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Creeper World 3 => The Outer Sectors => Topic started by: PMouser on July 14, 2014, 06:49:47 PM

Title: My first tormentor map.
Post by: PMouser on July 14, 2014, 06:49:47 PM
help please, i just cant beat it, thanks
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Grayzzur on July 14, 2014, 07:00:33 PM
Which one? We're a helpful group, but I don't think any of the members are psychic.

System and planet name to identify the map, please. (example: S200_53 - Langkao)
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: PMouser on July 15, 2014, 02:03:08 AM
aliancasterer. S200_0
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 15, 2014, 02:33:47 AM
It is super hard, and took me a few tries to get a good start going. Starting all the way on that rised cirle platform, i placed my mode to the left, and got a collecter at the top and sorta side lower right. i expand the collecter down till i could reach the shore, and build a forge there, and also build a reactor. From there, it a bit trial and luck for me. A mortar, to aim at the other ore area in that pool help and a blaster on the raiser area near your ore help and to start building beam towers. all in all, i had 7, like 3 near my node and 3 more near my forge, and ore miner a mortar near the cn help and so does a sprayer, for some control without power. All forge upgrades to nergy, and I was in the Red almost the whole time doing this, as though sport towers come quickly.


Click here (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=286339612) to se a pic of my foothold, once i was secure,
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: PMouser on July 15, 2014, 07:36:55 PM
i still cant do this. so can you give me the order of when you put in the buildings? i just cant keep the creeper back
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 15, 2014, 11:50:02 PM
I'll try, but it a bit tricky.
I start like this, and try not to go into engery lost to fast, by building slowly.
CLICK HERE! (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=286762202)
I make my way down, once the collecters finish, i will place the forge and then start to build reactors also.
CLCIK HERE! (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=286762211)
I get a couple weapon set up to help
ClickHere (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=286762227)
I will also get a mortal next to the cn, after that, i will start to get 7 beams up, though i do get a little energy lost trying to get them up quickly, and from there, just try to get more energy from reactor and forge. I will also get a sprayer, next to cn, to help.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: PMouser on July 16, 2014, 06:43:16 PM
ty, i beat it with your help. so how to do the tormentors as a rule? thanks
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 16, 2014, 11:34:21 PM
I don't have a rule, lol, they are just that hard, heh. Keep a eye on the time, some are supposed to be not beatable, and that may help you decide.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: PMouser on July 18, 2014, 01:48:47 AM
that is sad, they made some imposible
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 18, 2014, 08:04:17 AM
Someone knows this better then me, but I think I read these are all random, as such, some generated umbeatable.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Lost in Nowhere on July 19, 2014, 01:57:29 PM
An example of one such unbeatable map is Jovencoting, in one of the systems adjacent to the starting system.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: PMouser on July 21, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
ok, i want to complete these for achievements, so how to do so? know there are mposible maps, thanks
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Cavemaniac on July 21, 2014, 10:31:47 PM
Quote from: Tjgalon on July 18, 2014, 08:04:17 AM
Someone knows this better then me, but I think I read these are all random, as such, some generated umbeatable.

They were all generated from a seed - and inevitably, some of them will prove unbeatable, some of them will be 'instant wins', but the rest will give you a game somewhere between very tricky and trivial....

Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 21, 2014, 11:26:00 PM
Quote from: PMouser on July 21, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
ok, i want to complete these for achievements, so how to do so? know there are mposible maps, thanks
You only need to beat 50 of them for the achievement, which is not to hard. 50 inhibitor, worlds, the one with the ! on the planet. I don't know how many sectors there are, but I easily earn the 50, without coming close to all of them.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: PMouser on July 22, 2014, 03:14:18 PM
i cant beat the tormentor i am on, just too much creeper and not enough energy. it is map S200_174 : Auchkao, i tried the 8 high circle and the 10 high bigger place, and cant kill all the creeper to keep it out of base.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 22, 2014, 03:34:36 PM
I will have to check later, but there are other sectors you can try too.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Jallun on July 23, 2014, 01:16:17 PM
Based on my experience, most of these maps are bested with Mortars and shields/cannons when powered by a mass reactor farm. Also, every map makes the Forge act like the Golden Snitch.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 24, 2014, 12:12:22 AM
Quote from: PMouser on July 22, 2014, 03:14:18 PM
i cant beat the tormentor i am on, just too much creeper and not enough energy. it is map S200_174 : Auchkao, i tried the 8 high circle and the 10 high bigger place, and cant kill all the creeper to keep it out of base.
I am not really sure what so hard about this map, to me at least. I build like this really fast so I am sure you can get a good starting here.

CLICK HERE (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=290548412)
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Jallun on July 24, 2014, 09:11:54 AM
Quote from: Tjgalon on July 24, 2014, 12:12:22 AM
Quote from: PMouser on July 22, 2014, 03:14:18 PM
i cant beat the tormentor i am on, just too much creeper and not enough energy. it is map S200_174 : Auchkao, i tried the 8 high circle and the 10 high bigger place, and cant kill all the creeper to keep it out of base.
I am not really sure what so hard about this map, to me at least. I build like this really fast so I am sure you can get a good starting here.

CLICK HERE (http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=290548412)

There's a flaw in that mortar; it can end up disconnected by the runners, leaving you temporarily weakened. I got this instead: (http://i.imgur.com/vbN2Mbi.jpg)

Progress made to give:
(http://i.imgur.com/MypikAd.jpg)

I so love my mortars. ;)
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 24, 2014, 11:44:55 AM
Well, mine was just a start of course, sometimes, things have to change later, lol.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Cavemaniac on July 24, 2014, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: Jallun on July 24, 2014, 09:11:54 AM

There's a flaw in that mortar; it can end up disconnected by the runners, leaving you temporarily weakened.
I so love my mortars. ;)

A neat trick, if you're worried about having your ammo supply to your weapons interrupted by runners, is to land a guppy right next to your unit - the short supply line means that they rarely starve.

Obviously, this opens up a whole bunch of considerations so experiment at your own risk!
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Jallun on July 24, 2014, 10:21:21 PM
Quote from: Cavemaniac on July 24, 2014, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: Jallun on July 24, 2014, 09:11:54 AM

There's a flaw in that mortar; it can end up disconnected by the runners, leaving you temporarily weakened.
I so love my mortars. ;)

A neat trick, if you're worried about having your ammo supply to your weapons interrupted by runners, is to land a guppy right next to your unit - the short supply line means that they rarely starve.

Obviously, this opens up a whole bunch of considerations so experiment at your own risk!

Are guppies excluded from the runner's stunning rule?
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Tjgalon on July 25, 2014, 02:48:48 AM
I never seen a guppy get stun, but anything they are connected to can be stun.
Title: Re: My first tormentor map.
Post by: Cavemaniac on July 25, 2014, 03:50:34 AM
Quote from: Tjgalon on July 25, 2014, 02:48:48 AM
I never seen a guppy get stun, but anything they are connected to can be stun.

Yep - try it for yourselves!

The big thing though is the massively reduced supply line which cuts waste and usually allows a unit to stay sufficiently supplied - particularly if it's a PC on Digi duty - that can keep the runners at bay.