Knuckle Cracker

Creeper World => Gameplay Discussion => Topic started by: knucracker on December 27, 2009, 04:01:18 PM

Title: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: knucracker on December 27, 2009, 04:01:18 PM
NoobSauce and Aurzel have been kind enough to setup and contribute to a wikia page for KC and CW.
http://knucklecracker.wikia.com/wiki/Knuckle_Cracker_Wiki

I don't own this page, everyone does.  So contribute, edit, and use to your hearts content.  I've just updated the turrets page with some stats for each weapon that you may find interesting.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Mrmcdeath on December 27, 2009, 05:23:39 PM
I made two pages. One for The Creeper and one for Odin City. I forgot to make an account before doing so. :-[
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Aurzel on December 27, 2009, 05:43:35 PM
you can always make an account and save the page without editing anything, hopefully that'll save your name to it
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on December 28, 2009, 02:35:01 AM
I've added some information for the "Information Needed on the main page, and added 'Blaster' category and some info for collector. I've added a mark wherever i've added info so you know it's mine  ;).
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: NoobSauce on December 28, 2009, 08:41:46 PM
@virgilw: I have some questions about game mechanics:

How much energy (no upgrades) does a green square that a collector makes produce?
How much energy (no upgraded) does a reactor produce?
How many squares are the connections between:
* Collectors and anything
* Relays and Relays
* Blasters and (? -- I think they can connect to anything, but it might just be that they can connect to collectors and bridge gaps in between them?)


And signing your edits in the wiki is bad and unnecessary -- if we want to know who said what, there's always the page history.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Aurzel on December 28, 2009, 08:55:39 PM
noob's right, we want this to feel like a group effort, not a bunch of individuals :D
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on December 28, 2009, 09:26:48 PM
Ok, well right now if anyone could help me making wiki pages for each planet, i'd be thankful.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: knucracker on December 28, 2009, 11:56:13 PM
Quote from: NoobSauce on December 28, 2009, 08:41:46 PM
@virgilw: I have some questions about game mechanics:

I'll try to get these filled in tomorrow....
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: NoobSauce on December 29, 2009, 01:40:09 AM
Thanks Virgil.

And, personally, I think if we're gonna have each planet on its own page, we're gonna need an in-depth strategy guide for each planet.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on December 29, 2009, 03:01:21 AM
I've just completed the Cetus and Ara planet pages.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Aurzel on December 29, 2009, 08:41:11 AM
i'm saying it's better to get a quick strategy for each then we can go back and go indepth
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: NoobSauce on December 29, 2009, 03:35:23 PM
That's one of the things Wikia recommends -- starting new pages with a little bit of content so that other users can just add content little by little and make full articles.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: knucracker on December 29, 2009, 04:08:35 PM
I agree... I'm so busy that it is much easier for me to stop by on a page that already exists and fill in some technical details, rather than think about creating a page to start with.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Aurzel on December 29, 2009, 04:24:50 PM
yep, thats the idea behind it, soon we'll have a bustling wiki capable of answering most questions people ask about gameplay, it'll certainly cut down on new threads and questions about maps :P
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on December 30, 2009, 03:38:31 AM
I need someone to finish Pavo and the rest, i've just finished the Vela Wiki Page, and the Level.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Kamron3 on December 30, 2009, 03:46:15 AM
I also put down Knuckle Cracker on wikipedia under a list of Indie Devs and Creeper World in a list of Games.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_indie_game_developers <- added you to a list here.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_websites <- added you to a list here

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuckle_Cracker <- needs to be made.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creeper_World <- needs to be made.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Karsten75 on December 30, 2009, 07:03:21 PM
It seems the wiki will not allow upload of .png image files?
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Aurzel on December 30, 2009, 07:04:33 PM
use jpeg, that works and it's fast
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Karsten75 on December 30, 2009, 07:07:38 PM
Quote from: Aurzel on December 30, 2009, 07:04:33 PM
use jpeg, that works and it's fast

I use png for the reason it is much smaller and faster than jpg. and royalty-free as opposed to .gif.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on December 30, 2009, 08:47:21 PM
I always thought jpg files were smaller than png files. I had a 500kb png file, and i converted it to a jpg, and it was about 80-150 kb big.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Karsten75 on December 30, 2009, 09:43:45 PM
Quote from: Dranar on December 30, 2009, 08:47:21 PM
I always thought jpg files were smaller than png files. I had a 500kb png file, and i converted it to a jpg, and it was about 80-150 kb big.

Hmmm.... I always thought .png were best for web-based images since they were superior to .gif which was smallest. Now you had me go and look and I can't find a good comparison on the web. SO what I'll do is to create three screengrabs and see. I may change what I do.

For information here is the .png FAQ (http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/pngintro.html).

Update:

Wow, I took screenshots of the Creeper World Home (http://i49.tinypic.com/ornx2r.jpg) screen using Sprint32 and this is the results:

.png: 693KB
.gif: 538KB
.jpg: 124KB
.bmp: 5,189KB


Guess I'll change the default way I take screenshots....
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: jecowa on December 30, 2009, 10:05:15 PM
Jpgs are better for some things, and pngs are better for others. Pngs would probably be best for screen shots of Creeper World if the backgrounds of the maps were a solid color, but since the backgrounds of the maps are usually detailed textures, jpgs are more suitable.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Mrmcdeath on December 30, 2009, 10:12:34 PM
Epic Fail...  ;)
Sorry couldn't help it...
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: NoobSauce on December 30, 2009, 11:45:16 PM
What part of "don't sign your gorramn edits" is unclear to you?  Adding feldercarbty information that doesn't even exist and then bragging that you made it up yourself does not count as "contributing"!

edit: wtf does feldercarbty mean. I prefer Firefly.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on December 31, 2009, 02:30:06 AM
Here's the snapshot program i use. My dad made it  ;)

http://www.toptensoftware.com/snapshot/
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: DanTheGoodMan on December 31, 2009, 04:23:34 AM
Shouldn't the quality of the compression mess with the size? that PNG might be higher encoded, but I don't know, just guessing.

Also, I thought everybody just used Print Screen!
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Aurzel on December 31, 2009, 06:30:49 AM
i just print screen, copy to paint and save as jpeg
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Karsten75 on December 31, 2009, 09:55:55 AM
Quote from: DanTheGoodMan on December 31, 2009, 04:23:34 AM
Shouldn't the quality of the compression mess with the size? that PNG might be higher encoded, but I don't know, just guessing.

Also, I thought everybody just used Print Screen!


Yes, the program used to capture the image does make a difference. But that opens up a can of worms (maybe this entire portion of the thread can be split off the wiki thread?).

I use ScreenPrint32 because I can set it to capture an area (like the CW window) and save it to disk with a number. SO I can simply press Prt-Sc as many times as I want and I get a series of images I don't need to edit before uploading.  Saves the steps of going through Paint or something esle to save the images.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on December 31, 2009, 10:18:54 PM
I'm currently having ALOT of difficulty with  a forum that i've made for strategy guides on the wiki page.

What i'm trying to do is removing the

http://knucklecracker.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Custom_Maps_Guides

page that I have moved after making a page called Pla...

Let me start again.

It's kind of confusing, but i've made a forum called planet list and I have accidently made it in the Strategy Guides Page, instead of the Planet Guides Page.

So I tried deleting it, but I couldn't figure out how, so I clicked "Move" and I could only change the name, so I changed it to "Custom Map Guides".

Then I went to the Planet Guides page and tried creating the forum called Planet List, but it still exists where the Custom Map Guides is.

So right now I cant actually delete the planet list forum, so I think I need an admin to fix it.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: NoobSauce on December 31, 2009, 11:42:59 PM
I'll delete the forum.  If you need it back suddenly, holler and I can undelete it.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on January 01, 2010, 01:06:36 AM
Ok, Thanks.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: NoobSauce on January 01, 2010, 03:32:03 PM
I noticed you tried to drop a chatbox on a page...  I think you might need to go over the instructions again, it says something about putting it in /ip$ or something.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on January 01, 2010, 06:48:28 PM
Yeah, i'm still trying to do it  >:(.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on January 01, 2010, 08:09:04 PM
Quote from: NoobSauce on December 31, 2009, 11:42:59 PM
I'll delete the forum.  If you need it back suddenly, holler and I can undelete it.

I've just tried adding planet list to the forum Strategy Guides > Planet Guides, but it adds the planet list page in the Strategy Guides page, not the Planet Guides page.  :-\

I don't really know how all this html stuff works  :).\

Can someone fix it for me? Thanks.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: DukeEgr93 on January 03, 2010, 01:07:08 PM
Quick Question for Virgil - are you OK with screenshots of the different planets/layouts from the core game on the wiki or would you prefer to reserve those for folks who register their copy?  I wanted to ask before spending a lot of time screenshotting and uploading  :)
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: knucracker on January 03, 2010, 01:52:53 PM
Any screen shots should be fine to add to the wiki.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Siccles on January 03, 2010, 04:06:15 PM
short question: is it possible to put embed videos on the wiki page? if yes I would like to do some how-to videos for the missions.

But i dont know how to record the game in video form, so could someone please give me a guide for it?

Mfg
Siccles

edit: guide isnot needed anymore, ive found a tool and tested it, and it works perfectly.

But i still need confirmation that videos (if yes --- which formats?) can be embed on the wikipedia page, otherwise it makes no sense to start recording.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Dranar on January 04, 2010, 07:45:54 PM
Yeh, it has a video option on it. When you edit a page, it has a little format bar and stuff at the top. It's next to the insert picture button.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: archn on January 27, 2010, 05:36:16 AM
Just checked it out - looks good.  I hope to add some content if I get a chance one day in the future.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: crazyone76 on February 10, 2010, 03:33:22 AM
it doesnt gets updated much
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: NoobSauce on February 10, 2010, 02:27:56 PM
And whose fault is that?

Anyway, the wiki isn't going to grow if people don't edit it.  I only really pay attention to the wiki when there's a recent edit - I can't fill up all those pages at once.  Much easier for me to spellcheck the recent edits.
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: kiddo150 on February 28, 2010, 08:08:04 AM
I finished the section about Loki 12-14 minutes ago :D

It even has the strategy I used for that map. ;)
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 10, 2011, 10:31:12 PM
Maybe the WIKI would be used more if it was easyier to find ?
( An link to it on the forum mainpage might help )

And there are some post in the forum that could be added to it i think ,
like how to make an custom background and so on ... ( if it is'nt there already =P )

Sorry , just wanted to bump this , so maybe someone start useing it =)
Title: Re: Knuckle Cracker Wiki
Post by: Michionlion on January 10, 2011, 10:54:22 PM
yeah, i've been updating it, trying to get a couple vids on and updated some of the planets.  a link onthe home page would be really useful too.