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Title: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: AutoPost on August 21, 2015, 10:35:09 AM
This topic is for discussion of map #2418: Elo elo
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=2418)

Author: Your mom
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Sorrontis on August 21, 2015, 11:27:18 AM
No point in playing this map, there's no challenge. You have to wait a significant amount of time before you even can start nullifying things. The walls are in the way. By the time the first 2 sets of walls are removed, a fully operational base would be set up.

I would say, remove the map, and republish without the walls. Would make things more interesting.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 21, 2015, 12:01:55 PM
I played it 4 or 5 times, actually, and enjoyed the challenge of trying to beat my time each time. As a speed run map, this was actually particularly fun. My score is currently #1 and I might extend a friendly challenge to you to see if you can beat my time.  8)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: radd on August 21, 2015, 12:27:53 PM
Beat you by 0.1 stdout! :)

I agree with what you say, though.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Sorrontis on August 21, 2015, 12:36:10 PM
Quote from: stdout on August 21, 2015, 12:01:55 PM
I played it 4 or 5 times, actually, and enjoyed the challenge of trying to beat my time each time. As a speed run map, this was actually particularly fun. My score is currently #1 and I might extend a friendly challenge to you to see if you can beat my time.  8)

Really? A recommendation from mr stdout means I will try it.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: D0m0nik on August 21, 2015, 01:10:57 PM
Sorry Radd, took another 0.2 off your score :D

It was fun to take on Helpers challenge but all three of us used exactly the same method and exactly the same upgrades (I suspect) so kind of limited map. All good fun though.

Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 21, 2015, 01:25:04 PM
Hate to disappoint you both but you're going to need to go back and shave 0.6 seconds to tie me.  ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: D0m0nik on August 21, 2015, 01:31:03 PM
It's on!

And whatever we ultimately get Alter Old will come and shave 30 seconds off!
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 21, 2015, 01:37:18 PM
Quote from: D0m0nik on August 21, 2015, 01:31:03 PM
It's on!

And whatever we ultimately get Alter Old will come and shave 30 seconds off!

So true!
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: D0m0nik on August 21, 2015, 01:46:22 PM
1.5 1.7 seconds stdout 'pronounced whilst leaning against the fire place with whisky and cigar in hand'  ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 21, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
Ouch!! I may not be able to beat this new time! (But I'll give it my best.)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: D0m0nik on August 21, 2015, 01:59:06 PM
We were all missing an obvious trick!
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 21, 2015, 02:00:13 PM
Well, I just tied you. Hand the cigar over.  :)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: D0m0nik on August 21, 2015, 02:06:29 PM
haha, your welcome to it!

I think I should pinch top spot alphabetically though ;)

Always fun to have a bit of a contest, this was definitely a good map for it.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 21, 2015, 02:41:09 PM
I enjoyed myself.

I just tried 5 times to shave another hair off and I just couldn't do it. I'll wait til Alter Old gets here and he'll show us how this game is played.  ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: radd on August 21, 2015, 04:54:27 PM
I was away for a while but I'm back now and I think I caught up with you guys.

When its the same score, how is it ordered? is it ordered by 100ths of a second and just not shown?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Sorrontis on August 21, 2015, 04:58:08 PM
I think it's last to have submitted gets the first spot. Or the other way around
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 21, 2015, 05:39:13 PM
I think Sorrontis is right.

Dp was first to reach 2:32.3, then I did, and finally you did, and that's the reverse of how they are currently shown.

That, or it's alphabetical (with upper case appearing after the lower case a-z names are shown.)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Sorrontis on August 21, 2015, 08:16:04 PM
Of course, alterold is at 2:32.1

I can't speed up past 2:35.x ... I'm assuming I need to upgrade fire rate higher. Is there an optimal balance - packet speed, build speed, fire rate.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: warren on August 21, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
That is weird, lexigraphically, capital letters are before lowercase letters.

Edit: I also give up: Alter_Old, what did you do?

@Sorrontis
Spoiler
Have you heard of the CN flyover trick?
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Sorrontis on August 21, 2015, 10:20:30 PM
Of course, I just tend to forget about it. That would shave off a second or too. Thank you for the reminder!
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Alter Old on August 22, 2015, 06:43:33 PM
Quote from: warren on August 21, 2015, 09:52:29 PM
Edit: I also give up: Alter_Old, what did you do?
I did everything the same as radd, stdout, Dp and you, War. I think three or four frame won at the expense of more accurate positioning. If you want to put someone video and we all find out.
  Frames

#
  Player
  Frames 
1
Alter Old
4566
2
radd
4569
3
stdout
4569
4
Dp
4569
5
War
4570
6
Helper
4601
7
Sorrontis
4602
...
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: warren on August 22, 2015, 07:16:56 PM
Ah, how did you get that frame count? I think I can manage four frames if I really tried.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 22, 2015, 07:57:01 PM
It's in the raw network data that is transferred when you view the scores, in the <time> tag.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 22, 2015, 08:17:01 PM
I just went back and replayed it again, this time finally shaving another 0.1 seconds from my time. I'm still another 0.1 seconds behind Alter Old.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Sorrontis on August 22, 2015, 08:28:06 PM
Quote from: stdout on August 22, 2015, 08:17:01 PM
I just went back and replayed it again, this time finally shaving another 0.1 seconds from my time. I'm still another 0.1 seconds behind Alter Old.
you guys(and ladies) are insane! I'm happy where I am :P
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: D0m0nik on August 23, 2015, 06:15:42 AM
I think to get the best possible time you have to keep your CN exactly over the nullifier, I am lazy and let it drift a bit past each way and I still got bored!
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: warren on August 23, 2015, 07:44:35 AM
If only it weren't covered by a ginormous command node... You only need the command node over top precisely precisely twice. Once when the last build packet is sent, and once when the last ammo packet is sent.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: stdout on August 23, 2015, 09:49:20 AM
War I see you joined Alter Old. Congratulations to you both, you are the kings of CW3.  ;)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2418: Elo elo. By: Your mom
Post by: Insane_Insomniac444 on October 05, 2016, 10:47:06 AM
well, my time wasn't very good, then I got bored and set up some sprayers...and forgot I left the level running for about 17 hours...AC 600+ everywhere (except in the void of course, but void don't flow til 500+ anyways)