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Title: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: AutoPost on March 31, 2022, 03:41:37 PM
This topic is for discussion of map #9942: Some Spores
(https://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=9942)

Author: Martin Gronsdal
Size: 70x120

Desc:
Past games had spores. This game has spores.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: spirix on March 31, 2022, 03:56:22 PM
This game has spores, I have no clue... :D
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: stdout on March 31, 2022, 07:39:53 PM
This one is a doozy.

Spoiler
Luckily snipers are available.
[close]
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on March 31, 2022, 07:46:51 PM
MG -
You've done it again.
The only thing lower than the Rating (1), is the scores (0).
LOL!

I'm going to save this until tomorrow morning and give it a run.
Thanks,
H
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: stdout on March 31, 2022, 09:18:58 PM
I cleared all the enemies but the end game condition didn't trigger. What am I missing?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 02:15:20 AM
Take a look at the mapmaker's name...
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: rennervate on April 01, 2022, 04:02:36 AM
i don't get it... lol


spoiler
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 04:13:48 AM
I feel your pain...
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: rennervate on April 01, 2022, 04:14:30 AM
unresolved problems can trigger a dissociative disorder
:P
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on April 01, 2022, 04:37:57 AM
Still working on the right combination to survive past the second wave.
Can probably skip my cardio workout today, I've already been at my target heart rate for the past 20 minutes.
Thanks Martin, you've made the day interesting.
H
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 04:46:38 AM
I'm very glad that you guys bother to play my maps! Many thanks
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: rennervate on April 01, 2022, 05:36:42 AM
Quote from: Helper on April 01, 2022, 04:37:57 AM
Still working on the right combination to survive past the second wave.
Can probably skip my cardio workout today, I've already been at my target heart rate for the past 20 minutes.
Thanks Martin, you've made the day interesting.
H

make sure it doesn't end up being a frustrating day lol
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: stdout on April 01, 2022, 08:05:22 AM
See screenshot for the final step needed to trigger the end game condition.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: rennervate on April 01, 2022, 08:19:38 AM
and how is it possible to terp?

there is no option for me here to terp
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: D0m0nik on April 01, 2022, 08:33:59 AM
Quote from: rennervate on April 01, 2022, 08:19:38 AM
and how is it possible to terp?

there is no option for me here to terp

I am guessing a mass artefact by that fallout?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: D0m0nik on April 01, 2022, 08:34:40 AM
Guys, we really need to talk about Martin. He's clearly unwell and needs help  ??? :o ;)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 08:37:09 AM
Oh no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no,no!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: rennervate on April 01, 2022, 08:40:20 AM
Quote from: D0m0nik on April 01, 2022, 08:33:59 AM
Quote from: rennervate on April 01, 2022, 08:19:38 AM
and how is it possible to terp?

there is no option for me here to terp

I am guessing a mass artefact by that fallout?

omg - thx

Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 08:49:31 AM
How do you guys even come up with this sh-t?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: D0m0nik on April 01, 2022, 09:00:12 AM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 08:49:31 AM
How do you guys even come up with this sh-t?

Right back at ya!!  ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 09:47:16 AM
Haha
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on April 01, 2022, 11:45:18 AM
Pot...Kettle.


(I'm currently beating on "Groot", but will be back to work on the start here soonest.)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 02:16:13 PM
I am literally heartbroken over this today....
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: D0m0nik on April 01, 2022, 02:47:06 PM
Quote from: Helper on April 01, 2022, 11:45:18 AM
Pot...Kettle.


;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wolfgoesmoo on April 01, 2022, 05:01:46 PM
Man, I can't even figure out how to get this started! I read the earlier spoiler about

Spoiler
using the snipers to uncover the power zones
[close]

but still get wrecked in the first wave no matter what I do!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 05:19:22 PM
if you don't like the spores, make sure you don't provoke them ;)

there are many units in this game that don't make the spores come....
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on April 01, 2022, 07:10:05 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 05:19:22 PM
if you don't like the spores, make sure you don't provoke them ;)

there are many units in this game that doesn't make the spores come....

Best clue of the day.
That finally turned the trick for me and I was able to play through.
Had it on 4X speed though, and forgot to slow it down.

Trying to decide if I should 'Rate' this map.
Right now it has a perfect 1 score from 11 players and I really hate to mess up perfection.

That might be a CW3 record that would enshrine MG as - truly - #1!

Thanks for a whole day full of fun.
H
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: teknotiss on April 01, 2022, 07:10:51 PM
Quote from: wolfgoesmoo on April 01, 2022, 05:01:46 PM
Man, I can't even figure out how to get this started! I read the earlier spoiler about

Spoiler
using the snipers to uncover the power zones
[close]

but still get wrecked in the first wave no matter what I do!


hey dude!

Spoiler
if you build enough beams to fill all spore towers i meant all PZ's..... , then save, you can restart easier.

DO NOT build anything apart from the sniper and the beams, then once the beams are all in PZ's you can place a collector grid and a forge, then fill the space on the lower island with reactors (leaving room for a few blasters to get a foothold on the creeper area)
[close]

hope that helps!  8)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: teknotiss on April 01, 2022, 07:11:44 PM
Quote from: Helper on April 01, 2022, 07:10:05 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on April 01, 2022, 05:19:22 PM
if you don't like the spores, make sure you don't provoke them ;)

there are many units in this game that doesn't make the spores come....

Best clue of the day.
That finally turned the trick for me and I was able to play through.
Had it on 4X speed though, and forgot to slow it down.

Trying to decide if I should 'Rate' this map.
Right now it has a perfect 1 score from 11 players and I really hate to mess up perfection.

That might be a CW3 record that would enshrine MG as - truly - #1!

Thanks for a whole day full of fun.
H

i ruined that score... sorry  :o
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Helper on April 01, 2022, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: teknotiss on April 01, 2022, 07:11:44 PM
i ruined that score... sorry  :o

Sure you are!
Your cousins in Canada have a name for guys like you.
:)

******************
@wolfgoesmoo

This picture should help you get started.
H

Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Weasee on April 02, 2022, 09:30:27 AM
ok, so "some" spores, how bad can that be?
...
ok, pretty bad  :o

it took me a long time trying to beat that first wave until I remembered about STUPID HIDDEN TARGETS ARGHGH!
...then it was easy  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: teknotiss on April 02, 2022, 11:00:40 AM
Quote from: Helper on April 01, 2022, 07:43:27 PM
Quote from: teknotiss on April 01, 2022, 07:11:44 PM
i ruined that score... sorry  :o

Sure you are!
Your cousins in Canada have a name for guys like you.
:)

top bloke?  ::) ??? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 02, 2022, 01:37:16 PM
Weasee, at least you are not the one that cracked it
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wolfgoesmoo on April 02, 2022, 05:50:25 PM
Quote from: teknotiss on April 01, 2022, 07:10:51 PM
Quote from: wolfgoesmoo on April 01, 2022, 05:01:46 PM
Man, I can't even figure out how to get this started! I read the earlier spoiler about

Spoiler
using the snipers to uncover the power zones
[close]

but still get wrecked in the first wave no matter what I do!

hey dude!

Spoiler
if you build enough beams to fill all spore towers i meant all PZ's..... , then save, you can restart easier.

DO NOT build anything apart from the sniper and the beams, then once the beams are all in PZ's you can place a collector grid and a forge, then fill the space on the lower island with reactors (leaving room for a few blasters to get a foothold on the creeper area)
[close]

hope that helps!  8)

Thanks! Martin's hint got me started on this approach. I can't quite get a toehold on the main north section, but I'm sure it's just a matter of persistence.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: D0m0nik on April 03, 2022, 03:51:02 AM
Quote

Thanks! Martin's hint got me started on this approach. I can't quite get a toehold on the main north section, but I'm sure it's just a matter of persistence.

It's just a matter of berthas!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: teknotiss on April 03, 2022, 08:07:01 AM
Quote from: D0m0nik on April 03, 2022, 03:51:02 AM
Quote

Thanks! Martin's hint got me started on this approach. I can't quite get a toehold on the main north section, but I'm sure it's just a matter of persistence.

It's just a matter of berthas!

seconded!
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wolfgoesmoo on April 04, 2022, 03:29:29 PM
Quote from: D0m0nik on April 03, 2022, 03:51:02 AM
Quote

Thanks! Martin's hint got me started on this approach. I can't quite get a toehold on the main north section, but I'm sure it's just a matter of persistence.

It's just a matter of berthas!

Ha, I wasn't even paying attention. I did it without any Berthas.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 04, 2022, 04:25:22 PM
WOW

How?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: stdout on April 04, 2022, 09:14:23 PM
Using the two convert artifacts the berthas are un-necessary (although they are helpful!)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 05, 2022, 03:32:37 AM
Yeah, forgot those
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Dark6al3a on April 06, 2022, 10:20:42 PM
Is it just me or is This map Really Low Effort ?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 07, 2022, 01:36:57 AM
Depends on what you mean by that?
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: teknotiss on April 07, 2022, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: Dark6al3a on April 06, 2022, 10:20:42 PM
Is it just me or is This map Really Low Effort ?

just you...  ;) ;D ;D ;D

this map is pretty high effort, if you want to see some examples of low effort maps hang around CS and some will crop up... then we report them as insta-win or achievement maps and they are deleted.

we also have a policy of being nice and friendly in these fora to each other, and especially to the few people who make a lot of the maps still being posted... and we prefer using constructive criticisms rather than drive by passive aggressive comments.

please bear this friendly advice in mind for your future interactions with the people here!

cheers! 8)
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Dark6al3a on April 09, 2022, 04:44:31 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on April 07, 2022, 01:36:57 AM
Depends on what you mean by that?
I feel like it's made in 5 minutes
Although It's probably longer than that
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Dark6al3a on April 09, 2022, 04:54:34 PM
Quote from: teknotiss on April 07, 2022, 03:54:38 PM
Quote from: Dark6al3a on April 06, 2022, 10:20:42 PM
Is it just me or is This map Really Low Effort ?

just you...  ;) ;D ;D ;D

this map is pretty high effort, if you want to see some examples of low effort maps hang around CS and some will crop up... then we report them as insta-win or achievement maps and they are deleted.

we also have a policy of being nice and friendly in these fora to each other, and especially to the few people who make a lot of the maps still being posted... and we prefer using constructive criticisms rather than drive by passive aggressive comments.

please bear this friendly advice in mind for your future interactions with the people here!

cheers! 8)
Yeah...CS is filled with doodle maps
And I found this map with a lot of Dloads and Scores, So I got curious why
I usually take around 2 or 3 hours with my Maps
Because I don't like to find someone saying "bad map"
or "low effort map"
I try to make 'em as good as I can while not taking way too much time with 'em
But for this map I don't really know why it is high effort
It looks just like another Doodle map

Sorry If I sound rude to Martin Gronsdal, But I don't really like to find CS filled with Doodles
It may be just me, As it's just my opinion

And thanks for the advice teknotiss, I really appreciate it (:
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wolfgoesmoo on April 09, 2022, 05:48:43 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on April 04, 2022, 04:25:22 PM
WOW

How?

It's been a few days but as I recall, I had packet speed maxed really high and basically burrowed my way through the creeper on the right side to start taking out the spore towers. The spores would wreck my relays but I just kept pausing and rebuilding. Once I cracked some spore twoers it got a lot easier.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: wolfgoesmoo on April 09, 2022, 06:12:44 PM
My final setup looked like this:
Spoiler

(https://i.imgur.com/4tlg5Rk.png)
[close]
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Weasee on April 09, 2022, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Dark6al3a on April 09, 2022, 04:54:34 PM
But for this map I don't really know why it is high effort
It looks just like another Doodle map

Have you actually tried playing this level? Most people without a deep knowledge of CW3 will find it difficult to complete.

Martin's maps may look minimal, but they are very precisely crafted, and often take a lot of (enjoyable!) hours to beat.
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 10, 2022, 02:45:34 AM
It gets to a point where one has to ask - what community do we want here?  :-X
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on April 10, 2022, 02:47:36 AM
Quote from: Weasee on April 09, 2022, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Dark6al3a on April 09, 2022, 04:54:34 PM
But for this map I don't really know why it is high effort
It looks just like another Doodle map

Have you actually tried playing this level? Most people without a deep knowledge of CW3 will find it difficult to complete.

Martin's maps may look minimal, but they are very precisely crafted, and often take a lot of (enjoyable!) hours to beat.

Many thanks for kind comments, Weasee. You seem to weasel your way into any map I make  😉
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: Dark6al3a on April 10, 2022, 11:50:27 AM
Quote from: Weasee on April 09, 2022, 07:44:58 PM
Quote from: Dark6al3a on April 09, 2022, 04:54:34 PM
But for this map I don't really know why it is high effort
It looks just like another Doodle map

Have you actually tried playing this level? Most people without a deep knowledge of CW3 will find it difficult to complete.

Martin's maps may look minimal, but they are very precisely crafted, and often take a lot of (enjoyable!) hours to beat.
Yeah, Some of his maps look silly but in reality are Deep and challenging
But for this one, Why and how is it 1.[ number ] Rating ?
I don't really know why does some maps have Bad ratings even though they're well done, And have some time spent on them

CS Sure is a strange place.......
Title: Re: Custom Map #9942: Some Spores. By: Martin Gronsdal
Post by: D0m0nik on April 10, 2022, 12:27:49 PM
The rating issue is very simple, most players are not very advanced and rate any difficult map low. Map makers are generally expierienced players and make challenging maps and so get low ratings. If you can ignore ratings and just make maps for yourself and for the pure pleasure of doing so. Some will like them, some wont, that's life!