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Title: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: AutoPost on June 20, 2022, 07:58:37 AM
This topic is for discussion of map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot
(https://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld3/queryMaps.php?query=thumbnailid&id=10127)

Author: AlexX
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Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on June 20, 2022, 08:20:08 AM
Can't wait until I get home!
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 20, 2022, 10:20:06 AM
lol - don't expect anything martin. I'm still practicing
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on June 20, 2022, 10:23:14 AM
South west form Chinese letters that mean you like to s-d-mise hamsters and crickets
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Loren Pechtel on June 20, 2022, 10:52:03 AM
Is this a trick map or what?  I don't even see a viable starting point.
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 20, 2022, 12:19:47 PM
no Loren - no tricks - nothing hidden...
u got the tools - use them :-)
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 20, 2022, 12:20:56 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on June 20, 2022, 10:23:14 AM
South west form Chinese letters that mean you like to s-d-mise hamsters and crickets

of course that is intentional and that is also the truth
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Feroperetic on June 21, 2022, 03:28:35 AM
Quote from: rennervate on June 20, 2022, 12:19:47 PM
no Loren - no tricks - nothing hidden...
u got the tools - use them :-)

Maybe you could leave some hints without spoiling everything? I'm really bad at these type of maps.
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: chwooly on June 21, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
Quote from: rennervate on June 20, 2022, 12:19:47 PM
no Loren - no tricks - nothing hidden...
u got the tools - use them :-)

I played this map and have determined that this is a lie, there is no way to cross the digitalis to get the final emitter, having only 1 guppy means you can't supply enough power to clear the digi and even using power zone relays it is too far to bridge. Once you move the 1 guppy you so graciously give we lose to forge since there is no other way to power it. So this is an exercise in futility, If you are trying to suck the fun out of a game this map succeeds.

Cheers
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 21, 2022, 07:09:36 AM
Quote from: chwooly on June 21, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
Quote from: rennervate on June 20, 2022, 12:19:47 PM
no Loren - no tricks - nothing hidden...
u got the tools - use them :-)

I played this map and have determined that this is a lie, there is no way to cross the digitalis to get the final emitter, having only 1 guppy means you can't supply enough power to clear the digi and even using power zone relays it is too far to bridge. Once you move the 1 guppy you so graciously give we lose to forge since there is no other way to power it. So this is an exercise in futility, If you are trying to suck the fun out of a game this map succeeds.

Cheers

Just because you can't obviously figure out how to solve the map doesn't mean you should be rude.


to Feroperetic
Spoiler
the elevated bug nest has ac. start the chain reaction and wait until you can craft a landing platform with the terp
[close]

For the rude guy:

Spoiler
if the guppy is lost - you build a new one. insanely tricky
[close]

Spoiler
you can power the forge from one of the pz. indecently tricky
[close]

Spoiler
you can clean the digitalis with air units... that's so absurdly tricky
[close]

Spoiler
you use a terp to get to the last island on a pz... that's questionably absurdly tricky
[close]


@chwooly: reading this makes me really wonder what's going on with you




Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: yak on June 21, 2022, 09:31:46 AM
I DID IT!!! almost 4 hours of hardcore play. loved since start, when pressure from 15 spores raining on you turtling without energy almost gave me heart attack. great map, scored 10 of course. loved ending trick also. if mid game harder would be even better, but i feel it would be hard to design. anyway i feel your best map so far. great stuff.
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Feroperetic on June 21, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: rennervate on June 21, 2022, 07:09:36 AM

Spoiler
the elevated bug nest has ac. start the chain reaction and wait until you can craft a landing platform with the terp
[close]


Aargh too impatient I guess. If you stop and take a moment (or more) to ponder why certain "tools" are available everything else logically follows. Thanks!
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 21, 2022, 10:49:12 AM
Quote from: yak on June 21, 2022, 09:31:46 AM
I DID IT!!! almost 4 hours of hardcore play. loved since start, when pressure from 15 spores raining on you turtling without energy almost gave me heart attack. great map, scored 10 of course. loved ending trick also. if mid game harder would be even better, but i feel it would be hard to design. anyway i feel your best map so far. great stuff.

thx 4 the kind words!
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 21, 2022, 10:50:42 AM
Quote from: Feroperetic on June 21, 2022, 10:37:30 AM
Quote from: rennervate on June 21, 2022, 07:09:36 AM

Spoiler
the elevated bug nest has ac. start the chain reaction and wait until you can craft a landing platform with the terp
[close]


Aargh too impatient I guess. If you stop and take a moment (or more) to ponder why certain "tools" are available everything else logically follows. Thanks!

u're welcome
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on June 21, 2022, 12:12:25 PM
pants down one of the best maps I've played!

10 points and thanks for making it!
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 21, 2022, 01:27:33 PM
Wow thank you very much
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: chwooly on June 21, 2022, 10:45:17 PM
I finished the map, I just didn't chose to post my score.

As to your spoilers,

You can't land the guppy anywhere close to the forge so you can't repower it. As you pointed out you can use a collector in a PZ to power it later however this means you can't use a PZ for the air unit you recommend later on.

I generally don't bother with air units since they are the least effective weapons in the game.

Micromanagement might be fun for some but not for me.

While it might be considered rude it did get your attention and others who like these type of games responded with accolades (that might not have happened if I had not been rude) so overall IMHO a win/win.
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Weasee on June 22, 2022, 09:56:13 AM
Thanks AlexX for this map - a challenging start, but also options to ignore most of the map haha !
So many restarts on this one, trying to find an optimal strategy.
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 22, 2022, 12:43:05 PM
Quote from: Weasee on June 22, 2022, 09:56:13 AM
Thanks AlexX for this map - a challenging start, but also options to ignore most of the map haha !
So many restarts on this one, trying to find an optimal strategy.

thx... but like one said before: the midgame is boring
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on June 22, 2022, 01:49:58 PM
I think the midgame is what makes this map super good: you can altogether skip midgame with a precision attack, you can have some midgame but then go for the throat or you can play south north normally

EDIT: Or you can be an idiot like me and delete the guppy, then it's collector on PZ after long fight.

EDIT2: There is a pick up trick for the nullifier, hehe
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Weasee on June 22, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on June 22, 2022, 01:49:58 PM
EDIT2: There is a pick up trick for the nullifier, hehe
What was your trick? Did you
Spoiler
skip taking the last bend?
[close]
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 23, 2022, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Weasee on June 22, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on June 22, 2022, 01:49:58 PM
EDIT2: There is a pick up trick for the nullifier, hehe
What was your trick? Did you
Spoiler
skip taking the last bend?
[close]

I couldn't believe it when the nerd showed me what a shortcut is  :D
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on June 23, 2022, 04:06:37 AM
Quote from: Weasee on June 22, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on June 22, 2022, 01:49:58 PM
EDIT2: There is a pick up trick for the nullifier, hehe
What was your trick? Did you
Spoiler
skip taking the last bend?
[close]

Yes, that helps too
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on June 23, 2022, 04:07:55 AM
Quote from: rennervate on June 23, 2022, 01:42:40 AM
Quote from: Weasee on June 22, 2022, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: Martin Gronsdal on June 22, 2022, 01:49:58 PM
EDIT2: There is a pick up trick for the nullifier, hehe
What was your trick? Did you
Spoiler
skip taking the last bend?
[close]

I couldn't believe it when the nerd showed me what a shortcut is  :D

Ain't to need here!
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Marinero on June 25, 2022, 08:03:20 AM
Where do nerkia is the elevated bug nest? I'm sorry but I'm not a english language good speaker... :'(

Quote from: rennervate on June 21, 2022, 07:09:36 AM
Quote from: chwooly on June 21, 2022, 03:32:33 AM
Quote from: rennervate on June 20, 2022, 12:19:47 PM
no Loren - no tricks - nothing hidden...
u got the tools - use them :-)

I played this map and have determined that this is a lie, there is no way to cross the digitalis to get the final emitter, having only 1 guppy means you can't supply enough power to clear the digi and even using power zone relays it is too far to bridge. Once you move the 1 guppy you so graciously give we lose to forge since there is no other way to power it. So this is an exercise in futility, If you are trying to suck the fun out of a game this map succeeds.

Cheers

Just because you can't obviously figure out how to solve the map doesn't mean you should be rude.


to Feroperetic
Spoiler
the elevated bug nest has ac. start the chain reaction and wait until you can craft a landing platform with the terp
[close]

For the rude guy:

Spoiler
if the guppy is lost - you build a new one. insanely tricky
[close]

Spoiler
you can power the forge from one of the pz. indecently tricky
[close]

Spoiler
you can clean the digitalis with air units... that's so absurdly tricky
[close]

Spoiler
you use a terp to get to the last island on a pz... that's questionably absurdly tricky
[close]


@chwooly: reading this makes me really wonder what's going on with you
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Martin Gronsdal on June 25, 2022, 08:53:55 AM
Down left or south west, on the white line
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: Arno on June 30, 2022, 10:41:02 AM
Great map
You perfectly ruined my workday   ;D
I liked the start,  liked the end, I liked the middle

Waitng for th next one ...
Title: Re: Custom Map #10127: 026-Damn it's hot. By: AlexX
Post by: rennervate on June 30, 2022, 12:59:58 PM
thx for u're friendly feedback