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Particle Fleet => Pre-release chatter => Topic started by: Karsten75 on June 01, 2016, 07:03:26 AM

Poll
Question: Would you pay a premium to participate in an early Beta of Particle Fleet (next game)?
Option 1: I am not interested in Beta participation votes: 1
Option 2: I would have to be paid to perform Beta testing activities votes: 1
Option 3: I would pay less than the market price of the game to Beta test the game votes: 11
Option 4: I would pay full price of the game for a Beta copy votes: 25
Option 5: I would pay between 1 and two times the market price for a Beta copy votes: 2
Option 6: I would pay more than 2x the market price for a Beta copy votes: 1
Title: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Karsten75 on June 01, 2016, 07:03:26 AM
This poll is unofficial and unsanctioned. If Virgil sees it, he may remove it.

I was wondering if those people that are eager to get the game would be willing to pay a price premium to be involved in the early testing of the game. At best your name would appear in the game credits. Some early maps you make may appear in a special section of the game. No other rewards or recognition will be forthcoming.

For this you would have to play several missions many times over, your game progress gets wiped a few times and you suffer from more bugs and an unbalanced game at some point in time during development.

You are also prohibited from talking about the game, making videos, screenshots or in any other way release information on the game during development.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: GoodMorning on June 01, 2016, 07:22:50 AM
I can't commit to the time needed, so I will have patience.

The chance to give early feedback would be more than enough for me, were I in a position to do this.

It feels like the Creeper Nation will step up to the mark, though.

If nothing else, pay-for-beta might be a way to donate-to-KnuckleCracker as has bee requested before.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: jaworeq on June 01, 2016, 08:53:31 AM
I'm not a fan of early access, or what it became lately, but there is a bunch of studios that do it properly. Games like Factorio, Kerbal Space Program or Prison Architect did just that, I bought all of them in early access and I'm happy with my purchase.
I feel the same about PF, that's why I would be willing to buy it and play/test early. Hence, the full price answer.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: mzimmer74 on June 01, 2016, 12:02:02 PM
Assuming that paying the full price of the game for a beta copy gets me a full game when it comes out then yes, I would pay full price (since I'll be buying the game anyway).  Not sure how much testing I'd be able to do though.  I'm not a map maker (tried once...that was enough) but do like playing other people's maps.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Fireball14 on June 01, 2016, 03:31:45 PM
If i get full game eventually i would pay full price.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: 4xC on June 04, 2016, 03:16:13 PM
On one hand, I would be quite willing to pay full price for the beta version if it meant I would get the final copy free.

On the other hand, I got into CW3 beta as a MapMod from CW2 and subsequently got CW3 beta access and the final copy for free, plus a free Steam key. So I don't know for sure if I would pay any more than full game price for a beta key; it probably would be with the expectation that I would get the final copy for free. Beyond that, I guess I can part with somthing less than the full price as extra for having early access.

Whether I would actually want financial returns or not depends on how much is asked of testers by comparison to how much was asked for CW3.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Nebulous on June 04, 2016, 05:15:47 PM
Well, based on how much the game is finished, the beta testers wouldn't have much to worry about. It's basically: here's a mistake; fix it. Here's a mistake; fix it. This part of the game could be better; make it something like ___.

The beta version is made for updates and upgrades. The testers are there to spot the problems the developers can't see.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: strigvir on June 05, 2016, 08:12:12 AM
Why is the second option even a thing? It is [THE CURRENT YEAR], beta-testers should pay to beta-test.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: planetfall on June 05, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: strigvir on June 05, 2016, 08:12:12 AM
Why is the second option even a thing? It is [THE CURRENT YEAR], beta-testers should pay to beta-test.

Tell that to all paid QA people.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: SuperTerminator on June 05, 2016, 06:14:49 PM
Quote from: planetfall on June 05, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: strigvir on June 05, 2016, 08:12:12 AM
Why is the second option even a thing? It is [THE CURRENT YEAR], beta-testers should pay to beta-test.

Tell that to all paid QA people.

Some development studios hire professionals to test virtually every aspect of the game and its engine to see exactly what can be/needs to be fixed.

As to the topic, a paid beta would be cool, but I don't see a reason for virgilw to actually make a beta because the game is too small of a scale to have many elements that require a high number of testers.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: hbarudi on June 07, 2016, 06:55:36 PM
Do wish to beta test this game or any game. From the videos it looks like the game is so close yet still have some left before completion.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: bobthebike on June 09, 2016, 08:46:56 AM
Going by the Quality and support for previous games,  it should be grand.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Vanguard on July 26, 2016, 09:57:32 AM
Quote from: planetfall on June 05, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: strigvir on June 05, 2016, 08:12:12 AM
Why is the second option even a thing? It is [THE CURRENT YEAR], beta-testers should pay to beta-test.

Tell that to all paid QA people.

Which currently is exactly my job. Yes, I get paid to test computergames. Dreamjob, right? Wrrooonnnggg!

After the hundreth iteration of the same scenario, to try and recreate this one specific bug, you are ready to throw yourself of a cliff. Thrust me. Luckily, I get to code as well so it´s not as bad and I can go ahead and fix the bugs myself for a good part.  8)
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Fireball14 on July 26, 2016, 10:09:11 AM
Quote from: Vanguard on July 26, 2016, 09:57:32 AM
Quote from: planetfall on June 05, 2016, 09:26:42 AM
Quote from: strigvir on June 05, 2016, 08:12:12 AM
Why is the second option even a thing? It is [THE CURRENT YEAR], beta-testers should pay to beta-test.

Tell that to all paid QA people.

Which currently is exactly my job. Yes, I get paid to test computergames. Dreamjob, right? Wrrooonnnggg!
Yeh, same here. After playing my game for 4000 time, its a little...boring.

After the hundreth iteration of the same scenario, to try and recreate this one specific bug, you are ready to throw yourself of a cliff. Thrust me. Luckily, I get to code as well so it´s not as bad and I can go ahead and fix the bugs myself for a good part.  8)
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Sorrontis on July 29, 2016, 07:00:29 PM
I didn't vote, but if there's a beta, I would join depending on the price (I'll pay up to full price - assuming I get the game once the official comes out). KC's work is great and I want to support it. But if virgil will give it to me free, I won't say no :P
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: TripleKings on July 30, 2016, 12:57:40 PM
The poll shouldn't be over yet, it isn't 1:50 PM yet. Why can't I vote? Well, either way, I would pay full price.
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Builder17 on July 30, 2016, 01:24:48 PM
I think poll ending time is in america time. Right?  :-\
Title: Re: Unofficial Beta Poll
Post by: Karsten75 on July 30, 2016, 02:32:26 PM
Consult your calendar, not your clock

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