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Creeper World => Custom Map Discussion => Topic started by: Aurzel on December 03, 2009, 01:12:16 PM

Title: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 03, 2009, 01:12:16 PM
I've been working at making a map that should be impposible to beat, this is only the first version though and will constantly have harder versions uploaded as people become better at it, post your best time, which in this case is how long you survived for or if you miraculously won, every now and then i'll post a newer version of the map which will be harder than the last.


RULES:
1. You are not allowed to move the city from its starting location.
2. A screen shot displaying the mission time must be posted for your time to be accepted.
3. Let me know if you think of more rules.


Version 1.00:
1. Apocalypstic 13:07 completed
2. Virgilw 30:48 completed

Version 2.03:
1. ItsFunToLose 8:15 completed
2. Young 8:55 completed

Version 2.11
1. ItsFunToLose 6:53 completed

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Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 03, 2009, 01:13:57 PM
<<RESERVED FOR MORE SCORES>>
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: knucracker on December 03, 2009, 06:09:02 PM
Wow.... that was tough.  Took me about 4 tries before I found a way into the lower plain.

Below is my solution.  I went a little overboard with the SAMs, but I wasn't sure how many would be coming in :)
The assault on the lower plain required a three phase assault.  A wave of drones, a wave of blasters, drones, blasters, drones, blasters.  The blasters had to land in staggered phases from each other since the first group would run out of ammo before the relay would get built.  About the time they would run out the second bunch would land and keep the creeper away till the relay could be built.

Note that I paused the game frequently to review what was going on and to issue new move commands to the next assault squad.  Time to completion 30:48... but I could probably do it in 20 minutes now that I know the force strength required to take the lower plain.

(http://knucklecracker.com/forumimg/floodgate1.jpg)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: djcian on December 03, 2009, 06:18:26 PM
i was a little..... paranoid, with what would be attacking me. just see for yourself

http://www.use.com/10f413c4aed78ed238c1
(http://www.use.com/10f413c4aed78ed238c1)

its very hard to finish because you cant put a relay on top of the creeper in the bottom and it's tough to get lasers in range
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: djcian on December 03, 2009, 06:49:35 PM
wow..... i was able to find a way to beat the map. in fact i beat it in under 30 seconds!  i got a score of 9926.  all you have to do is land the city next to the rifts and you win.  this is by far the easiest map ever!  you should fix that.  also if you want it to be impossible make it so you cant build anything in the creeper pit.  mess up the terrain in there a bit.  also put more then two rift totems so odin city cant just fly over it and activate them.  it holds 20 energy remember?

just out of curiosity when are the emitters higher up going to erupt.  they don't seem to do anything
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 03, 2009, 07:05:29 PM
excuse me for thinking that in the spirit of making a challenge you wouldnt do that *eyeroll*
as to everyone else, i'm gonna be adding rules so read the first post again and remember this is the first version, it'll get harder ;)

and @djcian, thanks that screenie of the how you did up the sams gave me an idea
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Apocalypstic on December 04, 2009, 08:38:08 PM
(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/9333/floodgates.jpg)
Even though I had 23 collection and only 16 depletion, starvation kept going up.  I guess Odin City can only produce so many packets at once, no matter what your collection level is.

Anyway, I figured out that it was impossible to build and protect more than 1 relay in there, and even then I had to juggle my blasters around or else they would run out of ammo before the relay was finished.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 05, 2009, 02:42:39 AM
hmm looks like we have our best time so far, time to up the difficulty
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 26, 2009, 06:59:20 PM
the next version has been submitted, sorry for it taking so long guys, lets see if this one's a bigger challenge
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Young on December 27, 2009, 03:03:15 AM
Quote from: Aurzel on December 26, 2009, 06:59:20 PM
the next version has been submitted, sorry for it taking so long guys, lets see if this one's a bigger challenge

What a fun map. Took me a while to get started. Made it in 13:20 I couldv'e done it much sooner but here are the results:

First try good start. Turned out EPIC fail and with the side spawns starting later.

(http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/2362/floodattempt1.jpg)

Second good attempt I hit it hard. But without proper positioning my relay got owned and retreat was in order.

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5127/floodattempt2fail.jpg)

So this time making sure where my relay is suppose to be positioned I go back and winz @ 13:20 / 8180

(http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/3946/floodattempt2complete.jpg)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Young on December 27, 2009, 03:51:26 AM
I attempted once more and did much better.

(http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/9941/floodb.jpg)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 27, 2009, 03:57:38 AM
excellent time, guess i'll have to add a few more suprises in
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: knucracker on December 27, 2009, 10:59:30 AM
Quote from: Young on December 27, 2009, 03:51:26 AM
I attempted once more and did much better.

Dang Young.... you didn't even build any energy storage to bulk up before the assault....  That was gutsy.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 27, 2009, 01:05:06 PM
i'll say, i better make those spore attacks more frequent
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Xylnalya on December 27, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
Don't wanna brag but
Quote from: Rules
1. You are not allowed to move the city from its starting location.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 27, 2009, 05:46:23 PM
hmm you're right, and xylnalya that's not bragging that's tattle-tailing lol
sorry young you broke the rules
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Young on December 27, 2009, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: Xylnalya on December 27, 2009, 01:47:47 PM
Don't wanna brag but
Quote from: Rules
1. You are not allowed to move the city from its starting location.

lol i noticed.

Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 28, 2009, 03:43:33 AM
lol beat his own time
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: betadata on December 29, 2009, 02:16:37 PM
@ YOUNG
how did you do it with no blasters on the top emitters???
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on December 29, 2009, 04:26:38 PM
the top emitters are scheduled to start a little later on, basically he won before they went active, i'll have to make them come on earlier
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on January 08, 2010, 05:38:14 AM
new one coming up and i'm sure you'll all be cursing the screen the first time you play it ;)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Young on January 10, 2010, 04:14:12 AM
Quote from: Aurzel on January 08, 2010, 05:38:14 AM
new one coming up and i'm sure you'll all be cursing the screen the first time you play it ;)

change your title on your uploaded map. still says 2.03
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on January 10, 2010, 04:19:26 AM
thats because the new one hasnt come out yet, the new one is version 2.11
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Young on January 10, 2010, 05:01:45 AM
Quote from: Aurzel on January 10, 2010, 04:19:26 AM
thats because the new one hasnt come out yet, the new one is version 2.11

Well wth is the repost about and the spores come different directions. it's obviously a different version. for simplicity sake you should put v2.03a or something.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: ItsFunToLose on January 10, 2010, 01:53:30 PM
(http://i46.tinypic.com/2m5fqft.jpg)


The file download link says 2.11 but the in game title says 2.03 still.  first game, spores from the south = ragequit



start the map with the emitters on the ridge active.  its way easy currently.  would make it impossible for some, but challenging for me :-)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on January 11, 2010, 03:40:39 AM
@young the spores always came from diff directions, just later
@funtolose thanks for the catch
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Young on January 11, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
Quote from: Aurzel on January 11, 2010, 03:40:39 AM
@young the spores always came from diff directions, just later
@funtolose thanks for the catch

So it's a different verson yes?

Your still bad not changing the name thx ;0

edit: had to add the top line.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: CyberDyneSystems on January 11, 2010, 05:03:21 PM
Hah, wish I'd found this thread before banging away at this so long. :)
Awesome difficult map,. after many failed attempts, I got it done, but was so intent on simply finishing the fight, I was not at all focusing on time, as you will notice ;)

I tend to go for overkill :O

(http://images.fotopic.net/?iid=11g21b&outx=600&noresize=1&nostamp=1)

this was the version just prior to the2.11 version I think, listed as 2.03 in the game.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: CyberDyneSystems on January 11, 2010, 05:08:47 PM
Hmm, I just noticed from the screen shots that in my game I managed to stop the creep with the most amount of the disintegrating blocks in place,. ie: I may have had things under control sooner than I thought, but in my own fear of a total collapse, or spore attack knocking me back to the stone age, rather than press the advantage went for slow and cautious.

At some point I have to try this with speed in mind, .. I just wish I remember how I did this last time! :)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on January 12, 2010, 03:54:17 AM
or you can wait till the next version and try it harder
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: ItsFunToLose on January 12, 2010, 09:14:03 AM
are there any better times than 7:31 or is no one trying?  :-(
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on January 12, 2010, 09:30:05 AM
i dunno there's a lot of downloads so either everyone gives up or no one's good enough
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: ItsFunToLose on January 13, 2010, 11:00:06 AM
beat my own time, too lazy to post screenshots.  I keep coming back to this map.  Classic.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: ItsFunToLose on January 13, 2010, 01:16:29 PM
(http://i747.photobucket.com/albums/xx119/ItsFunToLose/floodwin.jpg)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on January 13, 2010, 03:46:07 PM
dam, remind me to push up the spore attacks to start at 3 minutes in the next one
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: SPIFFEN on January 14, 2010, 11:10:24 AM
Why dont i manage to build so many things , in so short time ?
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: ItsFunToLose on January 14, 2010, 11:21:02 AM
order matters.


Edit:  Hit 6:51  blah, not worth a screenshot
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Joykill on January 15, 2010, 04:59:18 AM
Any chance you could make a video of that? to share your awesomness?
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: ItsFunToLose on January 15, 2010, 10:31:31 PM
to have it copied, refined, and then have my number one spot bumped by someone doing it a few seconds faster?  :-)   
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: ItsFunToLose on February 05, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
is there a new challenge map out?  or has the floodgate following died?

(i've been gone for about a month.)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on February 06, 2010, 08:17:06 AM
well there hasnt been a new version yet, working on other stuff atm
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: koker93 on March 11, 2010, 10:13:19 PM
So, ive beat every map in the game.  A lot of the maps in the custom section.  And for the most part I always beat them on the first attempt.  I dont think I'm particularily good at this, but I'm at least decent  - so how do you the devil do you guys survive the initial assault?  I've tried a couple dozen times now and cannot build out enough quickly enough to avoid collapse.  And thats on ver 1!!?!  how about a hint or two on how to start out...
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Karsten75 on March 11, 2010, 10:38:10 PM
Quote from: ItsFunToLose on February 05, 2010, 11:15:30 PM
is there a new challenge map out?  or has the floodgate following died?

(i've been gone for about a month.)

While waiting, try a few of the many new maps available.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: tpatana on March 13, 2010, 04:23:20 AM
Did the V1.00 in 12 minutes and few seconds.

Was fun map. Maybe I should try the others too.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: UpperKEES on March 18, 2010, 03:02:45 AM
6:22 / 9038, I think under 6 minutes is definitely possible. It was a fun challenge! :)
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Aurzel on April 07, 2010, 03:24:51 AM
maybe i should update this, problem is i'm not feeling it right now, even my other idea which i was really hyped on when i thought about it has kinda lost momentum
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: Grabarz on April 25, 2010, 03:47:44 PM
Refresh.
I just wanted to say that maps where the totems are in one place are totally screwed up because you can move Odin City near them, you will win faster than town will be destroyed. This is really annoying in Custom Maps.
Title: Re: Flood Gate
Post by: TheBuilder on April 25, 2010, 11:07:51 PM
Just don't be so ignorant next time when something is made a certain way on purpose.