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Title: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: AutoPost on September 28, 2021, 02:41:07 PM
This topic is for discussion of map #9710: Three Ways
(https://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=9710)

Author: Martin Gronsdal
Size: 200x256

Desc:
this map gives the player three approaches: Sprayers, Cannons and a combo of limited Cannons with a few Berthas. This is a trick map, but the tricks aren't that difficult. You have to pick up all the pick ups at the end, but you can do it earlier, obtaining all weaponry for the final onslaught. When possible, place reactors/Berthas on PZ's, that helps a lot!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wenda12 on September 28, 2021, 05:23:28 PM
20 min very bad time i go to 15 :)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on September 28, 2021, 07:20:25 PM
Go for it!

And tell me how you did it in a spoiler, if you please.


Thank you for playing!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on September 29, 2021, 04:39:47 AM
MG,
It took about 10 tries, but
Spoiler
I finally have to admit that I don't have a clue how to beat this thing.
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Excellent work!
H
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 04:46:37 AM
music in my ears ;)


no, just kidding ;) thank you for playing!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: renelm on September 29, 2021, 07:28:59 AM
Sigh.. thought I had a good idea, but keep getting stuck on
Spoiler
The fact that the CN has to be connected to the things you want to pick up and I can't find any way of getting the CN connected to anything.. I started out with the top leftmost island, and guppying AC down the top 'sausage' island, clearing that, and now I am utterly stuck.. do I need to move the CN and in that case to where?
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 09:57:13 AM
Spoiler
no moving CN on this map, in fact, it's not possible (unless you orbit it, but that's game over  ;D)
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: renelm on September 29, 2021, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 09:57:13 AM
Spoiler
no moving CN on this map, in fact, it's not possible (unless you orbit it, but that's game over  ;D)
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Well.. I already figured that much out... any actual tips?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 12:01:22 PM
there are two ways to proceed.

withouth moving the CN, you have to somehow, make it connect with the grid on what you called the sausage island (a great name!)

Spoiler
try to play around with stuff on the sausage island, maybe you'll "see" the solution then
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on September 29, 2021, 12:04:29 PM
Quote from: renelm on September 29, 2021, 11:08:23 AM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 09:57:13 AM
Spoiler
no moving CN on this map, in fact, it's not possible (unless you orbit it, but that's game over  ;D)
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Well.. I already figured that much out... any actual tips?

Tips?
Hell yes.
From your lips to MG's ears (or eyes).

I started with the Guns N Roses (or Berthas) side and got not too far, then tried the other two possibilities, got less far, then I tried having a couple of beers.
Sure hope we get some real tips before I'm three sheets to the wind and can't sit up straight.
Thanks,
H234
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on September 29, 2021, 12:30:56 PM
OK, so what's wrong with this picture?
If I could figure out how to grab that Nullifier and go, I'd be a happy camper.

Also, are we allowed to say "Three Way" on a family friendly website?
(Asking for a friend.)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 12:36:13 PM
Spoiler
look at the flowers in the garden and find that one flower you can cut, but plant again
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on September 29, 2021, 12:59:16 PM
Sorry, forgot to add the screen grab.
Spoiler
I see the PZ on Sausage Island, but a Relay from there doesn't connect to anything.
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Aha!
The fourth beer did it. When you eliminate to possible, the impossible becomes the solution. (Paraphrasing my friend Art.)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 01:21:26 PM
eliminate the even more impossible.

again

Spoiler
look for a flower in the garden, that was already there and that can be planted again
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on September 29, 2021, 02:26:46 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 01:21:26 PM
eliminate the even more impossible.

again

Spoiler
look for a flower in the garden, that was already there and that can be planted again
[close]

Spoiler
I understood your clue (for a starting point), but couldn't figure out the end point.
That took some deducing.
[close]

10/10 for fun and brain cramp-ability.

Concur on the 15 minute possible. I missed a couple of Relay placements that cost me several seconds each.
I will give it another go, but there are a couple of DMD maps with my name on them.

Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: SanchesS80 on September 29, 2021, 04:46:20 PM
Here is simple solution in the spoiler. Read it if you don't want to think over one more time
Spoiler
i removed forge and built new one. I allows to connect CW with the 'sausage'
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wenda12 on September 29, 2021, 07:16:01 PM
Spoiler
very hard to have nullifier i thinks need 10 on packet speed
after destroy all go first kill the big one for finish take the over
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Deatzar on September 30, 2021, 08:40:49 AM
Отличная карта. Пришлось напрячь мозг.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: SanchesS80 on September 30, 2021, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: Deatzar on September 30, 2021, 08:40:49 AM
Отличная карта. Пришлось напрячь мозг.
Русскоговорящие тут тоже труться смотрю :) Unexpected.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on September 30, 2021, 12:43:09 PM
I guess it would be easier if (most of) players didn't have to use googla translate, but thx for playing, of course
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: renelm on September 30, 2021, 06:13:13 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on September 29, 2021, 12:01:22 PM
there are two ways to proceed.

withouth moving the CN, you have to somehow, make it connect with the grid on what you called the sausage island (a great name!)

Spoiler
try to play around with stuff on the sausage island, maybe you'll "see" the solution then
[close]

Ah.. oh.. nnnnnnnnng..... got it!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wenda12 on October 01, 2021, 06:13:25 PM
Spoiler
ho i see on the harder move the forge
in this one i dont move it lol very hard
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on October 01, 2021, 06:37:02 PM
It is actually possible to never destroy the forge. My fault, as it is unintentional
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Lappan on October 01, 2021, 08:50:43 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on October 01, 2021, 06:37:02 PM
It is actually possible to never destroy the forge. My fault, as it is unintentional
Just one more clue please - how?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on October 02, 2021, 04:04:52 AM
You'll need high packets speed and
Spoiler
to play the right island from the start
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Title: Re: Custom Map #9710: Three Ways. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: yum-forum on October 30, 2021, 03:57:55 PM
Quote from: SanchesS80 on September 30, 2021, 08:50:26 AM
Quote from: Deatzar on September 30, 2021, 08:40:49 AM
Отличная карта. Пришлось напрячь мозг.
Русскоговорящие тут тоже труться смотрю :) Unexpected.

и много их? я по-японски тоже могу  :)