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Title: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Telanir on April 13, 2015, 02:12:06 am
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Hey guys,

I've been working a bit on developing the idea I had a bit before of an autonomous separate command node that uses creeper to combat the player, when I released the Eye of Orion map people seemed to like the idea. I am open to feedback and suggestions, please add your thoughts to this thread and I will do my best to make corrections. :)
This is a post where I want to catalogue all my future maps and updates as well as a tutorial on how to best play these maps.
I will be uploading a template for creating these maps as well in the near future, if you don't know what this is then check out the maps section of this post.

What is a Sleeper?
See this wiki post for the Sleeper lore (http://knucklecracker.com/wiki/doku.php?id=sleeper:overview) and more info.

(http://i.imgur.com/bHbU14d.png)

A little idea I had of a Ticon development that went horribly wrong, the creeper ended up corrupting these autonomous command nodes and sending them across the galaxy to orbit distant planets. The command nodes had a built in safety switch that turned them off and made them "sleep" until an enemy arrives, which was supposed to be a creeper except now they watch for human trespassers. In the map Era of the Sleepers a more advanced Sleeper node is activated and it sends signals across the galaxy for other Sleeper nodes to also activate, I will be making these maps with that in mind. Sleepers are an advanced technology, and therefore don't do most of the fighting themselves, but instead employ their creations to fight for them, they are near-clones of the player units with the exception that they fire creeper instead. Units constructed by Sleeper nodes are called Creeps and vary in their purpose, they can either produce or use Creeper, they are made of a modified plated Digitalis and are impact resistant.

Strategy
In order to make the whole Creep idea work I had to find a way for the player to damage these units without the sole use of snipers and beams, because that would be somewhat stale. Creep units therefore have a single piece of Digitalis underneath the CRPL Core that when damaged will sharply reduce the health of the creep. This piece of digitalis will be repaired but if damage is sustained and the digitalis can't grow back fast enough the unit keeps dying. If a Creep has anti-creeper underneath it will also begin to suffer from massive damage.

What does that mean?
I couldn't make your Big Bertha's super useful, but I made sure they stayed relevant. :)
If anyone has any ideas for the code I'd be glad to implement them but as of now there doesn't seem to be a way for me to, strictly speaking, know when a shot is fired and hits the CRPL. Big Bertha's however, are extremely apt at sweeping up the Creep Collectors because they have low health and their Digitalis does not regrow fast.

Quick List of Tips

Creep Units

Sleeper
Health: Massive
Purpose: Annihilate the trespassing sniveling humans.
Abilities:
Strategy: In-between power surges is the best time to strike. Always strike in large numbers because the Sleeper has anti-air and point-defense that will destroy your units. When a Sleeper is settled down it will attempt to run if you attack it with units, if the Digitalis on the Sleeper is damaged, however, it will hunker down and will not attempt flight. Therefore, use a combination of Snipers and Pulse Cannons, douse the Sleeper in anti-Creeper, all three will deal continuous damage to it's massive health and the Pulse Cannons will prevent it from escaping.

Collector
Health: Low
Purpose: Produce creeper to feed surrounding Creep units.
Abilities:
Strategy: Use any available Big Bertha's to sweep up large amounts of Collectors at once, the Sleeper usually can't keep up.

Ore Mine
Health: High
Purpose: Produce creeper to feed surrounding Creep units.
Abilities:
Strategy: Once an Ore Mine is settled it can be tough to chew out, secure as many Ore deposits as early as possible, otherwise use Pulse Cannon fleets, target Digitalis and land them on the Ore Mines to take them out.

Totem Siphon
Health: High
Purpose: Upgrade the Sleeper node with Aether and unlock bigger and badder Creep units.
Abilities:
Strategy: A Sleeper does not instantly unlock the more powerful Creep units, Totem Siphons have a lot of health but if you focus Pulse Cannons on them you can take them out. The more time a Sleeper has with active Totem Siphons the faster it unlocks new techs!

Pulse Cannon
Health: Medium
Purpose: Use surrounding creeper to eliminate anti-creeper and player units.
Abilities:
Strategy: Cannons will target your units and without your Forge upgrades they will fire farther than your units. If you see an approaching Creep Cannon, move your units closer and target Digitalis.

Mortar
Health: Medium
Purpose: Use surrounding creeper at a distance to eliminate anti-creeper and player units.
Abilities:
Strategy: Mortar fires farther than the Pulse Cannons and packs a bigger punch. They are slower however and can't fight back if you place Pulse Cannons near them.

Beam
Health: Low
Purpose: Use surrounding creeper to eliminate air units.
Abilities:
Strategy: Beams will target every flying unit, that includes when you move your cannons! Place beams at your front lines to avoid enemy beams preventing you from beefing up your front line. Otherwise stack groups of Strafers and order them all to fire at the Beam, it will eliminate it fairly quickly.

Terp
Health: Medium
Purpose: Use surrounding creeper to create Digitalis in their surrounding area.
Abilities:
Strategy: Once a Terp is deployed there is very little you can do, focus on destroying building Terps to avoid a map covered in Digitalis.

Shield
Health: High
Purpose: Push anti-Creeper away and pull Creeper in, drawing fire and assisting friendly units to advance the front line.
Abilities:
Strategy: Shields don't produce Creeper and without backup support they are nearly useless. They are very aggressive and will often plow into the front lines before anything else gets there, use this time to destroy them before their reinforcements arrive.

Strafer Base
Health: Low
Purpose: Produce Strafers with medium health to help push the front lines against the player. Fire at weak points such as relays and collectors and eliminate the ability of player units to receive power.
Abilities:
Strategy: Strafer Bases have low health on their own, consider sending a wave of player strafers against them. Creep Strafers can be extremely frustrating because they are specifically designed to cut power lines and force you to pull back. Destroy their bases as soon as possible, and use many beams to destroy approaching Strafers before they can cause too much damage.


Changelog
v1.0

Sleeper Maps
You can find a comprehensive list of all available Sleeper maps on this wiki post (http://knucklecracker.com/wiki/doku.php?id=sleeper:maps). If your map is not on there you should notify me either by sending a PM or making a post in this thread, you can also simply edit the wiki page to include your map.


Map Template
Navigate to this post (https://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=18434.0) for more information about making your own sleeper map!



Thank you for everyone who supported the Sleeper project and added their suggestions, concerns, and reported bugs, you have all made a meaningful contribution.
Thanks to Tyler21, Loren Pechtel, iwishforpie2, porlob, strigvir, hbarudi, D0m0nik, cecel123, RrR, stdout, Karsten75 and of course, the amazing VirgilW.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Tyler21 on April 13, 2015, 07:12:50 am
First of all, you are doing a wonderful job, you made this mod even more amazing then in Orion's Eye.
And you deserve another huge compliment for making your scripts very user-friendly and including that incredible amount of comments.

However, as in any game, there is always room for improvement ;-)

Here are my comments and suggestions (currently I have only these, but when I will have more, I'll just put them at the end of this list):
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Telanir on April 13, 2015, 08:20:20 pm
Thank you Tyler for your feedback, it is very helpful as I am working on fleshing out a balanced template for all future maps. I really pride myself in having well commented code that people can read and understand easily, we're all a community and we deserve to have access to all these wonderful resources.

I took your forcefield method ( gave due credit ;) of course) and applied it in all the Creep units. I still can't believe that I completely forgot to include Nullifiers as a target in the Sleeper Point Defense module, until now I also had no idea how people were finishing the maps in a minutes time, until I realized that hold on... that makes a lot of sense. Sniper targeting for the Sleeper will be fixed, I'm not actually sure why I did what I did they shouldn't be able to as they can't aim "up" (hence making beams target the flying Sleeper).

Strafers are a constant problem in the old and new version, I found it really hard to balance them but I also want the player to be able to spam Strafers galore because sometimes you really need to take a pool of creeper out. How do you destroy beams if you can't get to them in the first place? Well I came up with a solution. Simply have flying non-air units take a lot less damage to their hitpoints and have players haul groups of Digitalis-targeting pulse cannons. I'll be making the beams hit air units a lot harder now that it makes a whole lot more sense.

When it comes to build patterns yeah I'm pretty guilty of rushing the Sleeper code as it came last and I really wanted to push a map. I'll be pushing a changelog as soon as I'm doing all of this.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: strigvir on April 14, 2015, 12:01:21 am
Do creeper units follow the same line of sight rules as their normal counterparts, i.e. can I wreck a pulse cannon from the higher elevation without getting hit back?
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Tyler21 on April 14, 2015, 03:12:00 am
I took your forcefield method ( gave due credit ;) of course) and applied it in all the Creep units

I am not sure whether this is a good idea for two reasons.
First, Creeps will have overlapping ranges and they will override the others' field as these do not add but the last value applies to the target cell. This could result in very strange patterns.
This is not an issue if you will use it for shields only and add a script that ensures that each shield will be at least (shield range) distance from eachother.

Second, as the number of Creeps will increase this will lead to an exponential decrease in performance.
I think it is not really necessary to use fields for each Creep. You can improve the creeper collecting method. Currently the cores are using the single cell only under the core (I assume that's why you want to use the fields), but you could modify the collecting method itself, for instance by forcing the core to collect a certain amount of creeper within its range if possible.

This can be done in several ways, with a combination of a while loop, getcreeper and setcreeper functions (I'd prefer damagecreeper, it's more convenient and it already allows you for damaging creeper in a radius instead of a single cell). The Creep would check nearby cells for creeper in a given pattern (either starting from the core's cell and going away or starting at the radius and going inside, add the amounts of creeper found and when it reaches a certain limit break the loop and damage the creeper for that specific total amount.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Telanir on April 14, 2015, 04:19:37 am
Don't worry, while I really appreciate it I never take source code at face value--I always want to improve the tools we have and it was a pleasure using your code. I adapted your source to make a radial-based forcefield that is activated only once. Calculations for forcefield only occur upon liftoff and landing for units. Forcefields also now stack on top of one another, I achieved this by using code that modified forcefields using GetFieldCell and SetFieldCell to get the effect. I will be putting the source in the wiki EasyCRPL, but when it comes to forcefields, I didn't bother updating source for all of them you are right, I only did so for shields.

The next update is pretty packed and I'm liking where this is going. Only problem I'm having at the moment is the AI for deciding which Creep to build is causing lag spikes a few times a minute when the area around it is full and it gets annoying--so I postponed my next release until tomorrow. It's time to peek out from under that beta cloud and get a template running. I tried using my template that I built and ran into a bunch of issues, thankfully now issues nobody else will have to run into. DialogueMessages are really hard to work with and bug out for me... so I'm not using them.

Do creeper units follow the same line of sight rules as their normal counterparts, i.e. can I wreck a pulse cannon from the higher elevation without getting hit back?
As of the next version they will check if you're on higher terrain but as for line-of-sight (building walls) it can be pretty CPU intensive. I will have to think about that... for now try using mortars to get the Creep cannons offline.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Telanir on April 17, 2015, 04:31:23 am
With the release of the Sleeper v1.0 Dreams of Eridani (https://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=18433.0) I have also released the Sleeper map template for anyone who also wants to contribute to this project. : )

You can find the Sleeper Map Template here (https://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=18434.0).
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Karsten75 on April 17, 2015, 02:02:08 pm
I played one of the "sleeper" maps. Reasonable fun, but my primary objection would be the terrible lag on what I perceived as even a moderate map. I got around 16-18 fps on my Intel Core i5 desktop.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Telanir on April 17, 2015, 02:04:57 pm
The latest release map Eridani was focused primarily on fixing the lag issues and balancing. If the other maps play slow I want to recommend that you try this one. :)

Please let me know how it goes, I also run an i5 on a fairly old desktop and encountered lag on my previous maps.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: strigvir on April 29, 2015, 12:45:10 am
PAC maps starring Sleeper when?
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Telanir on May 13, 2015, 10:07:40 pm
PAC maps starring Sleeper when?

That sounds really difficult to do, it would mean writing an entire new system to make you play as the Sleeper too. Maybe if more people voice interest in the idea. :D
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Warpsing on July 21, 2015, 07:17:36 pm
Hey there.  I seem to be having a problem with the sleeper strafer.  It doesn't seem to be moving when it's created.  The map starts you off with only collectors, relays, cannons, and nullifiers.  You have a sleeper striker, a few emitters, and a spore tower to keep you busy until you face off against the sleeper, who produces more collectors and pulse cannons, but produces no mortars or beams.

On another note, I thought of how a sleeper guppy might work out to be like. A sleeper guppy could be varied in 3 ways as how guppies are, and could change between construct, emit, and siphon.  Construct acts like a sleeper command node that is much weaker in terms of hp, has barely any turbo mode or self defense, and has a limited ammo for building, but is faster in terms of speed.

Emit uses creeper, and acts like a emitter for a certain amount of time.  same hp and self defense as the other guppy.  Siphon lands and tries to connect to the power grid to steal materials, and then unload it to the pad.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: tanminecraft2 on September 30, 2015, 03:13:04 am
hey telanir do you to collaborate with tyler and warren? I'm sure it'll be a better map such as you can play sleeper map with the game concept of hoover dam you're one of the 3CRPL god along with them so it's your chance to try if possible or if too hard try to add their script into your sleeper game mode it'll be great
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: rer24 on October 04, 2015, 08:47:56 am
I love the idea behind this game mode! First of all, I would also like to see a PAC with this game mode. Second, a couple of ideas for more units:
1. Reactors: They would be similar to collectors, but be more expensive and produce more creeper
2. Guppies: they would draw in creeper at landing pad, fly to areas with lots of structures but little creeper, and release the creeper
3. Sprayers: they could be more powerful than pulse cannons, and hold some creeper for later use
4. Sniper: Lots of range, low fire rate
5. Bomber: Similar to strafer, drops creeper right below it, slower but stronger
Any of these may have an unlock cost.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: rer24 on October 18, 2015, 01:35:33 pm
Also, it would be interesting if the Sleeper could interact with Power-zones. Make the units stronger/more efficient.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Nicant on October 23, 2015, 05:14:17 pm
I love the idea behind this game mode! First of all, I would also like to see a PAC with this game mode. Second, a couple of ideas for more units:
1. Reactors: They would be similar to collectors, but be more expensive and produce more creeper
2. Guppies: they would draw in creeper at landing pad, fly to areas with lots of structures but little creeper, and release the creeper
3. Sprayers: they could be more powerful than pulse cannons, and hold some creeper for later use
4. Sniper: Lots of range, low fire rate
5. Bomber: Similar to strafer, drops creeper right below it, slower but stronger
Any of these may have an unlock cost.



I'm going to try and make your ideas come to life and try to make them as custom creep units in my sleeper custom map i'm making! It will take a while though  :)



Also, it would be interesting if the Sleeper could interact with Power-zones. Make the units stronger/more efficient.

I don't know if i can do that in my sleeper cusom map though.
Edit: I'm going to make a post about my map so go there for details!
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: tanminecraft2 on October 26, 2015, 11:31:41 pm
it should have a sleeper rush such as 6c spore rush by using 6collectors to pull double totem side from each side of the sleeper side for spore then a spore can land and provide a creeper for sleeper to go down and start sieging with a collectors and weapons more and more until it take enough damage don't like a lot of rts game in this game you can't rush but this shouldn't be a problem to say if sleeper can also if the game have enough supporting we can make a PVP using this custom race note playing as sleeper may modify your unit that use ac instead don't say that it's hard to play as creeper it's like a sleeper vs sleeper
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: TechBot5402 on November 23, 2015, 06:05:03 pm
Amazing work! Good A.I., Good Enemy, I just wish i wasn't F2P so i can buy CW3 full version. But when will the Humans have this awesome A.I.? I want to see a Play As Sleeper map kinda badly. Also, Maybe you could have Anti-Emitters on some sleeper maps, and the sleeper AI will try to nullify them. Good idea? Already suggested?

And uhhhhhh.... This usually isn't how i behave, so i guess i kinda lost it when typing this message. But still, this is quite some CRPL stuff i wanna see.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Nicant on November 23, 2015, 08:23:00 pm
Amazing work! Good A.I., Good Enemy, I just wish i wasn't F2P so i can buy CW3 full version. But when will the Humans have this awesome A.I.? I want to see a Play As Sleeper map kinda badly. Also, Maybe you could have Anti-Emitters on some sleeper maps, and the sleeper AI will try to nullify them. Good idea? Already suggested?

And uhhhhhh.... This usually isn't how i behave, so i guess i kinda lost it when typing this message. But still, this is quite some CRPL stuff i wanna see.
Can i use your idea in my next sleeper map? I was making a Creep nullifier and i stopped working on it because i had no use for it. But for AC emitters, that is a good idea!
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: TechBot5402 on November 23, 2015, 08:40:23 pm
Amazing work! Good A.I., Good Enemy, I just wish i wasn't F2P so i can buy CW3 full version. But when will the Humans have this awesome A.I.? I want to see a Play As Sleeper map kinda badly. Also, Maybe you could have Anti-Emitters on some sleeper maps, and the sleeper AI will try to nullify them. Good idea? Already suggested?

And uhhhhhh.... This usually isn't how i behave, so i guess i kinda lost it when typing this message. But still, this is quite some CRPL stuff i wanna see.
Can i use your idea in my next sleeper map? I was making a Creep nullifier and i stopped working on it because i had no use for it. But for AC emitters, that is a good idea!

Ahh, You like my idea and want to use it? Will go for it! I'd like to see the sleepers trying to fight the AC like a player fighting regular old creeper emitters.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Nicant on November 24, 2015, 03:54:24 pm
Amazing work! Good A.I., Good Enemy, I just wish i wasn't F2P so i can buy CW3 full version. But when will the Humans have this awesome A.I.? I want to see a Play As Sleeper map kinda badly. Also, Maybe you could have Anti-Emitters on some sleeper maps, and the sleeper AI will try to nullify them. Good idea? Already suggested?

And uhhhhhh.... This usually isn't how i behave, so i guess i kinda lost it when typing this message. But still, this is quite some CRPL stuff i wanna see.
Can i use your idea in my next sleeper map? I was making a Creep nullifier and i stopped working on it because i had no use for it. But for AC emitters, that is a good idea!

Ahh, You like my idea and want to use it? Will go for it! I'd like to see the sleepers trying to fight the AC like a player fighting regular old creeper emitters.
Ok, thanks! You will be credited by the way!
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: TechBot5402 on November 24, 2015, 04:02:05 pm
Amazing work! Good A.I., Good Enemy, I just wish i wasn't F2P so i can buy CW3 full version. But when will the Humans have this awesome A.I.? I want to see a Play As Sleeper map kinda badly. Also, Maybe you could have Anti-Emitters on some sleeper maps, and the sleeper AI will try to nullify them. Good idea? Already suggested?

And uhhhhhh.... This usually isn't how i behave, so i guess i kinda lost it when typing this message. But still, this is quite some CRPL stuff i wanna see.
Can i use your idea in my next sleeper map? I was making a Creep nullifier and i stopped working on it because i had no use for it. But for AC emitters, that is a good idea!

Ahh, You like my idea and want to use it? Will go for it! I'd like to see the sleepers trying to fight the AC like a player fighting regular old creeper emitters.
Ok, thanks! You will be credited by the way!

I'm thinking of a map that has a strong sleeper, but weak anti-emitters that it will try to nullify. How about that? Sleepers will try to nullify your AC Emitter and use it's power zone, i think it gives the player something to defend.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Nicant on November 25, 2015, 06:27:21 am
Yeah that is what i was thinking, but have four anti-emitters and one sleeper. So you will have to defend the emitter that the sleeper node is closer to.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: TechBot5402 on November 25, 2015, 05:19:26 pm
Yeah that is what i was thinking, but have four anti-emitters and one sleeper. So you will have to defend the emitter that the sleeper node is closer to.

sOUNDS LIKE THAT IDEA IS-, That moment when you realize your caps lock is on.

Sounds like that idea is going quite well. The Anti-Emitters will make a protective zone for the player, but also give the player something to defend. Because if the sleeper nullifies an AC Emitter, It will use the power zone to get an extremely powerful unit.
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: TechBot5402 on November 25, 2015, 06:08:04 pm
TechBot5402's Creep Unit Ideas (feel free to credit me):


Nullifier
Health: 1
Purpose: Obliterate the player's advantage by nullifying nearby Anti-emitters.
Description: Same thing as player nullifiers, accept it requires creeper instead of packets.


Reactor
Health: 0
Purpose: Feed surrounding creep units by producing creeper.
Description: A Collector that isn't instantly unlocked and costs more creeper to build, but produces more creeper.


Guppy
Health: 1
Purpose: Get creeper to the front lines faster by manually grabbing it and flying off with it.
Description: Produces a Guppy ship which sucks up creeper on the pad, and drops it by either creep units that need more creeper or in a fully undefended area.
UNNECESSARY: Spore Towers do the same exact thing as Guppies, but instead of manually picking up creeper and dropping on creep units or player units, The Spore Towers just launch the creeper itself. They do have the same A.I., Though.


Sprayer
Health: 1.5
Purpose: Multi-task and do the same jobs as a shield and pulse cannon.
Description: Very similar to the Pulse Cannon, but uses it's "AC Collection Field" to pull in nearby Creeper just like a shield. Very aggressive and likes to attack before other creep units get to the front lines.


Sniper
Health: 1.5
Purpose: Support other creep units by weakening player defenses.
Description: Slow fire rate and consumes a lot of creeper, but launches fast-moving creeper bullets that penetrate through armor and get creeper inside your units, causing a stacking Damage Over Time (DoT) effect. Likes to hide in high-altitude spots that make good sniper nests.


Forge
Health: 5
Purpose: Extend the number of Upgrades the Sleeper can research.
Description: If the Sleeper runs out of techs to research, it will build a Forge and 50% of the Aether will start to go to the forge. The Forge will then research these techs in random order (each tech can be upgraded multiple times):
- Creeper Efficiency
- Creeper Move Speed
- Unit Build Speed
- Unit Move Speed
- Unit Fire Rate
- Unit Fire Range


Elite Tech Lab
Health: 8
Propose: Extend the number of Upgrades the Sleeper can research.
Description: If the Sleeper runs out of techs to research, it will build a Elite Tech Lab and 50% of the Aether will start to go to the lab. The Elite Tech Lab will then research these techs in given order (each tech is unlocked only once):
- Improved Creeper Rate: Collectors, Reactors and Ore Mines produce 75% more creeper
- Quick Reloading Mechanisms: Multiplies Pulse Cannon and Sprayer fire rate by 1.5
- Better Launching Technology: Doubles Motor Range
- Faster Research Systems: Totem Siphons extract Aether 50% faster
- Multi-Targeting Beams: Beam Towers can target an unlimited amount of enemies at once
- Advanced Shields: Shields and Sprayers don't only attract Creeper, but pull it straight towards nearby creep units as well
- Injection Darts: Improves Sniper DoT's DPS by 1.4.
- Airborne Bases: Sleeper Nodes can build creep units when airborne, and they also stay hovering in the air when under attack by more ground units than beam towers
- Creeper Node Construction: Unlock the ability to produce very aggressive Sleeper Nodes at the cost of 5,250 Creeper.




Welp, that's about all i've got. And yes, it did take like 30 minutes to type. Will I wasn't keeping track of how long it took, but this was quite some hard work here. I hope it was worth it, and enjoy.

Also, Happy Thanksgiving!
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Nicant on November 26, 2015, 03:34:32 pm
TechBot5402's Creep Unit Ideas (feel free to credit me):


Nullifier
Health: 1
Purpose: Obliterate the player's advantage by nullifying nearby Anti-emitters.
Description: Same thing as player nullifiers, accept it requires creeper instead of packets.


Reactor
Health: 0
Purpose: Feed surrounding creep units by producing creeper.
Description: A Collector that isn't instantly unlocked and costs more creeper to build, but produces more creeper.


Guppy
Health: 1
Purpose: Get creeper to the front lines faster by manually grabbing it and flying off with it.
Description: Produces a Guppy ship which sucks up creeper on the pad, and drops it by either creep units that need more creeper or in a fully undefended area.
UNNECESSARY: Spore Towers do the same exact thing as Guppies, but instead of manually picking up creeper and dropping on creep units or player units, The Spore Towers just launch the creeper itself. They do have the same A.I., Though.


Sprayer
Health: 1.5
Purpose: Multi-task and do the same jobs as a shield and pulse cannon.
Description: Very similar to the Pulse Cannon, but uses it's "AC Collection Field" to pull in nearby Creeper just like a shield. Very aggressive and likes to attack before other creep units get to the front lines.


Sniper
Health: 1.5
Purpose: Support other creep units by weakening player defenses.
Description: Slow fire rate and consumes a lot of creeper, but launches fast-moving creeper bullets that penetrate through armor and get creeper inside your units, causing a stacking Damage Over Time (DoT) effect. Likes to hide in high-altitude spots that make good sniper nests.


Forge
Health: 5
Purpose: Extend the number of Upgrades the Sleeper can research.
Description: If the Sleeper runs out of techs to research, it will build a Forge and 50% of the Aether will start to go to the forge. The Forge will then research these techs in random order (each tech can be upgraded multiple times):
- Creeper Efficiency
- Creeper Move Speed
- Unit Build Speed
- Unit Move Speed
- Unit Fire Rate
- Unit Fire Range


Elite Tech Lab
Health: 8
Propose: Extend the number of Upgrades the Sleeper can research.
Description: If the Sleeper runs out of techs to research, it will build a Elite Tech Lab and 50% of the Aether will start to go to the lab. The Elite Tech Lab will then research these techs in given order (each tech is unlocked only once):
- Improved Creeper Rate: Collectors, Reactors and Ore Mines produce 75% more creeper
- Quick Reloading Mechanisms: Multiplies Pulse Cannon and Sprayer fire rate by 1.5
- Better Launching Technology: Doubles Motor Range
- Faster Research Systems: Totem Siphons extract Aether 50% faster
- Multi-Targeting Beams: Beam Towers can target an unlimited amount of enemies at once
- Advanced Shields: Shields and Sprayers don't only attract Creeper, but pull it straight towards nearby creep units as well
- Injection Darts: Improves Sniper DoT's DPS by 1.4.
- Airborne Bases: Sleeper Nodes can build creep units when airborne, and they also stay hovering in the air when under attack by more ground units than beam towers
- Creeper Node Construction: Unlock the ability to produce very aggressive Sleeper Nodes at the cost of 5,250 Creeper.




Welp, that's about all i've got. And yes, it did take like 30 minutes to type. Will I wasn't keeping track of how long it took, but this was quite some hard work here. I hope it was worth it, and enjoy.

Also, Happy Thanksgiving!
I made some of these units already but with different functionality. My next sleeper map will include the creep bertha and forge!
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: TechBot5402 on November 26, 2015, 09:28:16 pm
I made some of these units already but with different functionality. My next sleeper map will include the creep bertha and forge!

Alright, i'm interested in seeing your nct sleeper map
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Nicant on November 28, 2015, 04:25:32 pm
Here is the Link BTW  :) https://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=19605.0 (https://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=19605.0)
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: Zoura3025 on June 26, 2016, 01:28:07 pm
For the units, if there was a sprayer, it could work like this:
When idle, disperses creeper like a collector. Upon being attacked (having units com into it's range) it focus fires on one unit until it is destroyed. When firing, it consumes creeper. So it would be kind of a hybrid pulse cannon and collector. (it could also produce creeper and fire at the same time, making tough to take out.)
Title: Re: Sleeper Game Mode
Post by: GoodMorning on June 26, 2016, 10:24:49 pm
The Sprayer has been implemented, along with almost everything else. The only missing units are the Relay and Thor. However, I might do the Relay properly soon, and Nicant has been building the Thor for a while.. When this is done, I'll finish the script for the Corrupter which converts units into their Sleeper counterparts.

The PZ interaction is probably not going to be added, on the grounds that the Sleeper is difficult enough already. Once energy is high enough and defences are complete, only a CForge can produce a threat, and PZs wouldn't help balance that.

The Sleeper is the only opponent which can adapt, and is therefore a great addition. More ideas welcome, but have a go at the most recent Sleeper maps first, to see what has been done.