Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Conic Sections - closing 14 Jul 2013

Started by asmussen, July 08, 2013, 03:44:08 PM

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deety42

There are several strategies for dealing with drones.   I'm not sure if you're talking about the first set of drones or the big breakout.  For drones early on, some strategies are:
- evasion:  Wait till a bunch come after the mother ship, then start moving away.  Moving on diagonals in a diamond pattern can work indefinitely
- blasters:  grab gems quickly and build the minimal number of blasters to take care of the drones.  Often you need to do some evasion while the blasters are building
- anti-creep: in some situations, getting a large field of anti-creep between the drones and the mother ship will kill off the drones.

When there's a huge breakout as in this week's tournament and I haven't built enough blasters to deal with it, I often set things up so there are shields in their path to run into...like a block of four or five of them in a row. 

Hope that helps.

Wheatmidge

Quote from: Marley on July 11, 2013, 10:32:59 AM
Quote from: Wheatmidge on July 10, 2013, 12:42:28 AM
I used a different strategy. I grabbed all the gems on the left and then flew through the stream and capped the top emitter and gateway before building any weapons (except one repulsor).

Ok, dumb newbie question.  What did you do about all those drones?  If there's a "Run away" strategy I haven't figured it out yet.  And how do you keep them from taking out the nullifier?

for mine I was using the "drone evasion" technique. you don't build any buildings until all the drones have targeted the LS and then you move around to clump the drones together and then run away in a diamond pattern. once the drones have targetted the LS they won't target anything else so you can build freely without having to worry about the drones destroying any buildings. It is quite intensive to play this way though since the LS has to continue moving indifinitely until you kill the drones. There are a few other discussions about the drone evasion technique on the forum and someone (sorry I can't remember who) actually made a Custom map that is a tutorial to doing it.

Marley

Quote from: deety42 on July 11, 2013, 10:42:30 AM
- evasion:  Wait till a bunch come after the mother ship, then start moving away.  Moving on diagonals in a diamond pattern can work indefinitely

Quote from: Wheatmidge on July 11, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
for mine I was using the "drone evasion" technique. you don't build any buildings until all the drones have targeted the LS and then you move around to clump the drones together and then run away in a diamond pattern. once the drones have targetted the LS they won't target anything else so you can build freely without having to worry about the drones destroying any buildings. It is quite intensive to play this way though since the LS has to continue moving indifinitely until you kill the drones. There are a few other discussions about the drone evasion technique on the forum and someone (sorry I can't remember who) actually made a Custom map that is a tutorial to doing it.

Yep, that's exactly what I was asking... sorry, should have been more clear.  (I was looking at Wheatmidge's photo with the clump of drones chasing the LS.)  I have played a few maps where evasion was necessary, and somehow got through them, but never got any good at it.  Probably never tried a diamond pattern.  Very cool, I'll have to practice.  Thanks!

Kithros

Quote from: Marley on July 11, 2013, 10:32:59 AM
Quote from: Wheatmidge on July 10, 2013, 12:42:28 AM
I used a different strategy. I grabbed all the gems on the left and then flew through the stream and capped the top emitter and gateway before building any weapons (except one repulsor).

Ok, dumb newbie question.  What did you do about all those drones?  If there's a "Run away" strategy I haven't figured it out yet.  And how do you keep them from taking out the nullifier?

He has all of the drones chasing the LS, and constantly moves the LS around in circles to prevent them from hitting the LS.

Gateways have a limit to how many drones they can send out, so if you build no buildings for enough time, you can get all of the drones to chase the LS and the gateway won't be spawning any more drones. The LS moves at the same speed as the drones so it is possible to evade them indefinitely.

EDIT: Oops, didn't see that it was already answered on the 2nd page of thread.

Marley

Quote from: Kithros on July 12, 2013, 12:47:24 AM
EDIT: Oops, didn't see that it was already answered on the 2nd page of thread.

There's no such thing as too many answers.    ;D  Thanks!

ea3401

Quote from: Wheatmidge on July 11, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
... someone (sorry I can't remember who) actually made a Custom map that is a tutorial to doing it.

Map 2320  :)

MizInIA

Parabola I thought was hard to get started but went well after the second wave of Drones was defeated. I used the shield approach and they still got a couple of my blasters. It was Circle I had problems with. I just couldn't push the creeper back very fast. it took me forever to get that last emitter. if I rerun it I won't try to clean up the creeper inside the field but instead focus even my Launchers at the emitter.

deety42

Thanks!  I never realized that there were a finite number of drones from a gateway.  That's super helpful.  And thanks for the map number, ea.  I've searched for it but never managed to find it. 

Wheatmidge

Quote from: ea3401 on July 12, 2013, 03:51:31 AM
Quote from: Wheatmidge on July 11, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
... someone (sorry I can't remember who) actually made a Custom map that is a tutorial to doing it.

Map 2320  :)

So EA made the map.  :) Sorry I couldn't remember

Marley

Well, that was a learning experience.   ;)  Thanks for all the drone juggling pointers everyone, I think I'm starting to get the hang of it.

asmussen

Final standings. Dt42 is up for the next tourney.

Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
RankNameLineHyperbolaElipseParabolaCircleTotal ScoreTotal Time
1asmussen1211711583126141071283615538764:43
2dt421204011700126051053183885526463:58
3Marley120991128812212978381325351482:41
4DougB118141130912417993878405331882:59
5MizInIA1170410450119939439480348389221:41
6mopa421208511858126841046847095
7Atomicfrog121111176612831934346051
8Wheatmidge118351300011294963845767
9inept_celt119281077212155637541230
10Anarchy Ape11668987512036585939438
11ctuna12175117801278536740
12sept197311941103771187134189
13Martin120161261324629
14ea3401120141146723481
15RockyRaccoon118741033422208
16Elipse1205512055
17Line1180311803
18Ultraexactzz1150311503
19Hyperbola1097810978
20theo1070110701
Scores recorded at 2013-07-15 00:34:53 forum time.
Shawn Asmussen

deety42

Yikes! Okay, I'll try to post by this afternoon.  Thanks.