There are lot of new map authors that upload 5-10 new maps in a day. Usually this means that the quality of maps is really low.
If the uploading was limited to one or two maps in a day, maybe this would force authors to put more thought in the maps and play them couple of times to find errors before uploading.
This is probably a really good idea. I see a large number of maps coming through that has little or no merit IMHO.
Agreed. One per day should be fine. If you spread them they will get more attention anyway.
I don't understand people uploading so many crappy maps. I'm testing a few maps for weeks now and wouldn't upload them before they are 'perfect'. It's quality not quantity that counts.
I totally agree, there are some map makers that really start to irritate me.
It's like they haven't even played their maps once before uploading them.
This brings up another point. Maybe Virgil could add the map evaluations to come up with a rating for map makers. Then display the map maker's star rating as well as their map star rating?
Quote from: Karsten75 on March 29, 2010, 02:58:18 PM
This brings up another point. Maybe Virgil could add the map evaluations to come up with a rating for map makers. Then display the map maker's star rating as well as their map star rating?
Ratings are never a good solution, you've got a lot of people who give a map 1 star just because they can't beat it, that won't be different for map maker ratings.
I'd say rank it on downloads but that won't work either as some bad (and even impossible maps) get downloaded a lot of times because everyone wants to know why those maps are bad or impossible.
This wouldnt work well i think .
If 100 member made 1 bad map every day ,
there still is 100 map every day .
And if there is 1 player that uploade 5 good/okey maps one/every day ,
those maps wouldnt get out for an long time if the limit is set at 1 or 2 maps pr day .
But i agree it sucks that good maps get "lost" because so many maps gets uploaded so fast ,
Thats why i asked about more random maps in the top ,
in this thread :
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=922.0
One person will never make 5 good maps a day, as a good map will take at least a full day to develop and test.
People who post so many maps should really question themselves if these maps are worth publishing. Maps with slight alterations are completely uninteresting for me (unless it's an important update, which isn't a good sign either). Decide what your map is about and decide what needs to be done. And TEST IT thoroughly!
LOL, SPIFFEN is one of those that would be impacted by the 1-map-a-day rule! :)
Many of his maps are variations on a theme. I don't know how they are received by the players, so I can't venture an opinion on whether, for instance, it would serve the community to limit his maps.
Many of the new map makers can probably get good feedback if they are allowed only 1 map a day.
Quote from: UpperKEES on March 30, 2010, 12:17:02 PM
Decide what your map is about and decide what needs to be done. And TEST IT thoroughly!
I always do that! :D
Yes i think that it should be one a day. However people might use different names to upload with.
Maybe make us make an account? Or use our forum account. Make more people join the forums.
What's wrong with people uploading multiple maps a day? SPIFFEN for example posts multiple maps a day and his maps aren't crap.
And if I can choose between 10 bad maps in one day or one bad map every day for 10 days I'd pick the first option.
Five? Just something to limit the amount posted.
He he , many of my maps sucks ,
but i hope they inspire others to make better maps .
So bad maps can make someone else to make good maps ,
then the bad maps might not be so bad afterall =P
And there might be someone who works with an serie of 5 maps ,
that might get posted all at once .
I think most of my maps should give an nice play for most players ,
but they might suck for the players that are super advanced .
And thx to you Sqaz , for not thinking that my maps are crap =) .
Assemble a team of people who can check maps for decent content... Better yet have something like this:
List of Unapproved Maps that have been uploaded. People who have access to this page can click on a map.
It will give them the map's name, desc, and a screenie(or does virgil do this manually?)
If not, the approving player can upload a sceenshot of the map (you can do so with the map editor)
If so, then disregard the message above.
Then a player plays the map, ensures it is beatable, playable, etc.
Player approves it and it is moved to the main page.
Player rejects it and the user gets a mail about it(if they put an email on the signup thing)
Also the player would be able to change the description(but only to delete bad stuff, such as curses), they can change the difficulty(lots of people put EXPERT ONLY on easy stuff), they can also upload a new map(just in case there is a small bugfix to the map, any changes to this the player should report in the description)
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Are you suggesting that normal player should approve or reject the maps?
That'll never work, a lot of maps are very hard, so it's possible the player can't beat them and reject them but the maps are still possible.
And also difficulty is relative, what for someone easy might be hard for a new player, so changing difficulties, especially with players approving maps wouldn't work.
No, people selected by Virgil. He'll of course select people who are experts. (like me ;D)
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Oh, I think Karsten is doing his job with great dedication at the moment, but I can imagine it can become too much work for one person when people upload many crappy or unbeatable maps. That's why I'm glad Virgil and he have set up the system that allows a score to be submitted in advance by the map maker. Let's give it some time to see how it works out. I have a good feeling about it.
So this 1 map a day is already in use i guess =P
How about 1 map a day for map without score ,
and 2 for maps with score + faster accept ?
I think maps that have an score should get an benefit for it .
Maybe you are only victim of the "if there are too much maps at once, then we will wait to upload, so they are not tossed on page two too fast". When I uploaded my map (yesterday?) I saw 20 maps or so in the list. So I played my map a second time to upload its scores. Maybe that just raised its upload-priority ;)