This topic is for discussion of map #10977: Bonus PAC map 3 - Joker map
(https://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=10977)
Author: Martin Gronsdal
Size: 200x120
Desc:
This map is just a joke. Many thanks to Rennervate / AlexX for the PAC files, and for information on how to use them. Thanks to Mr. builder17 for useful tips. I'd appreciate your feedback in the forums... #PAC #Play As Creeper
Well, I give up. What are we supposed to do with this one?
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punch a hole in the AC pool... There's a sprayer there... and it's hungry... or maybe thirsty?
many thanks for playing
I got that, but the island on the top right is impenetrable.
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did you get the extra PZ? place a spore tower there and go straight for the CN...
There are no PZs on this map except the ones on the island in the northeast.
Well, I found the answer.
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There are two invisible CRPL cores under the top 2 relays. They need to be fed AC and once they are full they will die and leave behind PZs.
couldn't resist ;)
what is it with those hidden things? There are no hints or whatsoever how to solve such map without asking here in the forum. Personally, I dislike that as it's not the way I prefer to play maps. I'm gonna rate it 3 for the effort, but you won't get a 10 from me for hidden things without hints to solve.
Quote from: spirix on December 07, 2023, 04:34:23 AMwhat is it with those hidden things? There are no hints or whatsoever how to solve such map without asking here in the forum. Personally, I dislike that as it's not the way I prefer to play maps. I'm gonna rate it 3 for the effort, but you won't get a 10 from me for hidden things without hints to solve.
OK.
Its not just "ok"
I like this game and I appriciate Map-maker like you.
But hidden rules? Thats not a challenge from tactics and stratigcs its just a search for things that I dont know they exist.
I stopped playing your normal maps (not #pac) because of this.
I just ignored them, even when the look intresting. I see them and then I see the author "Martin Gronsdal" and think "no, thats one of the frustrating maps, where it will be probably a solution, but its just luck to find them and not skilled thinking" and I left them alone.
But now you are making #pac - maps and I really love #pac, so I gave it a try. And here I am to lookin in the forums again, what I am not getting, not seeing ..... and it is the same. I din't saw it because its not there, its just a hidden thing, just luck to find it, no brain was needed, no learning curve there because its random.
Please (at least), give a hint in the description, that there is something to search. Or better: makeing a map thata not need asymetric information and its solvable whith a reasonable amount of thinking instead of luck. I for one would apriacte it. Btu I understand, its your work to making a map and therefore you can of course do what ever pleases you, I get that too.
quite frankly, you have found a solution to your "problem".
bit more light necromancy... and i have read about the secret...
but i think the cprl is broken or something for me...
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i flooded the area under the top two relays with AC... left it for ages! but nothing happened.
so sadly i guess i don't get to do this one!
might go run it in the editor and see if i can see the result of the cprl i suppose... just a few more maps to play first ;)
If memory serves, the
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AC needs to come from the CN as packets
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Quote from: stdout on March 21, 2024, 10:17:33 AMIf memory serves, the Spoiler
AC needs to come from the CN as packets
right... ok, off to rethink this one again i guess!
cheers dude! 8)
I thought the solution to this map was pretty obvious. Come to the forums, read some stuff, and then go back to the map and do the things people said stuff about. Because that's where it's at.
I'm glad I got an early parole because playing maps like this is way more fun than <redacted> all those <redacted> every Thursday night. Allegedly.
At the same time, trying to figure out maps like this without the forums would probably drive me to go back to allegedly <redacted> again.
Almost thanks for the map!