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Title: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: AutoPost on December 13, 2010, 03:52:51 PM
This topic is for discussion of map: Emergency (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/mapcomments.php?id=3637)
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/thumb.php?id=3637) (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/mapcomments.php?id=3637)

Author: Sqaz (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewmaps.php?author=Sqaz)

Desc:
A hard puzzle, be prepared to search your way out of this spaceship, but I warn you, I'm certain you won't succeed the first time, cause you'll need all your skills to get yourself out of this map alive commander.
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: Karsten75 on December 13, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Well, what do you call it if the spore waves destroy the life pods in the first wave before you can even fly a blaster to be there to protect them?

I call it "sux!"  :(

Not once, not twice, but three times - that is after a number of false starts to figure out what the heck this map is all about.

Oh yea, once it even had a direct hit and destroy *after* the blaster landed.

Nice work Sqaz.
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: Michionlion on December 13, 2010, 04:10:30 PM
That was probably just a mistake or something on the part of sqaz... no need to be acusatory.
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: UpperKEES on December 13, 2010, 09:37:27 PM
Quote from: Karsten75 on December 13, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Well, what do you call it if the spore waves destroy the life pods in the first wave before you can even fly a blaster to be there to protect them?

How is this possible when the spores always target the collectors? ???

Quote from: Karsten75 on December 13, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Oh yea, once it even had a direct hit and destroy *after* the blaster landed.

When you make sure there's at least 1 collector as bait for the spores, the pods will always be safe, no matter how unlucky you are.

@ Sqaz: please tell me if you like me to remove these hints.
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: snowmaker (JM) on December 13, 2010, 10:11:20 PM
I tried what Karsten was talking about the first time... didn't work very well  :P   I should be able to shave off minutes now that I know how to complete the map. Nice puzzle    ;)

edit: I almost took off 5 minutes... that's good enough for me  8)
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: Sqaz on December 14, 2010, 12:25:03 AM
Quote from: Karsten75 on December 13, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Well, what do you call it if the spore waves destroy the life pods in the first wave before you can even fly a blaster to be there to protect them?

I call it "sux!"  :(

Not once, not twice, but three times - that is after a number of false starts to figure out what the heck this map is all about.

Oh yea, once it even had a direct hit and destroy *after* the blaster landed.

If you'd take the time to read the hints, you'd notice that it isn't based on luck.
As Kees said you should always make sure the spore waves are attracted to a collector or relay, otherwise you're doing something wrong.

Quote from: Karsten75 on December 13, 2010, 04:03:49 PM
Nice work Sqaz.

Thank you  :)
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: RichieRich on December 14, 2010, 09:31:07 AM
Great map Squaz thanks.
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: Sqaz on December 14, 2010, 11:04:41 AM
I also want to credit Kapoios for this map, he actually gave the main idea about the first spore waves.
I half forgot to place this in the description and was half afraid people would think this map would be a bit like the Temple of Moloch (which it ckearly isn't).

So thank you Kapoios :)
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: Kapoios on December 14, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
Quote from: Sqaz on December 14, 2010, 11:04:41 AM
I also want to credit Kapoios for this map, he actually gave the main idea about the first spore waves.
I was very surprised that you came up with this so quickly. I think you uploaded the map less than half an hour after I gave you the idea in chat.

Great map, Sqaz! I still haven't beaten it because I'm having some trouble with getting the survivors on the right. Not at the point of asking for hint yet, though! ;)

My only minor complain about this one is that everything is the same colour inside the ship and you can't see the elevations. So, you can't know in advance where you can put your blasters and if a blaster can shoot two emitters from a position (since you can't tell which is higher and if there's a high barrier between them). Elevations 3 and 5 could do with a different tint. I feel that searching square by square with the mouse or going to the editor to see what's going on is an unnecessary inconvenience. It's so much better when you can simply keep looking at the screen and thinking on a puzzle map.

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I half forgot to place this in the description and was half afraid people would think this map would be a bit like the Temple of Moloch (which it ckearly isn't).
You say that as if it's a bad thing to be like the Temple!

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So thank you Kapoios :)
You're very welcome.
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: Sqaz on December 14, 2010, 01:47:22 PM
Quote from: Kapoios on December 14, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
My only minor complain about this one is that everything is the same colour inside the ship and you can't see the elevations. So, you can't know in advance where you can put your blasters and if a blaster can shoot two emitters from a position (since you can't tell which is higher and if there's a high barrier between them). Elevations 3 and 5 could do with a different tint. I feel that searching square by square with the mouse or going to the editor to see what's going on is an unnecessary inconvenience. It's so much better when you can simply keep looking at the screen and thinking on a puzzle map.

Sorry, I already made the background and didn't really want to change it, cause it'd ruin the looks of the map.
I hope it isn't to irritating, it's only one wall before the last furthest emitter in front of OC, and a 3X3 square on each of the interval and 0.1 emitters, and also some little bits to stop important walls from decaying, I hope you can remember those things :P, and otherwise don't worry about emitters spilling, the only ones that threaten you are the emitter below the survivors and the emitters left and right of the central hall.

Quote from: Kapoios on December 14, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
You say that as if it's a bad thing to be like the Temple!

Of course, cause then it wouldn't be very original, and everybody would know the solution.
If you copy a Picasso you won't get a lot of money for it.

Quote from: Kapoios on December 14, 2010, 01:35:59 PM
I was very surprised that you came up with this so quickly. I think you uploaded the map less than half an hour after I gave you the idea in chat.

Actually more like two days, I spend a lot of time tweaking the emitter below the totem and working around the fact that if a spore hits a wall segment that wall part doesn't decay, after I said you it was done I actually only had made a short action plan and a lay-out.
Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: Kapoios on December 14, 2010, 02:17:19 PM
Quote from: Sqaz on December 14, 2010, 01:47:22 PM
I hope it isn't to irritating, it's only one wall before the last furthest emitter in front of OC, and a 3X3 square on each of the interval and 0.1 emitters, and also some little bits to stop important walls from decaying, I hope you can remember those things :P, and otherwise don't worry about emitters spilling, the only ones that threaten you are the emitter below the survivors and the emitters left and right of the central hall.
No, it isn't too irritating. Indeed, I memorised what I needed very quickly. Just saying my minor complaint. On the whole I think it's a great map.

Title: Re: Custom Map: Emergency
Post by: burguertime on December 15, 2010, 09:30:44 AM
Quote from: Sqaz on December 14, 2010, 01:47:22 PM
Of course, cause then it wouldn't be very original, and everybody would know the solution.
If you copy a Picasso you won't get a lot of money for it.

If you copy a Picasso, you become a bit better painter than you was before.

You can make paintings inspired on some great artist's work and then move on to your own style. Art students do this all the time.

A genius painter like Picasso can even change the way the world sees art. And he would be (if he was still alive) proud of it, instead of bashing and trolling the aforementioned art students into oblivion.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/01/18/sunday/main2371451.shtml

Lets do art for the sake of art. Let your art inspire others into making more art. Even if you do not like post-modern dadaist art.

Be proud, not jealous. The only way to 100% own an idea is to keep it like a good secret: inside your head alone.

Once its out, it will get a life of its own, like a child.

Be a good parent to it. Foster it. Cheer when it makes a homerun.

(i would suggest setting AdBlock Plus on your Firefox before viewing this article below):
http://www.masternewmedia.org/news/2006/07/12/intellectual_property_vs_knowledge_sharing.htm