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Title: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: AutoPost on August 30, 2020, 02:31:50 AM
This topic is for discussion of map #8830: RVC-13
(https://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=8830)

Author: yum234
Size: 256x101

Desc:
Next step in experimentation with Ralfsaft Volcano Concept. Players can use not only Conversion Bombs against flippable Volcanoes but also we introduced new unit: Umbrella which can protect inside ring area from creeper stones. Umbrella even convert evil creeper stones into friendly AC stones and can be moved! :) In combination with unlimited Forge and Thor which can destroy creeper stones i hope it will be enjoyable time of playing this game.
Title: Re: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: TrickyPlayer on August 30, 2020, 06:32:37 AM
Way too laggy and volcanos create way too much creeper stones, each also having way too much health. 7/10 rating to script, it needs improvements. Instead of spamming like 60 creeper stones, 6 ones with 10 times the health and payload would do almost the same thing, with 10 times less lag. You could add excess stones (0.3 stones for example) to the next eruption. I'm not even talking about the whole balancing overall, which really isn't too great either. Maybe the script just isn't used correctly, but I think that in terms of balancing/usefulness even my own volcano script is more versatile, and that script only has 1 page of code. (if not less) Maybe the script used in this level can't be changed, but I see a lot of things that have room for improvement. I even made a list of them:
Spoiler
Possible change 1: how much does creeper under the volcano increase the stone amount? This should be a variable that can be set from the editor (though not super important)
Change 2: The things mentioned above, but also add a cap to the amount of creeper stones on the screen. I think 100 works fine, as having over 100 creeper stones really lags.
This is pretty much all I see for now.
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Redirect this message to the creator of the used script please. TrickyPlayer made this post, so don't shoot the messenger.
Title: Re: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: Johnny Haywire on August 31, 2020, 01:35:30 PM
I really like this concept, but as Tricky mentioned earlier the lag is just too bad.

Also, the fact that these are easily flippable by using sprayer-bombers kinda takes the fun away from what could be a potentially challenging map. Once you convert the four volcanoes in the middle the game is essentially won. 

But I do like the idea of what are essentially super-spores that don't simply target structures. And I like that they aren't fluffy spores that die in a nanosecond. The concept is very, very enjoyable (to me, at least) and I hope you keep developing it!

Thanks for the map!  ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: yum-forum on September 14, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Fresh video from Sphayter:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQzzKdFZR4
Title: Re: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: TrickyPlayer on September 14, 2020, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: yum-forum on September 14, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Fresh video from PRG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQzzKdFZR4

uhh pretty sure that's not PRG?

Edit: Is PRG and Sphayter the same?
Title: Re: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: yum-forum on September 14, 2020, 11:43:43 AM
Quote from: TrickyPlayer on September 14, 2020, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: yum-forum on September 14, 2020, 11:16:54 AM
Fresh video from PRG:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJQzzKdFZR4

uhh pretty sure that's not PRG?

Edit: Is PRG and Sphayter the same?


P.S.  TrickyPlayer, thanks!!!
WOW! My bad! PRG is good VideoBloger but it was my mistake!  :-[
Title: Re: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: yum-forum on October 13, 2020, 01:01:13 PM
Fresh video from DarkRubberNeck:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thmmGCbjxvM&t=112s
Title: Re: Custom Map #8830: RVC-13. By: yum234
Post by: yum-forum on October 13, 2020, 01:09:38 PM
If somebody want it is possible to create remake of this map without lag problems.