This topic is for discussion of map #3215: Mess as player
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Author: builder17
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#CRPL #Losetowin #MAPMode
Script under. :)
Don't nullify these enemy units or you can't win.
Nice map, but if I didn't read forum, I wouldn't know the victory condition. And creeper flow was toooooo slow. Even after CNs were in orbit, I had to wait like 30 game-minutes.
Not meaning to be overly negative, but why the confusing CRPL when you could have at least taken ten minutes to write a short explanation in game. If you go through all the hazzle, going the extra mile would pay off tremendously.
I liked the concept as finding the most effective way to lose the fastest :D
I agree with Vanguard though, you should probably pop in some clear instructions with your maps.
SetUnitSelectableOverride is useful one. And yeah , instructions could also prevent rating 1:s?
I liked this fresh idea.
I don't think it should be repeated, though. It is too specialized for that.
O man how do you win? i heard dont nulify the creepers buildings
You need help creeper to take down your buildings to win. Try terping terrain 10 walls down and destroying your units you can destroy.
Interesting idea but a bit buggy. I use the mouse and drag to select units. I found I could regularly select the fixed units and just fly them into trouble, most of the time I could not select them.
The main challenge was at the end, spores don't appear to target ore mines so unless you use a terp to target the spore (or build collectors next to the mines) you end up with the 30 minute wait for completion as mentioned.
Finally a loser. Man the last time I played lowball was with a deck of cards. I've spent too much time on this map. First I killed the enemy, nothing happened. Second I killed the enemy and myself, nothing happened. Third time I said let me see. I know you said #losetowin but wasn't exactly sure what that meant. I don't know how anybody lost in less than 20 minutes or won whatever. If you do this again at least put the creeper on a hill so it can flow down and kill everybody.
Quote from: walr688 on March 02, 2016, 07:59:30 AM
I don't know how anybody lost in less than 20 minutes or won whatever.
You have to do all the things you would normally not do. What I did was:
- build terps to lower the wall
- terp a wall around cannons and sprayers
- energy starvation: build numerous guppies to fly into creeper. When they explode the energy is gone.
How could I do this idea less specialized? :)
Any idea anybody?
Edit:If I do new map with same idea , I will prevent players using build menus with GetCurrentBuildTab and ShowMessage.
Just disable the units you don't want players to build.
Add a near-infinite/regenerating energy crystal.
Add something that forces player to engage the creeper in certain places or to direct it with shields.
Make a CRPL unit that requests packets and makes creeper in return.
Like the 'impossible to lose' map I lost, make players actively waste AC.
Add a creeper sink that removes all creeper from it's cell every frame.
Just make sure you can't lose without doing anything or when only doing non-creeper related things.
I might even use this concept sometime with some of the ideas above...
Lol , I almost dropped off my chair , when I understand there is unit limits menu build in game. ;D
Energy + ore crystal sounds very good idea , also these other ideas are nice. :WOW
If this is like help creeper mode and similar to PAC mode , could PAC maps have nice ideas to use? 8)