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Title: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on October 26, 2010, 05:39:39 AM
This weeks theme has been selected by Siccles:

Really tall buildings

The maps to be played before Sunday October 31 at midnight (forum time) are:










Map
Completion Date
Name
Height
Floors
Country








1.
January 4, 2010 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=0&day=4&year1=2&year2=0&year3=1&year4=0)
Burj Khalifa
828 m / 2,717 ft
162
United Arab Emirates
2.
December 31, 2004 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=11&day=31&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=4)
Taipei
508 m / 1,667 ft
101
Taiwan
3.
August 28, 2008 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=28&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=8)
Shanghai World Financial Center
492 m / 1,614 ft
101
China
4.
August 31, 1999 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=31&year1=1&year2=9&year3=9&year4=9)
Petronas Twin Towers
452 m / 1,483 ft
88
Malaysia
5.
May 3, 1973 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=3&year1=1&year2=9&year3=7&year4=3)
Willis Tower
442 m / 1,451 ft
108
USA









Note: it isn't really a top 5, because some buildings had to be cut out due to not finding out the exact completion dates / not being officially completed.

The winner (best total score) gets to pick next weeks theme. If we have the same winner as last week, the runner up (#2) will pick the theme. See here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4621.0) for the rules and an overview of themes.

Please post your progress/total scores in this topic to ease the calculations at the end of the week.

Good luck and enjoy! :)
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: Katra on October 26, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
Okay; Tasonir gets this week's 'Speedy Gonzalez' award for first to complete all maps.  ;D

My scores so far

Jan   4 2010    8930    7:11
Dec 31 2004    9703    1:50
Aug 28 2008    8964    6:56
Aug 31 1999    9230    5:00
May  3 1973    9774    1:23

total score    46601
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on October 27, 2010, 11:35:39 AM

My results:






Map
Date
Score
Time




1.
January 4, 2010 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=0&day=4&year1=2&year2=0&year3=1&year4=0)
8856
7:45
2.
December 31, 2004 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=11&day=31&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=4)
9732
1:39
3.
August 28, 2008 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=28&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=8)
9188
5:18
4.
August 31, 1999 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=31&year1=1&year2=9&year3=9&year4=9)
9401
3:49
5.
May 3, 1973 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=3&year1=1&year2=9&year3=7&year4=3)
9793
1:16




Totals:
46970
19:47





I won't have much more time this week, but hopefully I'll find a moment to improve my unsatisfying score for map 1.
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: RandyTravis on October 28, 2010, 09:03:26 AM
Wow... I can't even get the fools mate down to a reasonable time. This might be because I am spending sleep time playing creeperworld...
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on October 28, 2010, 09:17:18 AM
Heheh! I know how it feels.... with lack of sleep my gameplay doesn't become better either....
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: ctuna on October 28, 2010, 10:30:13 PM
Map   Completion Date              Time   Score
1.   January 4, 2010                8:40   8737
2.   December 31, 2004           1:45   9716
3.   August 28, 2008               7:22   8906
4.   August 31, 1999               4:39   9280
5.   May 3, 1973                     1:22   9777
   TOTALS                           23:44  46416

Might be time for some tweaks.
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: RichieRich on October 29, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
My results:
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Map
Date
Score
Time




1.
January 4, 2010 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=0&day=4&year1=2&year2=0&year3=1&year4=0)
8426
11:12
2.
December 31, 2004 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=11&day=31&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=4)
9711
1:47
3.
August 28, 2008 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=28&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=8)
8653
9:20
4.
August 31, 1999 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=31&year1=1&year2=9&year3=9&year4=9)
9197
5:14
5.
May 3, 1973 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=3&year1=1&year2=9&year3=7&year4=3)
9779
1:21




Totals:
45766
28:54





[/quote]

Not great times but after missing a few weeks wanted to post up something...
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: Colin on October 29, 2010, 12:19:45 PM
My scores:

Jan   4 2010    8271    13:01
Dec 31 2004    9564    2:44
Aug 28 2008    8819    8:02
Aug 31 1999    9056    6:15
May  3 1973    9700    1:51

Totals, SCORE:45410 31:53


Well I did pretty good on all of them except Jan 4th.... I might come back to that one later  ::)
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: hi on October 31, 2010, 09:16:19 PM
hi

Jan   4  2010    9362    4:05
Dec 31  2004    9729    1:40
Aug 28  2008    9382    3:57
Aug 31  1999    9559    2:46
May  3  1973    9782    1:20

Totals, SCORE:47814    13:48

The score on map 3 can still be improved a lot I think.

hi
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 12:13:48 AM
I decided to give it another shot after a couple of hints for map 3 by hi and I got pretty lucky in the last hour of the tournament:






Map
Date
Score
Time




1.
January 4, 2010 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=0&day=4&year1=2&year2=0&year3=1&year4=0)
9372
4:01
2.
December 31, 2004 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=11&day=31&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=4)
9732
1:39
3.
August 28, 2008 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=28&year1=2&year2=0&year3=0&year4=8)
9389
3:54
4.
August 31, 1999 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=31&year1=1&year2=9&year3=9&year4=9)
9538
2:54
5.
May 3, 1973 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=3&year1=1&year2=9&year3=7&year4=3)
9793
1:16




Totals:
47824
13:44





I'm sure I couldn't have made it without hi's tips for map 3, so I'll pick his theme for next week, which I will post after calculating all tournament results.
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: Tasonir on November 01, 2010, 12:15:10 AM
Quote from: Katra on October 26, 2010, 04:13:15 PM
Okay; Tasonir gets this week's 'Speedy Gonzalez' award for first to complete all maps.  ;D

Rawr ;)  I didn't post a summation because I thought I'd take the time to actually refine my times, but then I never got around to it, so some of my times are really really high :)

15:36
02:05
12:22
06:31
04:56

total: 41:30
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: Tasonir on November 01, 2010, 12:19:10 AM
Quote from: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 12:13:48 AM
I decided to give it another shot after a couple of hints for map 3 by hi and I got pretty lucky in the last hour of the tournament:

I'm sure I couldn't have made it without hi's tips for map 3, so I'll pick his theme for next week, which I will post after calculating all tournament results.

Care to link/paste them here?  I don't see a thread about it, I'm curious how you could beat it in literally 25% of the time I took
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Tasonir on November 01, 2010, 12:19:10 AM
Care to link/paste them here?  I don't see a thread about it, I'm curious how you could beat it in literally 25% of the time I took

Sure. It's kind of tradition that the winner posts his/her solutions (see previous tournaments), so I'll do that after I've set up next weeks tournament.
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 12:55:47 AM

Tournament Results






RankPlayerTotal Score



1.UpperKEES47824
2.hi47814
3.Katra46601
4.ctuna46416
5.mopa4246174
6.Richie Rich45766
7.Colin45401
8.Izz45255
9.RandyTravis44442
10.Tasonir44151
11.L'ythelle44111
12.chretip43861
13.Siccles38264*
14.Pezzle35133*
15.Echo5117019*
16.Speedwell108281*




* Did not finish all maps.


Next weeks theme will be: Einstein's Miracle Year (1905) (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5195.msg27796#msg27796).
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 12:16:04 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 12:34:18 AM
Quote from: Tasonir on November 01, 2010, 12:19:10 AM
Care to link/paste them here?  I don't see a thread about it, I'm curious how you could beat it in literally 25% of the time I took

Sure. It's kind of tradition that the winner posts his/her solutions (see previous tournaments), so I'll do that after I've set up next weeks tournament.

So here they are. Please feel free to post your own solutions as well or ask questions about mine.

January 4, 2010
(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=1741;image)

December 31, 2004
(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=1743;image)

August 28, 2008 (This is actually hi's solution; I was just able to shave a few seconds off.)
(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=1745;image)

August 31, 1999
(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=1747;image)

May 3, 1973
(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=5155.0;attach=1762;image)
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: ctuna on November 01, 2010, 03:24:37 PM
UpperKEES: my main problem with, for example, the cluster of blasters in the first and third maps, is how to keep them active while the collectors load. Do you space their arrivals a few seconds apart, send them in in small clusters or pairs, alternate their active states to delay them running out of energy, or what?

The last one is, I think, April 19, 1922, from the fighter aces tournament.
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 03:50:38 PM
Yeah, timing is very important (and can be frustrating). When you want to clean an area it's better when all blasters start firing simultaneously, so just activate them when they have all landed. Some might take a little damage, but once they start firing they will protect each other. This is also a reason to keep them close together.

Another reason is that they will fire at less creeper that way, thus preserving energy. This is also why you like them close to the edge of the map or an higher elevation.

Once an area has been cleared (often just 3-5 shots of each blaster are needed) you can indeed deactivate some of them, depending on the intensity of the creeper. You activate them again when the other blasters run out of juice. The +20% faster building upgrades allows you to use less fire power, because the collector being built will finish faster.

You'll have to experiment a bit with this and their positions to find the best set up and even then you'll probably fail more than 50% of the time when trying the use the minimum amount possible. I often use one blaster more than I really need to make sure I can set a decent time and try to do it without that one later on. I'm often that concentrated on the collector being finished that I forget to look at my bridging SAM exploding in the creeper ;)

Please note that some of the above advises also come from hi & Siccles, so it can pay off to join the chat once in a while to discuss the latest progress! :)
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: ctuna on November 01, 2010, 04:45:36 PM
Yeah, I get the SAM-sacrifice error frequently. I guess, again, it's mostly my lack of patience to keep trying when it seems so tedious. Also, I've tried the chat a few times, but rarely came across actual gameplay discussion - Maybe I'll give it a try more often. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 05:07:04 PM
Same for me, I don't have as much patience as some other who pause every 1-2 seconds (or even after a few frames in certain cases!). On the other hand I often pause every 10-20 seconds, which is a lot more than most people do. It just depends how much time I have available and how eager I am to win. When I think I can make it by just a few hours of intensive play, I'll go for it, but I am not able to keep that up for weeks (and I don't want to either).
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: Katra on November 01, 2010, 06:36:55 PM
I don't like to pause a lot except right at the beginning to set and build; but there are cases where I have to. (dropping a cluster of blasters into the creep is one - pause, set move, and unpause is my preferred method of doing it) And I'll pause frequently if I'm managing a blaster charge across a wide area. I can't click fast enough to keep a dozen or so blasters leapfrogging forward efficiently.  ;D

I don't use SAMs for bridging very often; but all too often I'll look down and see 'Spore attack in 0:10' and realize I forgot my SAMs...  (Sometimes that works out OK though; the last map I played on this week's OC disappeared just as the siren went off.)
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: Fisherck on November 01, 2010, 06:53:47 PM
UpperKEES, I think you put the wrong picture for May 3, 1973. It looks a lot like April 19, 1922 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5037.15) ;D.
Title: Re: Weekly history tournament - Really tall buildings - closing Oct. 31
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 07:15:40 PM
Quote from: ctuna on November 01, 2010, 03:24:37 PM
The last one is, I think, April 19, 1922, from the fighter aces tournament.

Quote from: Fisherck on November 01, 2010, 06:53:47 PM
UpperKEES, I think you put the wrong picture for May 3, 1973. It looks a lot like April 19, 1922 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5037.15) ;D.

Oops, sorry! :-[ Something apparently went wrong there. Also my apologies for not noticing ctuna's remark about it.

Should be okay now.... :)