Knuckle Cracker

This weeks theme will be a subcategory of the natural disasters theme proposed by Katra:

Deadliest volcanic eruptions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_natural_disasters#Volcanic_eruptions)

The maps to be played before Sunday September 19 at midnight (forum time) are:

Map	Date	Volcano	Country	People killed
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	Mount Tambora	Indonesia	92,000
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	Krakatoa	Indonesia	36,000
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	Vesuvius	Italy	33,000
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	Mount Pelée	Martinique	29,000
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	Nevado del Ruiz	Columbia	23,000

The winner (best combined score) gets to pick next weeks theme. See here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4621.0) for the rules and an overview of themes.

Please post your progress/total scores in this topic to ease the calculations at the end of the week.

Good luck and enjoy! :)

1. April 10, 1815               9677 2min 0sec
2. August 27, 1883            8464 10min 53sec
3. August 24, 79                9100 5min 56sec
4. May 7, 1902                   9518 3min 2sec
5. November 13, 1985

Total: 36759 21min 51sec

Quote from: Fisherck on September 13, 2010, 10:45:11 AM
Okay. I got 1 map in this morning.

1. April 10, 1815               9677 2min 0sec

I should have known my 4 minutes wasn't going to stand for long... :(

let's see if i can beat l'ythelle this time! :D

if she is also coming this time, at least...

She's already busy beating you again, see here (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5).... ;)

Dang, I thought 4:14 was good... I'll work on it. As far as I can tell, #2 won't go that fast... that map is rough.

#2 will be hard. also KEES, look again ;)

I'm in:

April 10 1815:         9692 1min 54 (I'll probably get a better score if I micro-manage some more).


May 7 1902:           9607     2min 27
November 13 1985: 9466     3min 23

Quote from: RandyTravis on September 13, 2010, 12:24:19 PM
As far as I can tell, #2 won't go that fast... that map is rough.

Quote from: ontheworld on September 13, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
#2 will be hard.

Yep, for this map I had the choice between August 26 and August 27 (see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_natural_disasters#Volcanic_eruptions)). Because I think we all agree most Chronom maps are rather easy I picked the hardest one. I hope you don't mind. ;D

Quote from: ontheworld on September 13, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
also KEES, look again ;)

Heheh! Nice to see you improve (but don't forget L'ythelle can replay her maps ;)). Also good to see you can still compete with eachother, even when you're not the fastest player (yet).

good to see you can still compete with eachother, even when you're not the fastest player (yet).
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As it is said in this song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55fpsbzAfk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u55fpsbzAfk)

"never was and never will be"

I'll give it a shot in CW 2, since that game will work completely different.
Still though, i prefer playing such indie games relaxed.

Quote from: ontheworld on September 13, 2010, 03:59:13 PM
Still though, i prefer playing such indie games relaxed.

Whatever you like, as long as you have fun! :) Just improving yourself can be very satisfying as well; I find it very rewarding to see when I get a little better every week, even when the top players of a game are much better than me. Just beating them once a month can be a lot of fun, even when I lose 100 other times.  8)

 
My results so far:

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9713	1:46
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	8542	10:14
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	9283	4:38
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	9648	2:11
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9556	2:47
	Totals:	46742	22:06

#2...
  OMFG!!!!

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 13, 2010, 12:54:19 PM

Quote from: RandyTravis on September 13, 2010, 12:24:19 PM
As far as I can tell, #2 won't go that fast... that map is rough.

Quote from: ontheworld on September 13, 2010, 12:42:43 PM
#2 will be hard.

Yep, for this map I had the choice between August 26 and August 27 (see here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadliest_natural_disasters#Volcanic_eruptions)). Because I think we all agree most Chronom maps are rather easy I picked the hardest one. I hope you don't mind. ;D

Quote from: IcEcAt on September 13, 2010, 06:52:23 PM
#2...
 OMFG!!!!

Yep I feel ya.....

#2 is probably the best Chronom map I've yet encountered.

Quote from: Karsten75 on September 13, 2010, 07:23:47 PM
#2 is probably the best Chronom map I've yet encountered.

Yeah, it's pretty ironic you have to sit on top of Mount Krakatoa to survive! ;)

I apologize UpperKEES, But I could not enjoy these maps without a little Double Down, And I must say, It was very fun Playing these maps. And I couldn't be more happy about the score I got.

So you've only played map #1? That's the easiest one. Try map #2 if you're up for a real challenge!

NB: when you can finish a map while the pools are still filling up, it doesn't actually matter that much whether you've got DD-mode turned on or off.

Number 2 is not that hard, Although I must say that out of all the maps, It has made me move odin city, Normally I act too fast for the creeper to reach me, but on map 2.....Odin city is in a really bad spot.

So where's your score? Show us how easy it is! :P

And whether you're too fast for the creeper or not, it's almost always a wise choice to move OC to a location closer to the totems and/or upgrades.

I has made me use the cheap tactic of building up then attacking, in which case, that means it is actually a hard map. Usually, I build up at the same time I attack, But this map is special, Now in a couple Minutes my score will be posted, please be patient.

Quote from: Mare on September 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
I has made me use the cheap tactic of building up then attacking, in which case, that means it is actually a hard map.

Cheap? Hmmm, I guess I'm pretty cheap then.... ;)

Quote from: Mare on September 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
Usually, I build up at the same time I attack

You may wish to reconsider. It's a good thing to have both your defensive and offensive force ready before you engage the enemy. Especially in CW it really pays off to manage your energy wisely.

Quote from: Mare on September 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
But this map is special, Now in a couple Minutes my score will be posted, please be patient.

Okay, I can do that. :)

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 13, 2010, 10:51:57 PM

Quote from: Mare on September 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
I has made me use the cheap tactic of building up then attacking, in which case, that means it is actually a hard map.

Cheap? Hmmm, I guess I'm pretty cheap then.... ;)

Quote from: Mare on September 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
Usually, I build up at the same time I attack

You may wish to reconsider. It's a good thing to have both your defensive and offensive force ready before you engage the enemy. Especially in CW it really pays off to manage your energy wisely.

Quote from: Mare on September 13, 2010, 10:38:48 PM
But this map is special, Now in a couple Minutes my score will be posted, please be patient.

Okay, I can do that. :)

By building up and attacking, I meant something along the lines of, Going to the safest spot on the map, And spam reactors until your energy goes high Like crazy. That is like, one of the greatest, most cheapest tactics, And I only use it as a last resort, when all else fails.......

Quote from: Mare on September 13, 2010, 11:08:26 PM
By building up and attacking, I meant something along the lines of, Going to the safest spot on the map, And spam reactors until your energy goes high Like crazy. That is like, one of the greatest, most cheapest tactics, And I only use it as a last resort, when all else fails.......

Yeah, I know you prefer doing things the hard way. :P On a custom map most map makers will prevent such a save spot (by limiting its space), but on most Chronom maps you'll find a location like that. Don't forget however you're putting the lives of all 50,000 Odin residents at stake when fighting as reckless as you do! ;) Besides that it's not the best approach for a fast time, but if you have most fun doing so I wouldn't change it either. When I played the Conquest missions 8 months ago I always capped every emitter and made the map completely green before activating the rift. You got to do what you got to do!

so after a day of balancing my daughter and playing cw when she was sleeping, here are my scores.

       April 10, 1815         9242   04min 55sec
    August 27, 1883         6293   35min 20sec
    August 24, 0079         7882   16min 07sec
        May 07, 1902         7948   15min 29sec
November 13, 1985         8181   13min 20sec

now lets see if i can improve my times. i still havent figured out how to get those wicked low times, but i am better then i was last week.
(THROW ME A BONE HERE PEOPLE!)

I hate easy wins, Theres no fun in it unless it you do it the difficult way.

Quote from: IcEcAt on September 14, 2010, 12:09:25 AM
(THROW ME A BONE HERE PEOPLE!)

(http://www.deblauweark.be/UserFiles/image/dog-bone.jpg)

Quote from: Mare on September 14, 2010, 12:10:03 AM
I hate easy wins, Theres no fun in it unless it you do it the difficult way.

In that case you have 3 options:

1. Make it difficult on yourself by playing less effective.
2. Play harder maps.
3. Try to beat a map as fast as possible.

Options 2 & 3 appeal more to me. ;)

I managed to finish them all. Can't figure out how some of you manage those really short times.

1. April 10, 1815               9316 4min 24sec
2. August 27, 1883           8097  14min 6sec  (Just wondering where you moved the city to. I've actually completed it from both sides of the pool.)
3. August 24, 79              8932   7min 10 sec
4. May 7, 1902                 9216  5min 2sec
5. November 13, 1985       9263   4min  46sec

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 14, 2010, 12:54:30 AM

Quote from: IcEcAt on September 14, 2010, 12:09:25 AM
(THROW ME A BONE HERE PEOPLE!)

(http://www.deblauweark.be/UserFiles/image/dog-bone.jpg)

Thank you sir

Quote from: Katra on September 14, 2010, 01:01:22 AM
Can't figure out how some of you manage those really short times.

I'm sure the winners of individual maps will reveal their strategy when the tournament has finished, like we did last time. Only not sure about Miss Melissa though; she prefers to keep her strategies to herself normally (which is her good right of course).

I'm not as good as some of you guys, but here's my shot at it so far...

1. April 10, 1815 - 9256 - 4 min 49 sec
2. August 27, 1883 - 6845 - 27 min 39 sec
3. August 24, 79 - 7950 - 15 min 28 sec
4. May 7, 1902 - 8438 - 11 min 6 sec
5. November 13, 1985 - 8411 - 11 min 20 sec

Total: 40900 - 70 min 22 sec

Hmm. Gotta cut down the time on #2. That one is hard. Maybe shave 3 and 5 as well.

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10th, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9528	2:58
2.	August 27th, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	8153	13:35
3.	August 24th, 0079 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	8948	7:03
4.	May 7th, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	9297	4:32
5.	November 13th, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9141	5:38
	Totals	45067	33:46

my results:

1. April 10,         1815 - 9125   -   5 min 45 sec
2. August 27,     1883 - 7147- 23 min 57 sec
3. August 24,     79    - 8281 - 12 min 27 sec
4. May 7,          1902 - 8932 -   7 min 10 sec
5. November 13, 1985 - 8701 -   8 min 57sec

total: 42,186

this is the most effort i ever put into any competition... on the pc

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 14, 2010, 12:54:30 AM

In that case you have 3 options:

1. Make it difficult on yourself by playing less effective.
2. Play harder maps.
3. Try to beat a map as fast as possible.

Options 2 & 3 appeal more to me. ;)

I usually play less effectively, sometimes I go to the deepest and flattest plain on the map.

Quote from: Mare on September 14, 2010, 06:22:37 PM
I usually play less effectively, sometimes I go to the deepest and flattest plain on the map.

You should make some more customs maps and force the player to fight like that as well. Could be a very hard (and pleasant) battle. :)

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10th, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9685	1.57
2.	August 27th, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	8097	14.06
3.	August 24th, 0079 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	8829	7:57
4.	May 7th, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	9388	4.15
5.	November 13th, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9466	3.23
	Totals	45465	31.38

Enjoyed that. Played 1 a good few times to finally get a decent score. The rest I need to look at again :P

Edit: Did 1883 again. Bit better now. Mind you, not that much better, 3 mins off and only 300 pts better because of the way it scores.

I assume it is the score as opposed to the time?

Edit again: carved a minute off 1985.

Edit again, did 1902 a bit better

Quote from: RichieRich on September 15, 2010, 04:44:22 AM
I assume it is the score as opposed to the time?

Yes, the accumulated scores will be compared. This means that gaining one minute on a fast map will give you more extra points than gaining one minute on a slower map (which is fair I think, because that's a lot harder).

Nice to see you joined in! :)

Have to say am enjoying this. Nice to have a few maps to think about how to improve and also, the bridging requirements are good learning.

Quote from: RichieRich on September 15, 2010, 09:53:53 AM
the bridging requirements are good learning.

Yes, this technique is course not mandatory, but on some maps it really helps. It had been a while that I used it myself (because I don't like custom maps that require it), but using OC to connect to the last totem just saves a lot of time in certain cases.

QuoteMy results so far:

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9679	1:59
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	8141	13:42
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	9169	5:26
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	9559	2:46
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9508	3:06
	Totals:	46056	26:59

Table design by UpperKEES

I stole your table. Please forgive me :D

Quote from: Alwego on September 15, 2010, 12:48:41 PM
I stole your table. Please forgive me :D

Heheh, you're not the first, but I actually like that. :)

Very nice times for a first run, Alwego!  8)

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 15, 2010, 01:20:14 PM
Very nice times for a first run, Alwego!  8)

This is first time, when i show my results ;-)
I do not think I would fight for another second, if this do not give me a better position:)

Quote from: Alwego on September 15, 2010, 01:29:34 PM
I do not think I would fight for another second, if this do not give me a better position:)

Good point, but don't forget Sqaz, Fisherck & Miss Melissa for instance haven't completed all of their maps yet. I expect some pretty decent times from them.

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 15, 2010, 01:32:42 PM

Good point, but don't forget Sqaz, Fisherck & Miss Melissa for instance haven't completed all of their maps yet. I expect some pretty decent times from them.

Yep, beware for me (this is still my fist run, didn't had enough time to complete them all in once):

April 10 1815:         9692     1min 54 (I'll probably get a better score if I micro-manage some more).

August 24 79:         8966     6min 55 (Yes, I know, terrible score, but remember it's just my first run)
May 7 1902:           9607     2min 27
November 13 1985: 9466     3min 23

hmm, I'll give this a try

[scores will be coming]

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 15, 2010, 01:20:14 PM

Quote from: Alwego on September 15, 2010, 12:48:41 PM
I stole your table. Please forgive me :D

Heheh, you're not the first, but I actually like that. :)

Very nice times for a first run, Alwego!  8)

I was going to steal it at first, but then decided to make my own =].

Quote from: RandyTravis on September 15, 2010, 09:18:24 PM
I was going to steal it at first, but then decided to make my own =].

Ah, that explains a few tiny differences.

I recommend anybody to copy it (just quote a post by Randy, Richie, Alwego or me) as this will save some time at the end of the week.

We have 18 participants at the moment, yeah! :)

my scores
Date             |Score
------------------
04-10-1815|9323

My scores are terrible. I just had a long week at work and didnt have the time to try to do any better. I just wanted to finish. I cant wait to see how you guys and gals got the impossible (at least for me) low scores. Anyway here goes:

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9218	5:05
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	5847	42:37
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	7733	17:35
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	8342	11:55
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	7815	16:46

Total 38955



Table design by UpperKEES

I wasn't going to post my scores, but it appears that I might not come in last after all.

Kees: Next time, why not add a field at the bottom of your chart that automatically totals the scores?  ::)

Edit: I found some code for a "totals" line. I must say, I am immensly pleased with myself for splicing in the correct lines of code with only the slightest clue what it all means.  ;D   (Still doesn't total automatically though.)

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9299	4:31
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	6387	33:56
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	8569	10:01
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	8999	6:40
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9090	6:00
	Totals:	42344	61:08

Even though Krakatoa did not kill as many people, it was the bigger of the explosions.

Also after examining the scores for the Krakatoa map, it appears the map reflects the explosion correctly. :)

   so here are my newest scores. i would like to thank cw, top gear (way to many hours watched while playing cw) and the people who post useful information on these here forums.
   "huh? what?!?! I didn't take first place? ...

      ...oh!"

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9453	3:28
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	6565	31:23
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	8512	10:29
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	8647	9:23
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	8959	6:58

Total                           42136   61:41


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[tr][td]1.[/td][td][url=http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5]April 10, 1815[/url][/td][td][right]9453[/right][/td][td][right]  3:28[/right][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]2.[/td][td][url=http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3]August 27, 1883[/url][/td][td][right]6565[/right][/td][td][right]  31:23[/right][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]3.[/td][td][url=http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9]August 24, 79[/url][/td][td][right]8512[/right][/td][td][right]  10:29[/right][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]4.[/td][td][url=http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2]May 7, 1902[/url][/td][td][right]8647[/right][/td][td][right]  9:23[/right][/td][/tr]
[tr][td]5.[/td][td][url=http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5]November 13, 1985[/url][/td][td][right]8959[/right][/td][td][right]  6:58[/right][/td][/tr]
[tr][td][hr][/td][td][hr][/td][td][hr][/td][td][hr][/td][/tr][/table]
Total                           42136   61:41


how did you actually use this mess of code? (part of it is that i just don't get it)

Quote from: Pyxis_GeeK on September 18, 2010, 07:32:31 PM
I cant wait to see how you guys and gals got the impossible (at least for me) low scores.

I'll post a screeny tomorrow with description for every map that I finish at #1.

Quote from: L'ythelle on September 18, 2010, 08:53:08 PM
Kees: Next time, why not add a field at the bottom of your chart that automatically totals the scores?  ::)

Edit: I found some code for a "totals" line. I must say, I am immensly pleased with myself for splicing in the correct lines of code with only the slightest clue what it all means.  ;D   (Still doesn't total automatically though.)

Not sure how to do this with bb-codes, if possible at all. Maybe Echo51 is the right person to ask as he wrote a rainbow script a couple of weeks ago. Believe me, I'd love to have a self-calculating total!

Quote from: Kamron3 on September 18, 2010, 09:37:44 PM
Even though Krakatoa did not kill as many people, it was the bigger of the explosions.

Also after examining the scores for the Krakatoa map, it appears the map reflects the explosion correctly. :)

Nah, the Tambora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tambora) was really the biggest explosion as well. Its eruption let to the year without summer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer).

Quote from: thepenguin on September 19, 2010, 06:59:17 AM
how did you actually use this mess of code? (part of it is that i just don't get it)

table = start table
tr = start table row
td = start table cell
url = hyperlink (to the map page of the according date)
left, right & center are alignments
hr = horizontal line
/ = end code

But you don't have to get it, just quote a post and replace the values. ;)

Everybody good luck until tonight! :)

guess i'll go shave some minutes off now...

Okay, I finally finished all 5. :) I might be able to shave a bit more time off these, but that is only if I have time to do it.

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9716	1:45
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	8464	10:53
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	9100	5:56
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	9518	3:02
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9463	3:24

Total                           46261   25:00

table design by UpperKEES

I actually have first for a map. Maybe by one second, but still first. ;D

QuoteMy results so far:

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9679	1:59
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	8534	10:18
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	9195	5:15
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	9559	2:46
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9508	3:06
	Totals:	46475	23:24

Table design by UpperKEES

Quote from: Fisherck on September 19, 2010, 12:38:05 PM
I actually have first for a map. Maybe by one second, but still first. ;D

Hmmm, if you get a few more firsts (just by one second) I may not like it.... ;)

And Sqaz, where's your score for map 2? You're not gonna submit a super score at 23:59, are you? :P

Quote

Quote from: Kamron3 on September 18, 2010, 09:37:44 PM
Even though Krakatoa did not kill as many people, it was the bigger of the explosions.

Also after examining the scores for the Krakatoa map, it appears the map reflects the explosion correctly. :)

Nah, the Tambora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tambora) was really the biggest explosion as well. Its eruption let to the year without summer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer).

Yeah I know, I've done all the research. Mount Tambora DID infact explode and it was very tremendous, however, it wasn't the only thing that caused the Year without a Summer. Chains of heavy explosions around the world helped.

I wish I could've lived during the Year Without A Summer; it would've been epic.

Also, if such a thing happened right now... yeah... entire governments would collapse I assume.

Well this it. Unfortunately, it is all I have time for. Hopefully next week I will have more time. Then you better watch out (unless your UpperKEES). :D

Map	Date	Score	Time
1.	April 10, 1815 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=3&day=10&year1=1&year2=8&year3=1&year4=5)	9716	1:45
2.	August 27, 1883 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=27&year1=1&year2=8&year3=8&year4=3)	8464	10:53
3.	August 24, 79 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=7&day=24&year1=0&year2=0&year3=7&year4=9)	9171	5:25
4.	May 7, 1902 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=4&day=7&year1=1&year2=9&year3=0&year4=2)	9518	3:02
5.	November 13, 1985 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewscores.php?missionGroup=chronom&month=10&day=13&year1=1&year2=9&year3=8&year4=5)	9463	3:24

Total                           46132   24:29

table design by UpperKEES

1. April 10, 1815               9316 4min 24sec
2. August 27, 1883           8106  14min 1sec 
3. August 24, 79              8932   7min 10 sec
4. May 7, 1902                 9216  5min 2sec
5. November 13, 1985       9263   4min  46sec

I just can't manage to take anything significant off my times.

Here are the results, totals at the right. If anyone wants to format it, they can  ;D


Rank   Player   1902   1985   0079   1883   1815   Total
      Score   Score   Score   Score   Score   Score
1   UpperKEES   9648   9556   9283   8542   9713   46742
2   Alwego   9559   9508   9195   8534   9679   46475
3   fisherck   9518   9463   9171   8464   9716   46332
4   Richie Rich   9338   9466   8829   8097   9685   45415
5   RandyTravis   9297   9141   8948   8153   9528   45067
6   Katra   9216   9263   8932   8106   9316   44833
7   snowmaker (JM)   9235   8984   8946   8302   9355   44822
8   L'ythelle   8999   9090   8569   6387   9299   42344
9   ontheworld   8932   8701   8281   7147   9125   42186
10   IcEcAt   8647   8959   8512   6565   9453   42136
11   Nate Dog   8438   8411   7950   6845   9256   40900
12   Mare (DD)   8178   8283   7551   7161   8716   39889
13   Pyxis_GeeK   8342   7815   7733   5847   9218   38955
14   sqaz   9607   9466   8966      9692   37731
15   Karsten75         8904   8015   9458   26377
16   THEPENGUIN               9323   9323
17   Anonymous               9072   9072
18   Miss Melissa            8508      8508

Thanks Richie!

Tournament Results

Rank	Player	Total Score
1.	UpperKEES	46742
2.	Alwego	46475
3.	Fisherck	46332
4.	Richie Rich	45415
5.	RandyTravis	45067
6.	Katra	44833
7.	snowmaker (JM)	44822
8.	L'ythelle	42344
9.	ontheworld	42186
10.	IcEcAt	42136
11.	Nate Dog	40900
12.	Mare	39889
13.	Pyxis_Geek	38955
14.	Sqaz	37731*
15.	Karsten75	26377*
16.	THEPENGUIN	09323*
17.	Anonymous	09072*
18.	Miss Melissa	08508*

* Did not finish all maps.


Next weeks theme will be: computer (game) inventions (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4801.0).

I suggest that if next weeks tournament has the same winner (3 times in a row), the runner up (#2) can pick the theme, so themes will come from different people.

Well done KEES,

Re my score, I took the scores from the results and totalled them in excel. I am 50 points short compared to your total. How did you work that out?

Re the suggestion, excellent idea. :D

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 20, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
Next weeks theme will be: computer(game) inventions. Link will follow soon.

I suggest that if next weeks tournament has the same winner (3 times in a row), the runner up (#2) can pick the theme so themes will come from different people.

Be sure to include July 26, 2009 if you're using that theme!

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 20, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
Thanks Richie! (You only gave yourself too little points. ;))

Quote from: RichieRich on September 20, 2010, 07:22:11 AM
Re my score, I took the scores from the results and totalled them in excel. I am 50 points short compared to your total. How did you work that out?

Oh, I assumed your scores on page 3 of this topic were correct.... :P Changed it back....

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 20, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
I suggest that if next weeks tournament has the same winner (3 times in a row), the runner up (#2) can pick the theme so themes will come from different people.

Quote from: RichieRich on September 20, 2010, 07:22:11 AM
Re the suggestion, excellent idea. :D

Great, I hope others agree as well. :)

Quote from: mthw2vc on September 20, 2010, 07:27:36 AM

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 20, 2010, 07:15:03 AM
Next weeks theme will be: computer(game) inventions.

Be sure to include July 26, 2009 if you're using that theme!

I'm sorry, dates have already been published (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4801.0). I suggest you win next tournament to be able to include that map. ;)

As promised my solutions:

(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4715.0;attach=1476;image)

Map 1: forget about the upgrades. Just build collectors as indicated. Build a blaster and move it up. Only let it fire when needed. Simultaneously build a SAM and let it bridge (flying!) while building your last collector. Of course relays are also possible here, but 2 collectors + 1 SAM cost the same, give you energy and build faster! (Why am I not surprised Fisherck beat my time on this one? ;))

(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4715.0;attach=1478;image)

Map 2: first build 2 collectors as indicated. Then add reactor by reactor on the island. Use the last 3 spots for 2 mortars and 1 blaster.

(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4715.0;attach=1480;image)

When you clear some area below the island build a second blaster and 2 collectors. Move weapons down and add more reactors. Use the second blaster to clear space to the right. Start building the long supply line to the right totem (I could again have used 2 collectors + 1 SAM to bridge the gap, but I was lazy here ;)). Keep adding reactors and build a third blaster on the left to stop the creeper from flowing inland. Cover the mainland with collectors until you have about 10 energy. Build a bunch of blasters and cross to the left totem. Charge the middle totem with OC. I also tried starting at the right side and follow the bottom of my screen. I got exactly the same time (10:14)!

(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4715.0;attach=1482;image)

Map 3: pick up the upgrades. Cover all of the mainland by collectors (didn't do that on above screeny). Build a mortar to keep the creeper at bay. Build 6 blasters and cross to the upper totem. Build a 7th one (could have been a SAM) and bridge with OC to the last totem. Forgot to add a storage unit + 2 speed nodes on above screeny, sorry for that.

(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4715.0;attach=1484;image)

Map 4: pick up 2 upgrades. Build all collectors as indicated. Pick up 3rd upgrade (fly faster!). Build 2 blasters and move them to indicated spots. Build final collector to bottom totem. Charge 2 totems. Fly OC to connect to upper totem.

(http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=4715.0;attach=1486;image)

Map 5: pick up 2 upgrades. Build all collectors, but give some priority to the drone, so it finishes in time. Add a storage to connect both sides of the network. Let the drone bomb the second emitter from the top while the blasters just finish. Build a collector to the upper totem while OC flies to the bottom totem and charges it while in the air.

Im such a newb.... I just never think to bridge.... I see now how the low times are possible. I guess 13th isnt so bad......... I can only improve right?

Thanks kees.

Edit: Fixed a typo.

Bridging is an must to many maps to get an good score ,
but it's alot of work sometimes ,
spes if you have to bridge more than 1 spot =P

What exactly does bridging mean, and why use sams on a non-spore map to bridge?

SAMS are cheap. 10 packets to construct I think. Bridging is using an unit "SAM" to connect to otherwise unreachable ground. In UpperKEES first picture look how the SAM is flying over creeper but it is still connected to the network.

thank you UpperKEES for the insight to how you think. i guess the next round will be tighter in the scoring area

Quote from: Pyxis_GeeK on September 20, 2010, 12:23:40 PM
SAMS are cheap. 10 packets to construct I think. Bridging is using an unit "SAM" to connect to otherwise unreachable ground. In UpperKEES first picture look how the SAM is flying over creeper but it is still connected to the network.

Oh okay. Sounds good. Cos blasters are like 5 more or something.

Quote from: RandyTravis on September 20, 2010, 12:19:16 PM
What exactly does bridging mean, and why use sams on a non-spore map to bridge?

Bridging is when you span a gap between (often) two collectors by a flying unit. Sometimes you can drop it temporarily into the creeper, but I wouldn't do this with a SAM, because it can take very little damage. When you combine that flying unit with Odin City you can even bridge larger distances. In fact it's even possible to use a flying unit on both sides of OC to span a gap as wide as 3 relays (up to 32 blocks)!

SAMs cost 20 energy, which is 5 cheaper than a blaster. When I don't need the bridging unit for fighting (i.e. earlier in the game) I often use a SAM.

Quote from: IcEcAt on September 20, 2010, 12:26:00 PM
thank you UpperKEES for the insight to how you think. i guess the next round will be tighter in the scoring area

You're welcome. :) I hope you all won't give me a very hard time now. ;)

 hi  (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewmaps.php?author=hi) has made some lesson maps ,
and one of them is about bridging .
Here it is :
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/thumb.php?id=774)
Lesson2 (Bridging)  (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/mapcomments.php?id=774&page=)

of course... all the totems taking most time are simply bridged here. figures.

and here is my solution on map 2:

yes KEES i did ignore the 'go for the totems dirsctly' advice since it was too hard for me =P

Your first picture shows 2 SAMs. Why build your SAMs before you need them? Every unit generating energy (collector/reactor) should be build before weapons are really needed. I build my SAMs when the spore indicator tells me I have 25 seconds left. ;) The first weapons you need for map 2 are those who offer you more space to expand for more energy.

And by the way: I really hope you didn't build all these reactors simultaneously....

Thats funny, for krackatoa I moved the city next to the very right totem. I found that little hill next to the city inadequite. :)

Quote from: Fisherck on September 20, 2010, 08:17:30 PM
Thats funny, for krackatoa I moved the city next to the very right totem. I found that little hill next to the city inadequite. :)

Yeah, I tried the same:

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 20, 2010, 09:25:02 AM
I also tried starting at the right side and follow the bottom of my screen. I got exactly the same time (10:14)!

There's more space available, but you have to fight earlier to defend it, so I guess that balances everything out.

KEES, i suck at micro, so i have about 40 on the timer when i finish the sams

Quote from: ontheworld on September 21, 2010, 08:36:49 AM
KEES, i suck at micro, so i have about 40 on the timer when i finish the sams

Yeah, but you can easily fill up that little island with I think 2 minutes leftbefore the spores arrive. You'll see that your growth will be a lot faster when you build reactors instead. No problem if you use 40 seconds instead of 25 to build your SAMs (no micromanaging involved), but I would concentrate on gaining more energy as long as possible. Just a tip....

Quote from: Kamron3 on September 19, 2010, 10:54:00 PM

Quote

Quote from: Kamron3 on September 18, 2010, 09:37:44 PM
Even though Krakatoa did not kill as many people, it was the bigger of the explosions.

Also after examining the scores for the Krakatoa map, it appears the map reflects the explosion correctly. :)

Nah, the Tambora (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_Tambora) was really the biggest explosion as well. Its eruption let to the year without summer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Year_Without_a_Summer).

Yeah I know, I've done all the research. Mount Tambora DID infact explode and it was very tremendous, however, it wasn't the only thing that caused the Year without a Summer. Chains of heavy explosions around the world helped.

I wish I could've lived during the Year Without A Summer; it would've been epic.

Also, if such a thing happened right now... yeah... entire governments would collapse I assume.

Edvard Munch (from Norway) painted his famous work The Scream after observing a blood red sky due to the 1883 eruption of the Krakatoa volcano when overlooking the Oslo-fjord (at the other side of the world!). See here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4990) to play my version of this painting.