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Author: CJY101 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?author=CJY101)
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omg
what should i do
wait 4 minutes until you can get to the room above your LS (use your blaster to kill the remaining creeper)
So what is the trick? 127 downloads and only the guy who made the map has a score.
As you can see in the scores, I haven't found it yet. I suspect you have to move your blaster (when you have it) next to the working ore deposit (the one that is digging towards 8 blasters) so you can keep the supply route free of creeper. If you don't know the ins and outs of creeper world it is impossible (you must know how to dig under your LS to reach the MR and that packets only need the center subcell and the 2 where it comes from/goes to to be free of creeper). Also you can't collect the bunker until you can handle the drones whith blasters.
General hints for this map: Try to get more techs, and if you can't rech the techs, try to get more units. If you don't have the tech, don't let any unit of that kind die. You sometimes have to wait before you can do something.
Quote from: J on March 06, 2013, 07:54:58 AM
wait 4 minutes until you can get to the room above your LS (use your blaster to kill the remaining creeper)
I did not use wait or field changes as the beginning.
This is not the way I like it.
This is not my style.
If this is done, this approach is not good.
If you want to know.
Spoiler
You must Fishing drone.
Let Drone through the Micro Rift.
.......
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.
Spoiler
1.Digging the terrain, Using the mouse to drag the way.
and let Phantom to attack the LS the top of the room.
Do not destroy the phantom coil or other buildings,
which will change the direction of the phantoms.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/Pg4ZiP0.png)
2.use fishing the way, Let Drone through the Micro Rift.
Bait and fish need to move together, the fish will follow over.
(I thought it should be a lot of people know about this method.)
Blaster to clear the rest of the creepers.
So you can get the Reactor.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/nxExZdC.png)
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/oeQNX00.png)
haha,i just fishing him just before u post it
ty anyway
I never knew about fishing... Thanks for showing me.
omg,the phantom keep kill the capsule
nvm,i can get the coil now
now the question is,how to kil the creeper at the capsule room
nvm again,i manage to stop the drone to kill the capsule
soon u will see my name in score board
muahaaa
joke
Quote from: Someone on March 07, 2013, 05:59:51 AM
now the question is,how to kil the creeper at the capsule room
The Capsule room just close Micro Rift, there would be no packet attacks of the enemy.
Each Tech has its uses.
Do not use the Blaster attack too many creeper.
Also do not use the Launcher attack ,Such as capsules room.
It will only waste time.
I would not have this design, that only very boring.
This map using overflow, Includes creeper and anti-creeper.
Open show creeper field will be found.
Also need detailed answers to each room?
Tell me.. plz
omg,i just use launcher at the capsule room and its 90 min now lol
should have think of that
is it posibble to win this without taking the crystal???
Tell me the way Please...~
"How to get ORG RIG tech" ?
before taking the ore rick u need to take the coil first
if you have take it then no problem
at the oil rick room,destryod the oil rick ,then bait the drone with blue creeper with your blaster to go there,u need one level upgrade of movement speed to go there
sry for my bad english and explanation
and sry if this become spoiler
I have already coil.
at last.
What I need is nullifier.... how to get this..
get the oil rig
can u get the oil rig?
OMG
i just almost get the dark mirror,but i have destryed the waygate that produce the dig
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
and i almost forgor,turn of the ability to atk of the blaster to bair the drone
Quote from: misoline on March 07, 2013, 11:34:32 PM
Tell me the way Please...~
"How to get ORG RIG tech" ?
If you want to get Ore Rig.
Spoiler
You must get the Maker,
The anti-creeper absorption, Maker absorb anti-creeper,
Let the enemy packet offensive.
So you can get the Ore Rig Tech.
Quote from: Someone on March 08, 2013, 12:45:50 AM
OMG
i just almost get the dark mirror,but i have destryed the waygate that produce the dig
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Be careful ah.
You are about to be complete this map.
:D
No I can't have oil rig..
I don't understand your way...
I can do Fishing.. But
I don't know where to go... -_-;;;;;;;;
Quote from: misoline on March 08, 2013, 01:45:43 AM
No I can't have oil rig..
I don't understand your way...
I can do Fishing.. But
I don't know where to go... -_-;;;;;;;;
Are you have get the 8 blaster?
No.~~... I have Only Coil tech...~
Quote from: misoline on March 08, 2013, 01:57:25 AM
No.~~... I have Only Coil tech...~
If you want to get 8 blaster.
Spoiler
You must Fishing, ues Phantom Coil, Let Drone attacks Ore Rig.
FINALLY
I FINISHED
MUAHAAAA
here u go my friend
CJY101:you my friend have made my day for 2 days,make me cant sleep to think how to solve this,hahaha
this is the best map ever,though me how to think before doing and make me mo care to my unit.hope i can see the other nice super map
>_<
Quote from: Someone on March 08, 2013, 02:04:17 AM
FINALLY
I FINISHED
MUAHAAAA
Finally someone completed this map.
However, you spend time really is more.
Quote from: Someone on March 08, 2013, 02:08:48 AM
here u go my friend
How do you not use you get the tech?
Spoiler
cheap Phantom coil.
about the time,well its rly,maybe i will improve it next time i play
ow,ya,didnt think about that
Thank you. SomeOne..~ ^^
Now, I got the Nullifier...^^
and then....
I got the "Beacon"
Have a nice weekend~~
I can't tell if this is two people who can't speak English or one guy trolling a non-English speaker. :P (or two guys trolling each other...)
Well, my DVR is full and ready, time to start a 90+ minute map :)
How To get c-bomb? or dark-mirror....?
i am not a good english speaker sry
take the dark mirror first then take the bomb,also NEVER kill the waygate above your LS,or you gonna start over the game
Bongo:what is DVR
Phew! I've done it! Brilliant puzzle map! :)
Quote from: ea3401 on March 09, 2013, 05:52:09 PM
Phew! I've done it! Brilliant puzzle map! :)
Thank complete the map. :D
and so on, will upload the answer to all rooms.
This is the answer to every room, Starting from the second room.
Know the answer, This map will be to lose thinking and fun.
The following is a sequence, but some may be performed simultaneously, or even earlier execution.
Hope not too early to provide an answer. :)
Phantom Coil Tech
Spoiler
02-01
(http://i.imgur.com/3BBTFvg.png)
02-02
(http://i.imgur.com/euca1zn.png)
8 Blaster
Spoiler
03-01
(http://i.imgur.com/ZLQVZYS.png)
03-02
(http://i.imgur.com/hFmgPbX.png)
Maker Tech
Spoiler
04-01
(http://i.imgur.com/dxIJg5m.png)
Ore Rig Tech
Spoiler
05-01
(http://i.imgur.com/TxZmFRb.png)
Nullifier Tech
Spoiler
06-01
(http://i.imgur.com/YlJYLYg.png)
06-02
(http://i.imgur.com/TQXne5J.png)
Beacon Tech
Spoiler
07-01
(http://i.imgur.com/fSPFIK0.png)
07-02
(http://i.imgur.com/qR0HkP7.png)
Blaster Tech
Spoiler
Drone needs to fishing to other rooms.
08-01
(http://i.imgur.com/ujyQ4Gb.png)
Shield Tech
Spoiler
09-01
(http://i.imgur.com/O3083pX.png)
09-02
(http://i.imgur.com/YYYGxCb.png)
Repulsor Tech
Spoiler
10-01
(http://i.imgur.com/JTrVCLF.png)
Launcher Tech
Spoiler
11-01
(http://i.imgur.com/CewFKyb.png)
11-02
(http://i.imgur.com/xhSHh1t.png)
Micro Rift Tech
Spoiler
12-01
(http://i.imgur.com/T7GQztu.png)
one Dark Mirror
Spoiler
13-01
(http://i.imgur.com/H1fKGvd.png)
13-02
(http://i.imgur.com/9wuZAoH.png)
13-03
(http://i.imgur.com/LfHIMTx.png)
13-be Careful
(http://i.imgur.com/Xqksyzv.png)
Conversion Bomb Tech
Spoiler
14-01
(http://i.imgur.com/KP7W5yN.png)
Solve the emitter.
Spoiler
14-02
(http://i.imgur.com/zuPPsNW.png)
14-03
(http://i.imgur.com/LHTyNLp.png)
14-04
(http://i.imgur.com/mEglZIJ.png)
Dark Beam Tech
Spoiler
15-01
(http://i.imgur.com/GrLEa8U.png)
15-02
(http://i.imgur.com/hoglhF9.png)
Dark Mirror Tech
Spoiler
16-01
(http://i.imgur.com/N6F4i8s.png)
16-don't do it
(http://i.imgur.com/QbE0Gil.png)
Rescue Capsule.
Spoiler
17-01
(http://i.imgur.com/X29UaWt.png)
17-02
(http://i.imgur.com/EzZlqvI.png)
Solve the channel inside the Micro Rift.
Spoiler
18-01
(http://i.imgur.com/ZW9FY3W.png)
The elimination of the last Drone 3000 Health.
Spoiler
You can also use a small amount of the Conversion Bomb,
Let Drone automatic stay above the Conversion Bomb,
Extend the destruction Drone Health.
5 ways - Shield、Blaster、Conversion Bomb、Dark Beam、Anti-Creeper
19-4 ways
(http://i.imgur.com/LQwds9r.png)
For sure one of the most interesting map i've done : congrats for this work ! ;)
Now, i've finished with compliments ^^ and need a little help (after trying so many things ??? >:( ), i can't be able to take the tech in the red circle (see spoiler), and it's the key to finish the map and i know how.
I don't use to ask for help but now i'm fed up ! :D
Thanks in advance !
Spoiler
(http://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/724817Help.jpg) (http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=724817Help.jpg)
I'm stupid ;D : how did i miss it ? ::)
Quote from: Walkn on March 09, 2013, 10:57:40 PM
I'm stupid ;D : how did i miss it ? ::)
;D
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By the way, in the Section 16 rooms. (Compare Obvious)
If the cover too many Micro Rift,
When Drone through the Micro Rift.
Terrible things may happen.
Quote from: CJY101 on March 09, 2013, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: Walkn on March 09, 2013, 10:57:40 PM
I'm stupid ;D : how did i miss it ? ::)
;D
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By the way, in the Section 16 rooms. (Compare Obvious)
If the cover too many Micro Rift,
When Drone through the Micro Rift.
Terrible things may happen.
This should be a BUG.
Spoiler
1.Drone Via Micro Rift through the other rooms.(Do not use fishing)
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/EMOTq3I.png)
2.Drone happens through the wall events.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/beo4ynD.png)
This is a demonstration.
3.Enemy Digger packets also appear through the wall events.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/jxgeOWn.png)(http://i.imgur.com/oGgN3Te.png)(http://i.imgur.com/H13DQnJ.png)(http://i.imgur.com/dAyx7OD.png)
At last i did it ! :) :) :)
What a nightmare, but a so lovely nightmare when it's finished !
Really really really hard in fact, i thought i will be able to finish it easily but no ! :o
My time is really awfull but i will do it again later improving the ways to solve the different problems.
Quote from: ea3401 on March 09, 2013, 05:52:09 PM
Phew! I've done it! Brilliant puzzle map! :)
This map took some time to making., Thank you for completing it.
Quote from: Walkn on March 11, 2013, 01:29:25 AM
At last i did it ! :) :) :)
What a nightmare, but a so lovely nightmare when it's finished !
Really really really hard in fact, i thought i will be able to finish it easily but no ! :o
My time is really awfull but i will do it again later improving the ways to solve the different problems.
Although a long time, but you eventually completed it.
Thank you.
---------------
I hope to bring you some fun. :D
help please, i cant figure out the spoiler, thanks
Quote from: PMouser on March 16, 2013, 06:42:55 AM
help please, i cant figure out the spoiler, thanks
Please elaborate of where difficulties,
Answer not clear enough?
Quote from: CJY101 on March 09, 2013, 10:51:32 PM
Blaster Tech
Spoiler
Drone needs to fishing to other rooms.
08-01
(http://i.imgur.com/ujyQ4Gb.png)
How do I destroy the drones in that room? Fishing doesn't seem to work and the blaster barely hurt them.
Quote from: CJY101 on March 07, 2013, 12:25:19 AM
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.
Spoiler
1.Digging the terrain, Using the mouse to drag the way.
and let Phantom to attack the LS the top of the room.
Do not destroy the phantom coil or other buildings,
which will change the direction of the phantoms.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/Pg4ZiP0.png)
2.use fishing the way, Let Drone through the Micro Rift.
Bait and fish need to move together, the fish will follow over.
(I thought it should be a lot of people know about this method.)
Blaster to clear the rest of the creepers.
So you can get the Reactor.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/nxExZdC.png)
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/oeQNX00.png)
I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.
The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.
The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.
Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.
What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?
Help?
Quote from: bigmac25 on May 17, 2013, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: CJY101 on March 07, 2013, 12:25:19 AM
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.
Spoiler
1.Digging the terrain, Using the mouse to drag the way.
and let Phantom to attack the LS the top of the room.
Do not destroy the phantom coil or other buildings,
which will change the direction of the phantoms.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/Pg4ZiP0.png)
2.use fishing the way, Let Drone through the Micro Rift.
Bait and fish need to move together, the fish will follow over.
(I thought it should be a lot of people know about this method.)
Blaster to clear the rest of the creepers.
So you can get the Reactor.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/nxExZdC.png)
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/oeQNX00.png)
I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.
The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.
The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.
Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.
What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?
Help?
You can just move the blaster right out of the ground.
Quote from: J on May 17, 2013, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: bigmac25 on May 17, 2013, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: CJY101 on March 07, 2013, 12:25:19 AM
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.
Spoiler
1.Digging the terrain, Using the mouse to drag the way.
and let Phantom to attack the LS the top of the room.
Do not destroy the phantom coil or other buildings,
which will change the direction of the phantoms.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/Pg4ZiP0.png)
2.use fishing the way, Let Drone through the Micro Rift.
Bait and fish need to move together, the fish will follow over.
(I thought it should be a lot of people know about this method.)
Blaster to clear the rest of the creepers.
So you can get the Reactor.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/nxExZdC.png)
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/oeQNX00.png)
I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.
The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.
The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.
Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.
What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?
Help?
You can just move the blaster right out of the ground.
I'm good with that. I just can't seem to get one of the flying creeper bombs to decay enough of the square before a capsule gets destroyed. The first flying bomb hits, but all the creeper stays in the corner, then slowly disappears. By the time I wait another two minutes for another set of flying bombs (or four minutes if the 2nd wave of flyers doesn't find that room) a capsule gets destroyed.
The way it seems it should work (from what I've read above), it seems like that first flyer should leave enough creeper to destroy the decayable block just above the command ship, but it doesn't. So I wait.
How do I get enough creeper on the block just above the command ship to destroy it so I can get my blaster down there?
Quote from: swekaj on May 17, 2013, 02:01:42 PM
Quote from: CJY101 on March 09, 2013, 10:51:32 PM
Blaster Tech
Spoiler
Drone needs to fishing to other rooms.
08-01
(http://i.imgur.com/ujyQ4Gb.png)
How do I destroy the drones in that room? Fishing doesn't seem to work and the blaster barely hurt them.
This stage do not have enough power to destroy the drone in this room.
So you need to fishing to other rooms.
At least to get Blaster Tech,
And until there is sufficient upgrade,
Or want to slowly consumed is also possible.
Quote from: bigmac25 on May 18, 2013, 04:39:43 AM
Quote from: J on May 17, 2013, 05:29:13 PM
Quote from: bigmac25 on May 17, 2013, 04:16:38 PM
Quote from: CJY101 on March 07, 2013, 12:25:19 AM
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.
Spoiler
1.Digging the terrain, Using the mouse to drag the way.
and let Phantom to attack the LS the top of the room.
Do not destroy the phantom coil or other buildings,
which will change the direction of the phantoms.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/Pg4ZiP0.png)
2.use fishing the way, Let Drone through the Micro Rift.
Bait and fish need to move together, the fish will follow over.
(I thought it should be a lot of people know about this method.)
Blaster to clear the rest of the creepers.
So you can get the Reactor.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/nxExZdC.png)
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/oeQNX00.png)
I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.
The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.
The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.
Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.
What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?
Help?
You can just move the blaster right out of the ground.
I'm good with that. I just can't seem to get one of the flying creeper bombs to decay enough of the square before a capsule gets destroyed. The first flying bomb hits, but all the creeper stays in the corner, then slowly disappears. By the time I wait another two minutes for another set of flying bombs (or four minutes if the 2nd wave of flyers doesn't find that room) a capsule gets destroyed.
The way it seems it should work (from what I've read above), it seems like that first flyer should leave enough creeper to destroy the decayable block just above the command ship, but it doesn't. So I wait.
How do I get enough creeper on the block just above the command ship to destroy it so I can get my blaster down there?
If you do not have a way of fishing,
Want to use the Phantoms of creepers to get the Blaster,
Seems unlikely.
Okay, can someone please make a playthrough video of this map?
I've finished all but three maps of CW2 and this is one of them and it makes me crazy after starting it for at least 500 times.
Tnx
QuoteIf you do not have a way of fishing,
Want to use the Phantoms of creepers to get the Blaster,
Seems unlikely.
How do you destroy the decayable block just above the command ship?
Quote from: bigmac25 on May 26, 2013, 04:18:42 AM
How do you destroy the decayable block just above the command ship?
See Reply #07 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12813.msg91004#msg91004)
Quote from: ea3401 on May 26, 2013, 05:12:22 AM
Quote from: bigmac25 on May 26, 2013, 04:18:42 AM
How do you destroy the decayable block just above the command ship?
See Reply #07 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12813.msg91004#msg91004)
Ah. Crap. I was fishing the wrong one.
Duh on me. Thanks.