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Title: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: burguertime on November 22, 2013, 03:25:38 PM
So, what ending is the canon ending?
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Clean0nion on November 22, 2013, 05:23:01 PM
Quote from: burguertime on November 22, 2013, 03:25:38 PM
So, what ending is the canon ending?
And would someone kindly explain it to a non-CW2 player?
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: NNR_Alex on November 22, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
Virgil, feel free to correct me if I'm off base on this.

In a way, they all are.

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This gets into the whole 'multiple universes' thing.  Basically if i understand the ending right, regardless of what side you choose, you get ultimate power, except for the last ending and even then the commander 'awakens' so to speak.

Now consider this, when you deal with multiple universes, that means multiple versions of characters.  So in one reality Skars chose the Loki and became evil and thus became 'who the loki saw when they peeked into another world.' While in other realities, he chose to save humanity and goes on to become Platius and saved a version of his past self.  Either way it seems we get stuck in a bit of a time loop.

For the storyline to make work, both choices have to be made, save humanity, or thirst for ultimate power.  Both paths lead to our protagonist transcending just being a normal human being, into a higher level of existence that can travel between realities.  Thus it also makes sense that their stories aren't contained to just one reality.

This basically means for the ending of the game, regardless of the choice you made, you simply saw 'that worlds canon ending'.

It's normally an easy way out to say all endings are canon, but when you deal with multiverse stuff, it really is true and fitting.


If I am off base, then I look to the epilogue for a clue in which case I'd say siding with Humanity is the canon ending.
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That's my two cents on the topic.

Spoilers are good -G.
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Eketek on November 23, 2013, 10:11:09 PM
Oh, it's all quite revealing...:
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Quote from: NNR_Alex on November 22, 2013, 08:45:06 PM
Virgil, feel free to correct me if I'm off base on this.

In a way, they all are.

Spoiler
This gets into the whole 'multiple universes' thing.  Basically if i understand the ending right, regardless of what side you choose, you get ultimate power, except for the last ending and even then the commander 'awakens' so to speak.

Now consider this, when you deal with multiple universes, that means multiple versions of characters.  So in one reality Skars chose the Loki and became evil and thus became 'who the loki saw when they peeked into another world.' While in other realities, he chose to save humanity and goes on to become Platius and saved a version of his past self.  Either way it seems we get stuck in a bit of a time loop.

For the storyline to make work, both choices have to be made, save humanity, or thirst for ultimate power.  Both paths lead to our protagonist transcending just being a normal human being, into a higher level of existence that can travel between realities.  Thus it also makes sense that their stories aren't contained to just one reality.

This basically means for the ending of the game, regardless of the choice you made, you simply saw 'that worlds canon ending'.

It's normally an easy way out to say all endings are canon, but when you deal with multiverse stuff, it really is true and fitting.


If I am off base, then I look to the epilogue for a clue in which case I'd say siding with Humanity is the canon ending.
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That's my two cents on the topic.

Spoilers are good -G.
The notional multiverse (and variations) has already become a tired cliché, like elbow macaroni, and it serves little other purpose beyond cop-out for scientists who would otherwise have to more explicitly admit the presence of certain intractable problems which are implied by their theories.

It should be much safer just to assume that LIA, Platius, the Creeper, Skarsgard, the Loki, Aliana, Imperator, Thrade, and Council Director #3 are all in a state of superposition with each other, physically, temporally, tactically, and emotionally.

This would also explain why virtually all worlds, despite being hemispherical in appearance from a far vantage point, are actually rectangular in form.
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Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: hbarudi on December 02, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
In this map, you get the choice of skars or loki, I did the skars part, but not the other choice, I tried the loki choice, but I got easily defeated, how do you do the loki choice, want a youtube walkthrough or something of this kind.
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Clean0nion on December 03, 2013, 03:12:53 AM
Quote from: hbarudi on December 02, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
In this map, you get the choice of skars or loki, I did the skars part, but not the other choice, I tried the loki choice, but I got easily defeated, how do you do the loki choice, want a youtube walkthrough or something of this kind.
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I'd been playing Arca for a whole and was bored of the whole thing for that day so I just went Loki.
To win you have to constantly fire at one tower whilst moving around it in a circle. At the same time, dodge any other missiles.
Destroy the missile towers first. Then it's easier to destroy the other towers. I beat it a moment after losing my shield.
Once you lower the Arc's shield it stops attacking.
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Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Grayzzur on December 03, 2013, 10:14:21 AM
Quote from: hbarudi on December 02, 2013, 09:32:18 PM
In this map, ...

Things like that need to be wrapped in spoiler tags.
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...and as was pointed out to me when I made such a statement, there is a 3rd ending.
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Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: burguertime on December 03, 2013, 09:50:27 PM
Grayzzur...

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Quote from: Grayzzur on December 03, 2013, 10:14:21 AM...and as was pointed out to me when I made such a statement, there is a 3rd ending.

There is the good ending, the evil ending, and the BAMF ending.
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Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: burguertime on December 03, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
Ah, now I get it.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/CW3_canon_ending.png/833px-CW3_canon_ending.png)

Follow the link below to wikimedia commons where the full size file is hosted.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CW3_canon_ending.png (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CW3_canon_ending.png)
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Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Michionlion on December 04, 2013, 08:52:36 AM
I don't....  that just really messed up my head.
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Clean0nion on December 04, 2013, 11:53:19 AM
Quote from: burguertime on December 03, 2013, 11:04:34 PM
Ah, now I get it.
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(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/51/CW3_canon_ending.png/833px-CW3_canon_ending.png)
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CW3_canon_ending.png
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Ugh, me no finish read, diagram too hard, ME THUMBS DOWN.
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Michionlion on December 04, 2013, 12:30:36 PM
I had a hard time figuring out where to start....
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Clean0nion on December 04, 2013, 12:35:46 PM
Quote from: Michionlion on December 04, 2013, 12:30:36 PM
I had a hard time figuring out where to start....
I think you start at the top of the left loop and work your way down, crossing over to the next loop if you feel like it
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: burguertime on December 04, 2013, 01:43:17 PM
you can follow the link to wikimedia commons to read a bigger version.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CW3_canon_ending.png (https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:CW3_canon_ending.png)
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: NNR_Alex on December 04, 2013, 09:26:42 PM
Gotta love a good flow chart.
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: Shimizu on December 06, 2013, 11:31:43 AM
Flowchart totally blew my mind -_____-
Title: Re: What is the Canon Ending to CW3? [Possible unmarked spoilers in replies]
Post by: uncopy2002 on December 29, 2016, 07:08:30 PM
The flow chart has been deleted (presumably because it was hostly on wikimedia instead of, say, knucklecracker wiki) and there doesn't seem to be a backup on the internet :(

I really want to revisit the flow chart again, so perhaps anyone who has a backup can reupload it?