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Creeper World 2 => Code Mission Discussion => Topic started by: warutel on June 19, 2011, 03:44:12 PM

Title: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 19, 2011, 03:44:12 PM
Has anyone managed to beat the secret level??

I found the level today but I can't finish it... I can handle the first 5 minutes or so, then it is just impossible, the creeper density of the rain keeps increasing. Do we have to beat the level quickly enough so that it does not get too strong or something? :-\

My strategy is to hide the LS just in the near cave and hold on the rain with shields, then use more shields to hold on the creeper coming from the down and start digging around. But no matter what I do, after ~5 minutes the rain is insane. I think I also saw rain "drops" appearing INSIDE my cave, what is up with that??!

SPOILER!!, I uploaded a video of my strategy (well a bad attempt, the computer was slowed down because of the video). Do not look if you didn't find the level yet!
Spoiler
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DSvCri_fo5A
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Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: thepenguin on June 19, 2011, 04:08:37 PM
code for the map?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: xing on June 19, 2011, 04:33:04 PM
I don't know what you did there - I get the exact same map layout and NO RAIN just the ground emitters
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 19, 2011, 04:40:52 PM
Quote from: xing on June 19, 2011, 04:33:04 PM
I don't know what you did there - I get the exact same map layout and NO RAIN just the ground emitters

Mmm... ?

Oh I see, if you access the map using its name as the code you get the layout lol :D I didn't try that, nice find.

Mmm, so no one saw this level before? Not even the betas ???
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Ranakastrasz on June 19, 2011, 04:45:59 PM
I found the level too, But I Tried all of the settings, and no rain. Looking at it, it looks like creeper on the bottom is wrapping to the top, though It is hard to tell due to you not scrolling to the bottom, perhaps your version is buggy?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Kamron3 on June 19, 2011, 04:46:18 PM
Quote from: warutel on June 19, 2011, 04:40:52 PM
Quote from: xing on June 19, 2011, 04:33:04 PM
I don't know what you did there - I get the exact same map layout and NO RAIN just the ground emitters

Mmm... ?

Oh I see, if you access the map using its name as the code you get the layout lol :D I didn't try that, nice find.

Mmm, so no one saw this level before? Not even the betas ???

Did you somehow get a leak of the Map Editor? If not, how do you access this "Secret" map.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Ebon Heart on June 19, 2011, 05:15:39 PM
If it was made with the map editor... A: nice level. B: how did you get the map editor??
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 19, 2011, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: Ebon_Heart on June 19, 2011, 05:15:39 PM
If it was made with the map editor... A: nice level. B: how did you get the map editor??

I didn't use "the map editor", is the map editor available for betas then? But yeah it is a nice level indeed, it keeps getting harder the more time passes.

I just used the link/button given in one of the bonus mission.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: thepenguin on June 19, 2011, 05:49:05 PM
Quote from: warutel on June 19, 2011, 05:39:20 PM
Quote from: Ebon_Heart on June 19, 2011, 05:15:39 PM
If it was made with the map editor... A: nice level. B: how did you get the map editor??

I didn't use "the map editor", is the map editor available for betas then? But yeah it is a nice level indeed, it keeps getting harder the more time passes.

I just used the link/button given in one of the bonus mission.

which bonus mission?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Kamron3 on June 19, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
warutel stop dancing around and tell us exactly where this "hidden mission" is, give us screen shots and point exactly to it.

Virgil never told us about a "secret mission."

You are either:

1) Lying about the fact you have a stolen copy of the map editor
2) or are a beta member trolling the rest of us.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Ebon Heart on June 19, 2011, 08:42:37 PM
Alright, something's going on here. That account, "warutel" Seems to have been made JUST for this post... and the youtube account you posted from is brand new, made today just for that video. Tell us the truth, how'd you come across that level?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: burguertime on June 19, 2011, 10:03:30 PM
The map is indeed man-made, the field effects of the "rain" is unmistakeable.

It should be a moving field that drops creeper moving left and right.

My bet is (assuming he did not grab a copy of the map editor);

He used the code maps to get "secret raining level" map layout, and then edited some info using a hex editor to get the rain effect.

If that's so, congrats on making the first user level of CW2. If not, banhammer.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Ebon Heart on June 19, 2011, 11:38:59 PM
Quote from: burguertime on June 19, 2011, 10:03:30 PM
The map is indeed man-made, the field effects of the "rain" is unmistakeable.

It should be a moving field that drops creeper moving left and right.

My bet is (assuming he did not grab a copy of the map editor);

He used the code maps to get "secret raining level" map layout, and then edited some info using a hex editor to get the rain effect.

If that's so, congrats on making the first user level of CW2. If not, banhammer.
I think the bigger question is, if it IS the map editor... how'd he get it?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:37:12 AM
Quote from: burguertime on June 19, 2011, 10:03:30 PMThe map is indeed man-made, the field effects of the "rain" is unmistakeable.

There are no fields in the upper part of the map (where the rain is). I forgot to turn on the Show Fields option in the video, sorry.

(but you are the closest one to the answer ;) )
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:42:59 AM
Quote from: Kamron3 on June 19, 2011, 05:54:27 PM
warutel stop dancing around and tell us exactly where this "hidden mission" is, give us screen shots and point exactly to it.

Virgil never told us about a "secret mission."

You are either:

1) Lying about the fact you have a stolen copy of the map editor
2) or are a beta member trolling the rest of us.

It is true that I don't have access to the map editor.

I'm not a beta member either.

There is only one lie in all what I said in this thread, though.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Fisherck on June 20, 2011, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:42:59 AM
It is true that I don't have access to the map editor.

I'm not a beta member either.

There is only one lie in all what I said in this thread, though.

And what may that lie be. :)

Quote from: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:37:12 AM
There are no fields in the upper part of the map (where the rain is). I forgot to turn on the Show Fields option in the video, sorry.

(but you are the closest one to the answer ;) )

Fields are the only way to do this. Could you explain? This is fairly advanced field work.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Ranakastrasz on June 20, 2011, 11:13:48 AM
Perhaps a Teleport field at the bottom of the map that teleports creeper to the top?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
wow, you hand-edited the creeper array with a memory editor? ;)
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: crazyone76 on June 20, 2011, 11:17:32 AM
maybe virgill is trolling us?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:18:13 AM
no, virgil said he wasn't in beta
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Pyxis_GeeK on June 20, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
I just watched the video. Interesting to say the least. I am curious to what you did to "create" this level. I have to agree with some of the other posters and that you used some sort of hack to create this.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Pyxis_GeeK on June 20, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
I just watched the video. Interesting to say the least. I am curious to what you did to "create" this level. I have to agree with some of the other posters and that you used some sort of hack to create this.

well, it isn't exactly nuclear physics ;)
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: ontheworld on June 20, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:23:12 AM
Quote from: Pyxis_GeeK on June 20, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
I just watched the video. Interesting to say the least. I am curious to what you did to "create" this level. I have to agree with some of the other posters and that you used some sort of hack to create this.

well, it isn't exactly nuclear physics ;)

Yay for inside jokes
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:26:13 AM
Quote from: ontheworld on June 20, 2011, 11:25:08 AM
Yay for inside jokes

well, if they're about limestone, you shouldn't take them for granite
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Ranakastrasz on June 20, 2011, 11:32:47 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:26:13 AM

well, if they're about limestone, you shouldn't take them for granite
Oh god the Pun-ishment
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: CobraKill on June 20, 2011, 11:45:59 AM
What's up with all the puns! :o
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: The Commander on June 20, 2011, 11:45:59 AM
What's up with all the puns! :o

I thought they were very punny
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 20, 2011, 11:52:23 AM
Quote from: Fisherck on June 20, 2011, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:42:59 AM
It is true that I don't have access to the map editor.

I'm not a beta member either.

There is only one lie in all what I said in this thread, though.

And what may that lie be. :)

That you will have to discover! :D

Quote from: Fisherck on June 20, 2011, 09:10:41 AM
Quote from: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:37:12 AM
There are no fields in the upper part of the map (where the rain is). I forgot to turn on the Show Fields option in the video, sorry.

(but you are the closest one to the answer ;) )

Fields are the only way to do this. Could you explain? This is fairly advanced field work.

Maybe with the standard editor it is the only way, but I didn't use them, promise. ;)

I will upload a new video to show that there are no fields if I get some free time.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 20, 2011, 11:58:15 AM
Quote from: Pyxis_GeeK on June 20, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
I just watched the video. Interesting to say the least. I am curious to what you did to "create" this level. I have to agree with some of the other posters and that you used some sort of hack to create this.

Thank you!

By the way, as for people asking for the .cw2 save file, I can't fulfill that request at the moment :'(
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: CobraKill on June 20, 2011, 12:03:18 PM
Quote from: thepenguin on June 20, 2011, 11:47:55 AM
Quote from: The Commander on June 20, 2011, 11:45:59 AM
What's up with all the puns! :o

I thought they were very punny

O' God!  ::)
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 02:28:11 PM
I am really confused as to what is going on here...
A some super secret level, made with a editor that has not been released yet, posted by a 'newbie' (most likely a beta in disguise?), the level has creeper rain, and a whole bunch of puns and inside jokes...
???    :-\
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: snowmaker (JM) on June 20, 2011, 02:37:37 PM
Quote from: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 02:28:11 PM
I am really confused as to what is going on here...
A some super secret level, made with a editor that has not been released yet, posted by a 'newbie' (most likely a beta in disguise?), the level has creeper rain, and a whole bunch of puns and inside jokes...
???    :-\

I wouldn't worry about it too much, if anything, it shows the capability of cw2 which is pretty neat!!
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Pyxis_GeeK on June 20, 2011, 02:39:50 PM
Sure it is cool. There is no need for secrecy though. We give honest feedback all the time. If Virgil and the betas are testing a new idea they can just throw it out there. However if this was a "leak" of some sort, the OP would have been banned.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: knucracker on June 20, 2011, 02:56:53 PM
It's not from me, or one of the betas (that I know of).  It also isn't a secret level, or a result of some early version of the map editor.  To me it looks like a code map and then hacked manipulation of the creeper array to produce the creeper from "nowhere".  Perhaps the large energies used by the LHC have poked a 10th dimensional 'hole' through to a neighboring brane and allowed creeper to leak through....  perhaps...
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 02:59:32 PM
Quote from: virgilw on June 20, 2011, 02:56:53 PM
Perhaps the large energies used by the LHC have poked a 10th dimensional 'hole' through to a neighboring brane and allowed creeper to leak through....  perhaps...

OF COURSE!!! The LHC!
I should have known, those dang engineers and physicists messing with the space time continuum!  >:(
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Pyxis_GeeK on June 20, 2011, 03:00:00 PM
Im sorry LHC? I did a forum search and cant find this abbreviation before this post.....

What are you planning Virgil????


Edit: Google is a wonderful thing.... Large Hadron Collider....
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: CobraKill on June 20, 2011, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah just like I still have no idea what OCD Means... and I have been here a month+ with 200+ posts  :-\
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 03:21:29 PM
Quote from: The Commander on June 20, 2011, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah just like I still have no idea what OCD Means... and I have been here a month+ with 200+ posts  :-\

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Being over obsessed over weird or stupid things. For example, being bothered by small drops of Anti Creeper and wanting to vacuum every last drop. Or only eating green grapes, or only stepping out the front door with your right foot first...all the time.

You are welcome.

>Tony
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Pyxis_GeeK on June 20, 2011, 03:23:12 PM
Quote from: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 03:21:29 PM
Quote from: The Commander on June 20, 2011, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah just like I still have no idea what OCD Means... and I have been here a month+ with 200+ posts  :-\

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Being over obsessed over weird or stupid things. For example, being bothered by small drops of Anti Creeper and wanting to vacuum every last drop. Or only eating green grapes, or only stepping out the front door with your right foot first...all the time.

You are welcome.

>Tony



hmmm I thought of responding. I just thought he was being sarcastic.... We really need a sarcastic font.... anyway back on topic.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: ontheworld on June 20, 2011, 03:27:44 PM
Italic font totally doesn't look sarcastic...
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: CobraKill on June 20, 2011, 04:36:06 PM
Quote from: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 03:21:29 PM
Quote from: The Commander on June 20, 2011, 03:12:57 PM
Yeah just like I still have no idea what OCD Means... and I have been here a month+ with 200+ posts  :-\

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder

Being over obsessed over weird or stupid things. For example, being bothered by small drops of Anti Creeper and wanting to vacuum every last drop. Or only eating green grapes, or only stepping out the front door with your right foot first...all the time.

You are welcome.

>Tony

Thank you kind sir. I think have OCD!
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Blaze on June 20, 2011, 04:56:59 PM
I have OCD, I need to make my networks Symmetrical, I've finished a CW1 level and realized my network was not, and I destroyed everything to rebuild it correctly. :-\
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: DarthVader12 on June 20, 2011, 05:02:54 PM
To sum this all up:

A OCD person hacked a creeper world 2 code map called Secret Raining Level to have the creeper "rain" from the top.
He made a video to troll us and midway through the topic people started making puns about it.

Oh and he will not give us the cw2 file so we can play it.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: ontheworld on June 20, 2011, 05:15:50 PM
that addition was
*sunglasses*
puny

YEAAAH!!!


Sorry, just had to do it...
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 20, 2011, 05:31:19 PM
Quote from: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 02:28:11 PM
I am really confused as to what is going on here...
A some super secret level, made with a editor that has not been released yet, posted by a 'newbie' (most likely a beta in disguise?), the level has creeper rain, and a whole bunch of puns and inside jokes...
???    :-\

Yeah, exactly!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88gvfHmwkRA

I hope you guys like it ;)
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:22:34 PM
Quote from: DarthVader12 on June 20, 2011, 05:02:54 PM
To sum this all up:

A OCD person hacked a creeper world 2 code map called Secret Raining Level to have the creeper "rain" from the top.
He made a video to troll us and midway through the topic people started making puns about it.

Oh and he will not give us the cw2 file so we can play it.

I said I couldn't fulfill that request at that moment.

Now I can :D

Ok, here you have two missions for CW2, have fun please!

Warutel's Rain & Warutel's Flood!

The first one is easy and should be fun for anyone. The second one is harder and I think people will like a map like this. I tried to balance them the best I could in half an hour, so please have mercy :D

If you like this stuff, I will try to make a good/challenging mission :)

Edited: Rain is the easy one, no the other way around.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: burguertime on June 20, 2011, 06:33:23 PM
If you did not get a copy of the map editor, then congrats on making a custom map out of hex editing. If you did, well then good joke, but I think there should be someone out there that broke some EULA.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Blaze on June 20, 2011, 06:44:30 PM
That is no doubt made with a third party program, the repulsors don't cause the creeper to spread out, like what would happen with fields.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: warutel on June 20, 2011, 06:54:43 PM
Quote from: burguertime on June 20, 2011, 06:33:23 PM
If you did not get a copy of the map editor, then congrats on making a custom map out of hex editing. If you did, well then good joke, but I think there should be someone out there that broke some EULA.

I got to go to sleep. Tomorrow I will explain :)
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: TonyP2000 on June 20, 2011, 07:39:04 PM
That second map confused me even more!  :o
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: snowmaker (JM) on June 20, 2011, 07:46:43 PM
Quote from: Blaze on June 20, 2011, 06:44:30 PM
That is no doubt made with a third party program, the repulsors don't cause the creeper to spread out, like what would happen with fields.

The map gets reset to the default settings after a restart.
Title: Save game
Post by: Slooch on June 20, 2011, 08:15:39 PM
So where do you put the save game file?
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: CobraKill on June 20, 2011, 08:17:48 PM
Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it appdata/creeperworld2. I'm on my phone so I can't check.
Title: Re: Secret Raining Level
Post by: Grauniad on June 20, 2011, 08:19:16 PM
We've all had some fun. Save games like this can probably not be loaded outside the beta version of CW2, unless some minor hacking is employed. Also, some of the actions on the video is not available in the real-life saved maps.

We now have a pretty good idea of what happened and it is best this thread ends here. :)