 sided creeper is posible
if creeper is + and anti creeper is- then could you have my creper as *.
imean it makes sencse right

no... creeper is on the positive side, anticreeper is on the negative side.

It doesn't have just different 'signs'...

lurkily · August 30, 2012, 09:28:49 AM

Quote from: tornado on August 30, 2012, 02:13:07 AM
my previous idea of 2 sided creeper is posible
if creeper is + and anti creeper is- then could you have my creper as *.
imean it makes sencse right

The reason + and - is relevant is because the AC and creeper are the same thing in the code. AC is just a negative value of creeper. There isn't a third value in negative and positive.

The reason this is doable, but difficult, is because it requires each kind of creeper to be initiated as a separate value, rather than positive and negative of a single value.

Think of it this way. When the glass is half full, it's creeper. When it's half empty, it's AC. In order to have a third type, you need to put it in three cups and recode how they interact.

tornado · August 30, 2012, 10:44:03 AM

ther is a third value in the positive and negative values,the point in the mile

thepenguin · August 30, 2012, 11:48:29 AM

Quote from: tornado on August 30, 2012, 10:44:03 AM
ther is a third value in the positive and negative values,the point in the mile

zero, seriously? unless you want to go into imaginary numbers...

hoodwink · August 30, 2012, 01:14:10 PM

I think going into i values is going too far. We should stick with creeper and anticreeper for now.

lurkily · August 30, 2012, 02:44:55 PM

To elaborate, c and ac need a meaningful value to function. Right now it's anywhere from 1 (or -1) to 2 billion. (Or -2billion.) Zero can't be used as a basis for a creeper type because it would be produced everywhere c and ac touch, and a number that can only ever be a single value is meaningless in this context.

Edit: not to mention the entire map that didn't have c or ac on it would be totally flooded with it.

tornado · August 31, 2012, 12:53:56 AM

don't explain,
i no about i.
and no just zero.

it makes perfect sense,
to someone with aspergers syndrome.

tornado · August 31, 2012, 01:41:14 AM

oh yeah and my mum threw in the idea of getting bits of weapons and having tho assemble them

TrickyDragon · August 31, 2012, 08:41:53 AM

that could be interesting for the titan class only.... because they are so big....

allu · September 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM

New feature suggestion: Growing emitters.

Simply it means that you could set 2 new values for emitters in editor. These 2 would be:
1)Increase in strength. It would simply determine how much emitters strength would increase.
2)Interval between strenght increases. It would determine how often emitters strenght would increase.

Almost same can be done with multiple emitters, but for example emitter thats strength would slowly increase trought entire game would take 100 emitters needed( or more). I think it would make things easier and possibly open new things to be done aswell. I'd like to hear what you have to say about this.

hoodwink · September 01, 2012, 01:43:44 PM

Quote from: allu on September 01, 2012, 01:35:10 PM
New feature suggestion: Growing emitters.

Simply it means that you could set 2 new values for emitters in editor. These 2 would be:
1)Increase in strength. It would simply determine how much emitters strength would increase.
2)Interval between strenght increases. It would determine how often emitters strenght would increase.

Almost same can be done with multiple emitters, but for example emitter thats strength would slowly increase trought entire game would take 100 emitters needed( or more). I think it would make things easier and possibly open new things to be done aswell. I'd like to hear what you have to say about this.

Does this therefore mean that an emitter could be made to decrease in strength over time? As to start off incredibly powerful and pretty much stop when the player gets to it...

allu · September 01, 2012, 01:47:09 PM

Could be done. Btw it seems this was suggested already.

cooltv27 · September 01, 2012, 02:30:00 PM

tornado
there is a 3rd creeper type
its value is 0
its every where there is not c or ac
it cant hurt c or ac
its NOTHING!
it made no sense to me how there could be a creeper with a value of 0, it just wouldnt work
I assume there is a hard/complex way to manage it (creeper = a, ac = b, new one = c ect) but I know next to nothing about coding

lurkily · September 01, 2012, 02:35:56 PM

Quote from: cooltv27 on September 01, 2012, 02:30:00 PM
tornado
there is a 3rd creeper type
its value is 0
its every where there is not c or ac
it cant hurt c or ac
its NOTHING!
it made no sense to me how there could be a creeper with a value of 0, it just wouldnt work
I assume there is a hard/complex way to manage it (creeper = a, ac = b, new one = c ect) but I know next to nothing about coding

I think we've already closed this discussion, including many of the same points, but thank you for your eloquent summary.

teknotiss · September 01, 2012, 04:32:48 PM

having the ability to increase the number of available weapons through tech pickups would be cool.
so if you only get "x" blasters to start you could have "parts" for "y" more set as values in the tech items.
also forward energy stores would be cool, so you can set up situation where the player can leave a defence running for a while, whilst the LS runs away to set up elsewhere. also would be good for large maps where events breakup power flows