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Creeper World 3 => DMD Map Discussion => Topic started by: jackmott on October 14, 2013, 09:23:24 AM

Title: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: jackmott on October 14, 2013, 09:23:24 AM
If anyone with a sub 59 second time would chime in how they are doing it, I'm super curious =)
Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: jackmott on October 14, 2013, 02:03:10 PM
Quote from: jackmott on October 14, 2013, 09:23:24 AM
If anyone with a sub 59 second time would chime in how they are doing it, I'm super curious =)


mystery solved!
relays, baby.
Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: NFITC1 on October 17, 2013, 12:50:10 PM
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The trick is to not queue all relays at once. If you try to build them as they're included on the network you'll starve your emitter.
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Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: Ceraus on November 07, 2013, 06:10:32 AM
I'm kind of stumped at the 0:56.4, though; I spent some time perfecting that Collector-Relay setup back then.

(http://daou.st/R/trollolololol%20map.png)
Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: Alter Old on November 07, 2013, 07:26:00 AM
Quote from: Ceraus on November 07, 2013, 06:10:32 AM
I'm kind of stumped at the 0:56.4...

The quicker you will construct a chain to a nullifier, the earlier he will begin is under construction, so? You have not an optimum arrangement of the first collector of this chain, so all the rest will be under construction for 0,1 seconds later. Just rearrange first collector on one cell up.
Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: Ceraus on November 07, 2013, 07:39:12 PM
Ah, I get it now, thanks!

I put that Collector low so that the (first) path to the Nullifier is shorter, but I missed that it finishes 1 frame later.
Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: ivan on June 24, 2015, 12:24:29 PM
Sorry for reviving this topic but this map and the leaderboard is driving me mad :)

Any more tips? I tried the example layout and I can't get past 59'
Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: Grayzzur on June 24, 2015, 02:43:35 PM
Quote from: ivan on June 24, 2015, 12:24:29 PM
Sorry for reviving this topic but this map and the leaderboard is driving me mad :)

Any more tips? I tried the example layout and I can't get past 59'
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Are you using 2 command nodes?
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Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: ivan on June 25, 2015, 11:28:55 AM
Yep, two nodes.
Title: Re: trollolololol map - fastest times
Post by: D0m0nik on November 26, 2015, 02:21:30 PM
I just entered the DMD area for the first time, never bothered before. I see for this map Alter Old posted 56.4. Is it fair to assume all the times above him are cheating? Or is there some extra trick other than collector and relay placement?