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Title: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 24, 2012, 04:56:57 AM
Last week we had quite fierce competition for the top spot, with some of the players playing and replaying maps several times to squeeze a few seconds of the time.

With that in mind, I think the theme for this week should be competitions, so I did a google of Famous competitions and picked out maps I thought looked interesting. Whether or not they are actually worthy of the word famous might be another matter.

Anyways, here is the result.

A few useful links:
All Tournaments (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7410.0)
Code Map Scoreboard (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewscores.php)
Tournament Score Tool (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7477.0)



Theme:
Famous Competitions



   
   
   
   
   
   
Map Name:Size:Complexity:
Nathan's Hot Dog Eating ContestMediumHigh
Strongman (strength athlete)SmallMedium
International         Wine ChallengeSmallHigh
The International Tchaikovsky CompetitionSmallLow
StarCraft: Brood War professional competition 2MediumMedium

Links to wiki for each of the competitions
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nathan's_Hot_Dog_Eating_Contest
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strongman_(strength_athlete)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Wine_Challenge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Tchaikovsky_Competition
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/StarCraft:_Brood_War_professional_competition


Have fun with the maps!
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Wheatmidge on September 24, 2012, 12:46:51 PM
Why are there so many spaces in "International         Wine Challenge"?
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 24, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
Quote from: Wheatmidge on September 24, 2012, 12:46:51 PM
Why are there so many spaces in "International         Wine Challenge"?

Because the one with no spaces looked very boring :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Mr.H on September 24, 2012, 01:40:41 PM
Auw no 'Ironman' competition D: . That hot dog eating sounds... intresting :P
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 24, 2012, 05:25:27 PM
*Dough* Now that I think about it, I should of course have listed "Weekly 5-map tournament" on that list.

So for those in the mood for some extra, have a go at:
Penguin'sWeekly 5-map tournament (Note the lack of space)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 25, 2012, 04:42:24 AM
21 scores, 8 players on day 2. Not bad, looks like it could be another interesting week.

Intermediate scores here you go:
Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
RankNameNathan's Hot Dog Eating ContestStrongman (strength athlete)International         Wine ChallengeThe International Tchaikovsky CompetitionStarCraft: Brood War professional competition 2Total ScoreTotal Time
1J1205411411105181159345576
2Helper12208116301186135699
3Wheatmidge12634115931071634943
4UoADeadeye11105117001096233767
5inept_celt11109109981152533632
6TheSmileyCoder118501242824278
7dt42124601145823918
8ctuna1189111891
Best scores in Bold.
Scores recorded at 2012-09-25 03:39:46 forum time.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 25, 2012, 05:27:53 PM
Quote from: SmileyCoder on September 24, 2012, 12:48:34 PM
Quote from: Wheatmidge on September 24, 2012, 12:46:51 PM
Why are there so many spaces in "International         Wine Challenge"?

Because the one with no spaces looked very boring :)

I always try to look at the maps and go for something un-common. Thats why there are so many spaces in that map, and its why there is a 2 at the end of the last map, and a The added in front of the 4th map.

Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
RankNameNathan's Hot Dog Eating ContestStrongman (strength athlete)International         Wine ChallengeThe International Tchaikovsky CompetitionStarCraft: Brood War professional competition 2Total ScoreTotal Time
1Helper12208116301076211861124475890841:00
2J1205411411105181159345576
3inept_celt1110911208116801134645343
4TheSmileyCoder12852118501242837130
5Wheatmidge12634115931071634943
6UoADeadeye11105117001145534260
7dt42124601145823918
8ctuna115741189123465
Best scores in Bold.
Scores recorded at 2012-09-25 16:25:27 forum time.

Helper has taken the lead as the first to complete all maps, and top scorer on 3 maps. Well done so far.

Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Helper on September 25, 2012, 06:21:53 PM
Quote from: SmileyCoder on September 25, 2012, 05:27:53 PM
Helper has taken the lead as the first to complete all maps, and top scorer on 3 maps. Well done so far.

LOL!
Thank you, but way too early in the week for me to think those times are going to stand.
I have a stack of 'submitted' maps to play, then will be back trying to shave a few seconds here and there.

I think this is going to be another week, just like the last one.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 26, 2012, 05:21:35 AM
Well I have knocked you off the top, but I feel quite sure that it wont stand.

Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
RankNameNathan's Hot Dog Eating ContestStrongman (strength athlete)International         Wine ChallengeThe International Tchaikovsky CompetitionStarCraft: Brood War professional competition 2Total ScoreTotal Time
1TheSmileyCoder12852114871097911850124285959634:34
2Helper12673116301076211861124475937337:23
3J1205411411105181159345576
4inept_celt1110911208116801134645343
5Wheatmidge12634115931071634943
6UoADeadeye11105117001145534260
7dt42124601145823918
8ctuna115741189123465
Best scores in Bold.
Scores recorded at 2012-09-26 04:19:32 forum time.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Helper on September 26, 2012, 06:25:07 AM
I love the smell of competition in the morning.
:)

[EDIT] - Unless it includes Experimentals or Fields.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Helper on September 26, 2012, 12:13:45 PM
Whoa Nellie!
My latest lead didn't hold up for long.
I'm going to re-start Missions 3 & 5 from scratch and see if I can find some extra minutes.

TSC - nice scores.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 26, 2012, 02:13:35 PM
Thank you, bit of a unfair advantage, been home with a sick kid today, leaving me a bit of time to play.

I have tried "Nathan's Hot Dog Eating Contest" 5 times now, and I still cannot come near your score. grrr.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: J on September 26, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
I won't be able to play play any more maps this week so I'm out :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 26, 2012, 04:58:41 PM
Quote from: J on September 26, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
I won't be able to play play any more maps this week so I'm out :)

Dam, knowing how close your maps usually cut it balance wise, I was really looking forward to the competition from you!
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Helper on September 26, 2012, 06:00:07 PM
Quote from: J on September 26, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
I won't be able to play play any more maps this week so I'm out :)

Just knock out #5 real quick and you will have a very solid score.
TSC is kicking the tar out of this thing, but the rest of us can battle for second and third place.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: UoAdeadeye on September 27, 2012, 12:36:08 AM
wow - I am still in awe of the scores...   I apparently need a class in optimizing my way through these maps!!!  I can usually get there, but my scores suck!!  Regardless - love the tourneys!
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 27, 2012, 06:03:40 AM
No rest for the wicked I see. Helper has upped has game with some impressive scores, and I now see that mopa42 has entered the scene and allready he/she is beating several of my scores.
Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
RankNameNathan's Hot Dog Eating ContestStrongman (strength athlete)International         Wine ChallengeThe International Tchaikovsky CompetitionStarCraft: Brood War professional competition 2Total ScoreTotal Time
1TheSmileyCoder12852116651097911939127106014531:19
2mopa4212816116271087411953127446001432:26
3Helper12869116301092511863126355992232:59
4UoADeadeye1108911105880611700114555415590:21
5J1205411411105181159345576
6inept_celt1110911208116801134645343
7Wheatmidge12634115931071634943
8dt42124601145823918
9ctuna115741189123465
Best scores in Bold.
Scores recorded at 2012-09-27 05:00:03 forum time.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 27, 2012, 06:07:08 AM
Quote from: UoAdeadeye on September 27, 2012, 12:36:08 AM
wow - I am still in awe of the scores...   I apparently need a class in optimizing my way through these maps!!!  I can usually get there, but my scores suck!!  Regardless - love the tourneys!

If you are a beginner I suggest simply taking one of the maps and play it through 3-4 times and each time try to see what you can do differently.

Most maps are about:
Grabbing all crystals that are easy to reach
Building as fast as you can without starving
Don't build weapons untill you need (Save energy for reactors)
Don't wait too long to attack, the sooner you attack, the less creeper will have been released.
If you have enough energy, attack several caves at once.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: deety42 on September 27, 2012, 03:09:02 PM
I wish I had more time this week! 

Other tips from someone who was usually in last place for a while and now occasionally sees second or third place. 
1)  Make sure you upgrade the game software if you haven't.  I had started playing on a version that didn't have different speed controls...that makes a huge difference to play in slower mode.
2) It has helped me to never run at an energy deficit if I can help it.
3) play around with what tech upgrades work best in which situations.

Good luck...
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: J on September 27, 2012, 03:20:05 PM
I've completed the last map, good enough for a 4th place
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: UoAdeadeye on September 27, 2012, 06:50:37 PM
Ha - I feel ashamed - I never updated!!!  thanks!   

Also thanks for the other tips... will see if I can improve some times/scores before the weekend is out...

Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 28, 2012, 02:22:12 AM
Quote from: deety42 on September 27, 2012, 03:09:02 PMthat makes a huge difference to play in slower mode.

Guess its a matter of playstyle. I prefer to play in fast mode, with my hand on the pause button.

Thats the advice I forgot to give earlier, pause alot so that you have time to think. Remember you can build while paused.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: J on September 28, 2012, 02:25:49 AM
I pause about every 2 to 10 seconds playing time :D still too lazy for micro-managing. And now I really don't have any more time to play (maybe when I'm out of school 40 minutes earlier).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Helper on September 28, 2012, 06:27:42 AM
Yikes!
Where did that score for #3 come from?

Time for the rest of us to re-think that one.
Nice score SC.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on September 28, 2012, 07:34:16 AM
Most of the maps chosen for this week was chosen because they seemed to allow different tactics. One of the maps has a huge cavern you can fly into, one of the caverns has heavy upward-left gravity which also allows for some unusual tactics.

Map #3 has heavy drones, and heavy fields. Using the fields properly can allow you to squeeze in shields and subsequently a nullifier. Its hard though, because the dam drones keep banging my shields.

For comparison, iirc, I think I nullified the first emitter just before the 3 minute mark. It should still be possible to squeeze a better time in then mine, I didn't play as good as I could for the last 6 mins of that map.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: ctuna on September 28, 2012, 11:56:40 AM
Well, the wine challenge is kicking my butt - I guess the hints above aren't enough for me. Maybe next week.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on October 01, 2012, 03:22:39 AM
Final scores for this weeks tournament.
Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
RankNameNathan's Hot Dog Eating ContestStrongman (strength athlete)International         Wine ChallengeThe International Tchaikovsky CompetitionStarCraft: Brood War professional competition 2Total ScoreTotal Time
1TheSmileyCoder12852116651155911939127106072526:21
2Helper12869117311092511910127186015331:23
3mopa4212816116271087411953127446001432:26
4dt4212460114581065211738119485825644:40
5J12054114111051811866122905813947:17
6UoADeadeye1184611105880611700114905494782:33
7inept_celt1110911208900111680113465434486:42
8Wheatmidge12634115931071634943
9ctuna115741189123465
10Martin1211812118
11FreeForTaking1029310293
Best scores in Bold.
Scores recorded at 2012-10-01 02:17:48 forum time.

Thank you for all the pressure you guys put into it. Makes it much more fun!

Since I also won last week this means its up to the runner up to host next weeks competetion. Congrats to Helper for some pretty nifty scores. He actually scored better then me on 3 of the 5 maps, but the big headstart I got on "Wine challenge" was too much to catch by being awesome on the other maps.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: Helper on October 01, 2012, 07:17:42 AM
My bad - I thought the "Wine Challenge" included me knocking back a few glasses as I played (joke).

I beat on that thing several times and just couldn't get a decent start. The best I could do was take out that first Emitter in about 6:00.

You played that very well.

Let me putting my thinking cap on and figure out a new format for this week's tournament.

Well played to everyone - really nice participation.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-Map Tournament - Famous Competitions- closing 30 Sept 2012
Post by: SmileyCoder on October 02, 2012, 08:20:20 AM
Haha @ your joke.

I was actually quite impressed by most of your times, I don't think I would have been able to beat you this week, had it not been for the wine challenge.