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Title: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 09, 2010, 08:33:05 PM
There are many suggestions concerning highscores and score lists for custom maps. Reading them, I decided to keep track of highscores on a series of maps I'm creating, the Fenris campaign. In this thread I'll keep record of the top 10 highscores of each map and give out achievements to anyone who posts proof of gaining them. Right now, I don't have any plans to wipe the highscores, but it's possible, depending on how many people actually submit their times. There will be a second highscore, which consists of the points you get for gaining achievements. Each achievement gives a certain point of Fenris Achievement Points (FAP). Even if you're not in any highscore I'll note your username, your achievements and the amount of FAPs you have.

Despite it's outlook, any comment, question, discussion, hint (or walkthrough within reason) is just as welcome here.

Rules:
- To submit your highscore and time you need to post a screenshot of Baldur City flying towards the rift and the chart shown to you after Baldur City successfully left the battlefield.*
- To get an achievement you have to post a screenshot that clearly shows the required objectives done. If the achievement requires you to win a map, you shouldn't screen the graph but the game with an activated rift.
- To get an achievement where you aren't allowed to pick up a schematic, you do _not_ need to pick up an artifact or survival pod if it's in close proximety to the schematic you want to avoid.
- Use the most recent versions of the maps. As of the posting date, Fenris I-III have been updated and IV released.
- If an attempt to cheat on any achievement or highscore is proven, the entry will be wiped and under no circumstances can that person submit any highscore or gain any achievement.

*You might ask: Why? Because on the graph you can spot simple hacks. Should someone build pre-gamestart with a bug, or access the memory to alter game values, things such as a starting collection of 10 (as example) will show on the graph.

Achievements:

Chapter 1
- 1 FAP: Finish the map "Sudden Deployment"
- 2 FAPs: Win without using SAMs "Anit-Air? What's that?"
   (do not pick the SAM schematic up, connect and charge all totems)
- 3 FAPs: Do not cap any Emitters and win "Safety Distance"
   (no blasters may be able to shoot at an Emitter directly)
- 5 FAPs: Win without using Drones and Mortars "Close Combat Specialist"
   (do not pick the Drone and/or Blaster schematic up, connect and charge all totems)

Chapter 2
- 1 FAP: Finish the map "Medal of Fenris"
- 3 FAPs: Do not cap more than 6 Emitters and win "Limited Firepower"

Chapter 3
- 1 FAP: Finish the map "Noone Left Behind"
- 2 FAPs: Cap all Emitters "Total Victory"
- 4 FAPs: Rescue all survivors within 6:30 minutes "Quick And Dirty"
   (doesn't have to win the map)

Chapter 4
- 3 FAPs: Finish the map "Into The Storm"
- 6 FAPs: Cap only the Emitters surrounding the totems and win "Ninja Training"
   (no blaster may be able to shoot at the central 7 Emitters directly)
- 8 FAPs: Finish the map with a score of 7000+ "Roadrunner"
- 6 FAPs: Finish the map with a score of 8000+ "Blitzkrieg-Commander"

Right now, there's a total of 45 FAPs.
Title: Re: Fenris Series
Post by: Xylnalya on January 09, 2010, 08:34:07 PM
Highscores

      Chapter I                                 Chapter II                  Chapter    III                  Chapter IV


1.   Siccles            9221         SPIFFEN   5511            SPIFFEN   6340            Siccles   8318
2.   ItsFunToLose   9045       Karsten75   5378                                             Alwego   7239
3.   Xylnalya          8639
4.   Karsten75        7177
5.   SPIFFEN          6998
6.   
7.   
8.   
9.   
10.   

FAPs

1.   Siccles   24/45
2.   Alwego   11/45
3.   SPIFFEN   3/45
4.   ItsFunToLose   1/45
      Karsten75   1/45
      Xylnalya   1/45

Achievements

Alwego   2/13
   - Into The Storm
   - Roadrunner

ItsFunToLose   1/13
   - Sudden Deployment

Karsten75   1/13
   - Sudden Deployment

Siccles   5/13
   - Into the Storm
   - Ninja Training
   - Roadrunner
   - Blitzkrieg-Commander
   - Sudden Deployment

SPIFFEN   3/13
   - Sudden Deployment
   - Medal of Fenris
   - Noone Left Behind

Xylnalya   1/13
   - Sudden Deployment




I'll have to get around and make a bbcode table someday :D
As Karsten said in a recent thread, I'll post my own highscores and achievements (with screens ofc) as soon as I get around to do them.
Title: Re: Fenris Series
Post by: Karsten75 on January 09, 2010, 08:38:09 PM
Booo!  I didn't know I had to screenshot the graph after each battle.

(http://i49.tinypic.com/11rgd51.jpg)


I'll have to redo the maps to get legit scores.. ;)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Siccles on January 09, 2010, 09:12:52 PM
- Use the most recent versions of the maps. As of the posting date, Fenris I-III have been updated and IV released.

I hope you didnot start with the old maps again, otherwise you have to start again

edit:(http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/8540/fenris4allgraph.th.jpg) (http://img197.imageshack.us/i/fenris4allgraph.jpg/) (http://img709.imageshack.us/img709/1922/fenris4all.th.jpg) (http://img709.imageshack.us/i/fenris4all.jpg/)

highscore: 8318
achievements: all of them
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 09, 2010, 09:34:56 PM
Quote from: Siccles on January 09, 2010, 09:12:52 PM
- Use the most recent versions of the maps. As of the posting date, Fenris I-III have been updated and IV released.

I hope you didnot start with the old maps again, otherwise you have to start again


Rats!!!!
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 09, 2010, 10:21:32 PM
Type on Fenris I opening dialog.

Last paragraph. [Intel]  ... the quickened deployment left some of our personal[sic] scattered.

Should read "personnel".
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 09, 2010, 10:58:59 PM
I think if I try again, I can do better. but for now.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/hwlef7.jpg)(http://i46.tinypic.com/dpa8h5.jpg)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 09, 2010, 11:02:19 PM
Am I posting the wrong map? Siccles shows a completely different map than mine??
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Siccles on January 09, 2010, 11:18:53 PM
i posted fenris 4 you posted fenris 1, so no problem.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 09, 2010, 11:20:08 PM
Quote from: Siccles on January 09, 2010, 11:18:53 PM
i posted fenris 4 you posted fenris 1, so no problem.

Damn, you are good. Fenris 4 beta took me > 1 hour.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 09, 2010, 11:27:39 PM
Nice , a own thread for Fenris =D
Well i downloaded the maps again and started over ,
so heres my score for Fenris Chap I :

(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/5797/fenrischap1end.th.jpg) (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap1end.jpg)(http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/127/fenrischap1endgraph.th.jpg) (http://img252.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap1endgraph.jpg)

I had sams and destroyd them after the spore attack ,
but i dont think i would survive without them .
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 10, 2010, 01:09:54 AM
Fenris chap II , i have trubbel with this map =P
So i hope someone post nice pics and info about this soon .
I started the map without sams , but have trubbel without them ,
so now i start making them far in the game =/ .

(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/3503/fenrischap2nosamsfirsts.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap2nosamsfirsts.jpg)(http://img143.imageshack.us/img143/2017/fenrischap2makingsamsno.th.jpg) (http://img143.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap2makingsamsno.jpg)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 10, 2010, 02:07:10 AM
Fenris Chap II scores : ( same game as last post , so sams worked nice for me )

(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/5298/fenrischap2end.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap2end.jpg)(http://img140.imageshack.us/img140/9233/fenrischap2endgraph.th.jpg) (http://img140.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap2endgraph.jpg)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 10, 2010, 08:07:56 AM
Quote from: Karsten
Type on Fenris I opening dialog.

Last paragraph. [Intel]  ... the quickened deployment left some of our personal[sic] scattered.

Should read "personnel".
Ah, dammit. That's been posted in the comments of Fenris I already and I ran a spellcheck on every text >.< I overlooked that one. Gonna update it sometime soon (not this week :P)

Siccles, stop being so good :P

Getting to post the first scores now :3
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Siccles on January 10, 2010, 09:57:48 AM
Fenris 1:

(http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/7973/fenris1scoregraph.th.jpg) (http://img189.imageshack.us/i/fenris1scoregraph.jpg/) (http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9195/fenris1score.th.jpg) (http://img694.imageshack.us/i/fenris1score.jpg/)

Highscore: 8882
Achievements: Sudden Deployment
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 10, 2010, 12:25:44 PM
I think this is Fenris II.  I'll upload smaller pics next time.

(http://i45.tinypic.com/hwlef7.jpg)(http://i46.tinypic.com/dpa8h5.jpg)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 10, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
That's Fenris I Karsten. The title is "Fenris - Chapter I" ;) You've posted the exact same pictures already, btw ... o.O
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 10, 2010, 01:26:44 PM
Here is some table code. Just quote it to copy the source. Perhaps too compicated, SMF tables are not nearly as good as HTML tables.







High ScoresFenris IFenris IIFenris IIIFenris VI
NameScoreNameScoreNameScoreNameScore
1Spiffen6998Spiffen5511Siccles8318
2
3
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 10, 2010, 01:29:24 PM
Quote from: Xylnalya on January 10, 2010, 01:03:53 PM
That's Fenris I Karsten. The title is "Fenris - Chapter I" ;) You've posted the exact same pictures already, btw ... o.O

*facepalm*

Try these:

(http://i48.tinypic.com/346rnmb.jpg)(http://i46.tinypic.com/ibm1l1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: ItsFunToLose on January 10, 2010, 04:35:14 PM
Fenris 1

(http://i49.tinypic.com/2iwa914.jpg)

This map can hit 9300 I bet.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Siccles on January 10, 2010, 05:45:14 PM
Fenris 1
(http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5209/fenris1score2.th.jpg) (http://img132.imageshack.us/i/fenris1score2.jpg/)(http://img710.imageshack.us/img710/9143/fenris1scoregraph2.th.jpg) (http://img710.imageshack.us/i/fenris1scoregraph2.jpg/)

Highscore:9221
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 10, 2010, 07:44:39 PM
Fenris 3. One of the survival pod dialogs.

" A City! We're save Now. Our Saviours!"

Perhaps it should be "We're safe now" or "We've been saved now?"
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 11, 2010, 06:29:37 AM
S'posed to be the first of those :S
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 11, 2010, 07:20:30 AM
LOL now i have trubbel with the chap III =P
Hope some pics comes soon =)
Edit :
Maybe this is the start for me =P :

(http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/8444/fenrischap3start.th.jpg) (http://img130.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap3start.jpg)

Hmm The pics for my score for chap 2 was gone , hope they come back and its just an imageshack trubbel right now .
Let me know if i have to do something about them .
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 11, 2010, 08:52:05 AM
Here's my score for Fenris Chap III :

(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7510/fenrischap3end.th.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap3end.jpg)(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4940/fenrischap3endgraph.th.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap3endgraph.jpg)

Did get all the survivors =)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 11, 2010, 09:40:11 AM
I checked the graphs on your C2 score, SPIFFEN, no sweat =)

Now to submit a first score of mine XD Almost didn't make it before the Spores hit D:
(http://img37.imageshack.us/img37/2356/33373502.th.jpg) (http://img37.imageshack.us/i/33373502.jpg/)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 12, 2010, 07:58:30 AM
Anyone have an nice start pic for chap IV ?

Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 12, 2010, 09:49:00 AM
I'd always recommend moving the City up one level (it's almost impossible to hold the lower plane). The safest way to play this is with a stalemate and then amassing forces to take one elevation level after another. This would be the most basic infrastructure for the start:
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/8352/13406330.th.jpg) (http://img402.imageshack.us/i/13406330.jpg/)
The wall will first be breached after about 1:40 minutes, but once it's all down two mortars can't hold it. The area between the two mortars close to Baldur will slowly fill up with Creeper (well, it's gonna rise everywhere, but there it's most notable), so an occasional drone bombing is needed. Better play safe then sorry with the Spores on this map.
There's probably a better start, but this works out pretty fine.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 13, 2010, 08:41:34 AM
He he still in trubbel , do you have an next pic =P
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 13, 2010, 11:55:19 AM
Sure :P Just ran the start again.
(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/6808/70286077.th.jpg) (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/70286077.jpg/)
I advanced the collector infrastruture here, with some gaps though, and connected the mountain-collectors with the drone and reactor. On the first screen, I'm about to move the SAM down south, since all Spores were about to hit that area, none caused any damage. On the second screen you can see by the colour that the Creeper grew thick, so I launched the drone shortly after and moved the SAM at Baldur up north due to the 9 incoming Spores. The next step (in my playstile) would be amassing reactors and drones, while building up to 10 SAMs and then starting to take the planes. For that I'd build an additonal set of mortars, some blasters to secure the ground, and bombard the lower areas with about 10 drones (at least). The Mortars would be moved to the new front-line, firing at the deep Creeper, while the blasters secure the elevation level from any thin Creeper that's left behind. Since we're closer to the spawns now, the blasters would move up to the mortars once their work is done to keep the frontline stable and more drones and reactors get build to incap the Emitters from afar before the next blaster/mortar attack.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: rugrast on January 13, 2010, 05:43:42 PM
There is no possible way for me to not get hit by the spores.
Any suggestions?

On the first wave I got hit once, which killed a reactor.
On the third wave, I got hit once which wiped me out.
I have at least four SAMs but I can't keep them off me.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 13, 2010, 06:16:54 PM
Quote from: rugrast on January 13, 2010, 05:43:42 PM
There is no possible way for me to not get hit by the spores.
Any suggestions?

On the first wave I got hit once, which killed a reactor.
On the third wave, I got hit once which wiped me out.
I have at least four SAMs but I can't keep them off me.

Build more SAMs.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: rugrast on January 13, 2010, 08:37:07 PM
I don't have enough energy.  I've got a collecter network as best I can and reactor sap alot of energy.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 13, 2010, 08:39:45 PM
There should be enough energy to build a SAM and a reactor at the same time without running low on ammuniton. Other then that, it's always a good thing (especially on the first waves) to pause once the Spores come in and move your SAMs. There's a chance that some areas won't be hit - so those SAMs can be used where the Spores actually drop. If your main problem really is just the energy you get, you probably already chose the +10% energy production and -10% building cost nanobot-upgrades?
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: rugrast on January 13, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
I was building a drone far too early.

I'm in a semi stalemate right now, but I think I've got it.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 14, 2010, 06:42:44 AM
Karsten75
You can Modify / Edit your posts ,
then you can change what pics you put in your posts .

I like pics in the forum , but very large pics is bad .
An small pic is better ,
just click it to get an bigger one if you want to study it =P
( even if it opens an new window , the forum looks better then )

Use Thumbnail Code for Forums . ( [ URL . . . [ / URL ] )
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 14, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
Need an guide to make this map ,
i cant make it so i need some good help =P
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Alwego on January 14, 2010, 03:54:53 PM
Quote from: SPIFFEN on January 14, 2010, 09:22:28 AM
Need an guide to make this map ,
i cant make it so i need some good help =P

http://alwego.elock.com.pl/cw/custom/Fenris_Chapter_IV.avi
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: rugrast on January 14, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
Alright.  I FINALLY beat Fenris--Chapter IV.  It took me FOREVER.  My score was in the 3000s.   Haha.
Well, you've done an absolutely superb job thus far.  Thanks for a nice mini campaign and you'd better keep it going!
Haha  ;D
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 14, 2010, 11:04:45 PM
Fenris I again, slightly better.

(http://i50.tinypic.com/20z4akz.jpg) (http://i49.tinypic.com/3356upt.jpg) (http://i46.tinypic.com/25afs.jpg) (http://i46.tinypic.com/2cgn4vm.jpg)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 14, 2010, 11:42:19 PM
http://188.40.159.140/Fenris_Chapter_IV.avi
[/quote]
Didnt work , could hear the music .

Is there a recomended player for avi files ,
other than WinMP ?
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 15, 2010, 12:15:41 AM
Quote from: SPIFFEN on January 14, 2010, 11:42:19 PM
http://188.40.159.140/Fenris_Chapter_IV.avi
Didnt work , could hear the music .

Is there a recomended player for avi files ,
other than WinMP ?
[/quote]

Try downloading DivX and installing its codec pack. Once you do that almost all media players will use it.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Xylnalya on January 15, 2010, 05:57:57 AM
DivX works fine for me.

Well played Alwego =)

Lotta mortars Karsten XD
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Siccles on January 15, 2010, 06:19:05 AM
Karsten you built about 3 times as many towers as you needed :P
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 15, 2010, 09:33:03 AM
Thx for the tips =) , i finaly made the map .
The video help me alot , so i got the start right =)
Then i did it my way , and ended with this :

My score for chap 4 :
(http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/9412/fenrischap4end.th.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap4end.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/7982/fenrischap4endgraph.th.jpg) (http://img339.imageshack.us/my.php?image=fenrischap4endgraph.jpg)

Yes i know that my way is low score and slow ,
but maybe someday i'll do as good as the rest of you =)
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: Karsten75 on January 15, 2010, 05:38:40 PM
Fenris IV: Final artifact dialog: Commander, ....Once your work is done there, we'll have a safe spot for you to land your City.
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: CyberDyneSystems on January 17, 2010, 05:10:08 PM
Whoa, finally managed to finish Fenris 4.
Long time, 37:07 = 6,177 score.
Happy just to have made it :)
Awesome map!
Title: Re: Fenris Series - Highscores & Achievements
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 29, 2010, 07:16:18 AM
Little action here , anyone have some pics for some maps here ?
Need for part 5 and 7 =)

SORRY , i've been asking for help in the wrong thread =P