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Title: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 04, 2013, 11:52:49 PM
map : Wave
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This is my first map that I am publishing it uses a simple script to make the wave and might be challenging if completed could someone give me feedback?
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I have made some changes to the map I have added friendly spores, enemy spores, an air exclusion zone, made it so the wave gets harder as it goes and I have taken the super reactor out to provide a more balanced map so good luck
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script:
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# Created on: 12/4/2013 6:33:59 PM
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$creeperadded:10
$minterrain:5
$framedelay:10
$mincreeper:3
1 ->y
while <-y 256 lte
repeat
1 ->x
while <-x 256 lte
repeat

<-x <-y getterrain ->t
if(<-t <-minterrain lte <-t -1 gt and <-x <-y getcreeper <-mincreeper lte and)
<-x <-y <-creeperadded addcreeper
endif
<-x 1 add ->x
endwhile
<-y 1 add ->y
<-framedelay delay
endwhile
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Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Altren on December 05, 2013, 04:50:05 AM
Well, I just played this map and was surprised how easy it was. With Terps there was no challenge at all. I'm not even sure if it was necessary to build many towers. Loads of free energy was odd as well.

I liked idea very much, but you should add some balance to all this. It seems that even without all this free energy at start map can be won without problems, just go straight to end and fill everything with buildings.

You also should look at J's maps in alpha sector, called Creeper Wall (part 1 use similar concept, but wall there move creeper and create new only at it's start). Wall there have much bigger height, so it actually can destroy your base, unlike wall in your map.
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Otterbear on December 05, 2013, 08:55:10 AM
I LOVED it! It was nice to kill some Creeps for a change.  I took the option of TERP-ing the entire southern half of the map(to level 10),...so it took a while.

I'm not sure what all the Anti-Creeper was for. There seemed to be enough power to keep the Creeper at bay without it. HOWEVER, it did give you options if you wanted to use it. Not sure what you would do with it but, there it is.

Some critiques:

Size could be a bit smaller. (Computer started to slow up a bit in the end.)
Wish that higher terrain would stop the wave. I tried to build a wall to block it, but it just went under and kept going. I know that it wouldn't hurt you on higher terrain, but it would go behind that terrain and keep going. Kinda hoping we can change that.  Even if the Creeper would build up and eventually over-run the wall, it would give you a chance to use all the terrain behind it for other such. (Not that much other such is needed currently.) I may play around with this and see if I can use it as a template for person amusement maps.

PS: I'm keeping this map! (So, if you make any changes, I can still go back and smack some Creeps around.  ;D )
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 05, 2013, 11:37:46 AM
I didn't really get time to test it last night just enough to make sure the script worked and I know that the wave can get behind the base and break some stuff but it makes the creeper more like water, I guess I could make a smaller map. When I was testing the script on this map when the wave would hit something higher than level 7 I would sort of make a wave backwards from the direction that the wave is moving and after the wave filled the empty spaces on the map you couldn't tell where the wave was so I put the anti creeper in there to help players gauge where the wall should be. i should probably also change some of the other parameters like wind and creeper flow
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Otterbear on December 05, 2013, 01:03:41 PM
Good idea for using the AC emitters to show the wave coming. I hadn't thought about that. It worked. Just wish I could have done something with all that AC. The wave just goes right through it of course.
PS: I loved the way the Wave would crash against my wall, and splash over just a bit. Looked realistic.
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 05, 2013, 01:42:33 PM
thanks I'll start working on balancing this one and making another hopefully with more scripts
p.s. I like programming its fun.
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: teknotiss on December 05, 2013, 03:17:21 PM
fun map, but a bit easy with an air assault  ;)
4 berthas, 4x18 strafers and a landing force of 6 guppies, 6 blasters, 2 mortars and 4 shields. my base was held with alternating mortars and blasters, plus i expanded it by 3 units width. this was overkill and i think i could do this map in <5 mins if i focused and played it a few times. prob won't though, since i'm looking forwards to some development of this one  :).
so do you want to know what i'd do to make this map harder?
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some enemy emitters, not many just 4 or so along the top. or add an emitter script to the CRPL tower. some AEZ's over the CRPL, but not to big, this will force larger air assaults. some spores, just to slow the player setup. more AC at the base area to offset the added emitter if you add some.
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still fun diversion and it was about 20 mins realtime for 10 game
cheers dude 8) make more maps


Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 05, 2013, 07:44:02 PM
thanks for the suggestions i kind of thought the map was a little bare also so i will try to implement some of them asap
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Otterbear on December 06, 2013, 02:16:50 AM
Quote from: teknotiss on December 05, 2013, 03:17:21 PM
fun map, but a bit easy with an air assault  ;)...

That is what I like most about this map. It gave you options.
Your ideas on improvements were good as well.
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Miksu on December 07, 2013, 05:59:21 AM
I have to agree, it's way too easy with air assault, few strafers, bombers to give small protection, one sprayer, a shield, blasters and mortars with guppies and nullify that one lonely thing. :)
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 08, 2013, 01:24:22 AM
ok I have made some changes have fun :P
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: teknotiss on December 08, 2013, 01:26:02 PM
Quote from: jakeflee on December 08, 2013, 01:24:22 AM
ok I have made some changes have fun :P

well yes just a few  ;)
at 1:39 i was pretty sure my base was safe (see pic below)
i like the Aez addition, but removing all the free energy will make this a tricky/medium map for a lot of newer/slower players.
i'm not sure about the "helpful" spores, i suppose over time they will decrease the creeper, at 14:21 i haven't seen any enemy spores, didn't the text box say 3 mins? prob would have made a mess since i forgot to prepare for them. doesn't need them i'd say it's messy enough just claiming the totems
more fun this time, and a bit more grindy.
still sure i'll win  :D
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 08, 2013, 07:43:59 PM
hmm
maybe the enemy spores isn't working that's annoying ill try to get a fix up and running soon
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 09, 2013, 12:21:04 AM
fixed it i think
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Otterbear on December 09, 2013, 08:56:39 AM
I had to remove the AC spores code. (The sound was distracting, and my Beam Towers were attacking them. :( )

I didn't see that they were helping that much anyway. I haven't played it since I made the change. I guess I'll find out. :)
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: teknotiss on December 09, 2013, 02:02:04 PM
ok spores now incoming, and the PZ reactor farm is necessary i think, but the friendly spores are really just draining my Beams, perhaps you should code a non-targetable "friendly-spore" crpl tower, or pinch a code if someone has done it already.
love this map (although my base layout is RUINED by the not neat placement of the PZ reactors  ;), one cell left would fit neatly in my diamond style layout from the left lower corner)
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Otterbear on December 09, 2013, 07:07:52 PM
Quote from: teknotiss on December 09, 2013, 02:02:04 PM"...love this map (although my base layout is RUINED by the not neat placement of the PZ reactors  ;), one cell left would fit neatly in my diamond style layout from the left lower corner)

LOL, You noticed that too! :D I can't get my relays to line up right with the center of the Totem layout...thats what this perfectionist worries about at night.:D
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 09, 2013, 07:21:31 PM
lol i knew the placement of the reactor farm would mess with people :P ill see if i can move the farm any one else notice this is page 2 !!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 11, 2013, 12:13:22 AM
i think im going to start development of a new map: radar
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it will have a creeper radar and invisible enemies probably using spores or some thing
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edit unfortunately this might take a while as i have no idea how to rotate a line in a realistic manner to make this map but nothing a couple of questions to my physics teacher cant fix
omg im so stupid i can do this nvm give me like till the end of Sunday to put up a concept map as i have an ACT test coming up on Saturday
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 16, 2013, 11:37:55 PM
this actually might take a while so i can learn the movement functions and add script function
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: Clean0nion on December 17, 2013, 03:18:56 AM
I have attached to this post a map called "save.cw3". Put it into User/Document/CreeperWorld3/Worldeditor/Angles. What it is, it is an empty map containing a CRPLcore. Start the map and you'll see a white line on the CRPLcore. It always points towards your mouse. Use that to help you.

The image also stretches to touch the mouse.

If you want to set it to point to a fixed location, just remove the line GetMouseCell ->targetY ->targetX
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on December 27, 2013, 11:35:15 PM
oh thanks but i was going to make sort of an ai type thing where enemies would move, i was going to get started on something that might resemble an ai but i came down with the flu 2 days before Christmas and was pretty much asleep the entire week, and before that school had the bright idea of putting all of my tests and projects and assignments due on the same 2 days (we have a block schedule its kind of crappy), i see where you are going with this but i was going to do it slightly differently by using anticreeper to be like the sweeping thing on a radar then have invisable enemy units traveling out side till they were going to attack, then they would start in on a center island that you have to defend, but when the enemies reach the "radar" they will start outputting enough creeper to be seen. The island will have large amounts of energy and stuff for wepons and terps wont be used. i think i will also put in some form of air strikes. or does this all sound kind of impossible?
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on January 20, 2014, 01:46:09 AM
well good news i have an alpha of this map you will have to open it in the map editor and there is a significant amount of lag in the beginning any feed back so far? too big too much creeper or just impossible? have fun looking at this
Title: Re: Jakeflee's maps
Post by: jakeflee on January 27, 2014, 01:40:02 AM
well bad luck, my c drive got corrupt and i had to wipe my system so map stuff probably wont go any where for a while

Edited for language content -G.