Knuckle Cracker

This week all maps have experimental weapons. Let the dark beam knuckle down to work.

A few useful links:
All Tournaments (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7410.0)
Code Map Scoreboard (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewscores.php)
Tournament Score Tool (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7477.0)

Theme:
Experimental Week



   
   
   
   
   
   

Map Name:	Size:	Complexity:
night one song	Small	Medium
after two apple	Medium	Medium
funny car coat	Small	High
street we said	Medium	High
garden were from	Large	High

Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Rank	Name	night one song	after two apple	funny car coat	street we said	garden were from	Total Score	Total Time
1	ea3401	11883	11785	11651	11981	11107	58407	23:36
2	asmussen	11317	11041	10238	11523	10810	54929	50:57
3	Wheatmidge	10729		10140	11598	10684	43151
4	dt42	10822	10788	9854	11187		42651
5	mopa42		11549		11613	10850	34012
6	ctuna			10149	11370	10442	31961
7	samefaen	9911	10420		9987		30318
8	Gu250				11032		11032
9	Atomicfrog					10182	10182

Scores recorded at 2013-02-17 19:23:50 forum time.

Well, at least we know they should all be possible, now. Funny car coat was the only one I looked at and wasn't sure if I was going to be able to complete. :P

Yeah, the 3rd mission is really hard, but definitely not impossible. :)

funny car coat was fun... I really should have went for a better time.. but I defended myself and then just built tech labs and researched stuff for ten minutes then pushed out. I didn't even end up using a dark beam, just conversion bombs and blasters

I'd love a screenshot on funny car coat.  I can't seem to get enough energy to do much of anything.

Here's my pic. I think at about the 13 minute point the repulsors couldn't hold back the creeper anymore... but ea3401 beat the level in 6 minutes i think... so there must be a MUCH more effective way than my 18 minute time.

Wow.  You really did dig in.  I tried a similar approach above ground but couldn't stay alive long enough.  Thanks!

If it were me (just looking at the map, not actually having played through it) - I would probably try to conversion bomb the bottom-right emitter ASAP (ideally before the walls break through, though I'm not certain you could do it quite that fast) - it's a significantly higher intensity emitter than the middle emitter, so the anti-creeper bubble will last for quite a while if you use shields well, and if you let some of the anti-creeper through to the top it can let you defend without needing repulsors too.

Continually rebuild shields if necessary (ie. if you still need to build more reactors and the anti-creeper on it's own wouldn't last long enough) whenever they break and the anti-creeper flows through - this way you can minimize the damage the anti-creeper takes by only making it take damage from the creeper for a few seconds each time the shields break.

So, I finally beat that ugly thing.  I started out like Wheatmidge--digging in. But I focused on reactors and not tech, so that I could build conversion bombs.  I managed to knock out the two emitters by the ten minute mark using mostly conversion bombs plus a few blasters, shields, & repulsors.  I should've done a much quicker job mopping up, and I finally built a dark beam to take out the last separate emitter.  But it was ugly and I think could've been done much more quickly. 

I used the dark beam to clean the top area from time to time, while I was building a second base on left side.

I was thinking more along the lines of this:

Spoiler

(http://i.imgur.com/A72gxhp.png)

[close]

I stopped at that point because I don't like micromanaging dark beams - way too tedious for me.

In case of no more change in the next hours, the baton will be passed to Shawn Asmussen.

Quote from: ea3401 on February 13, 2013, 06:50:40 PM
I used the dark beam to clean the top area from time to time, while I was building a second base on left side.

Congratulations, ea3401. I'd love to see how you got the dark beam to function effectively with so little energy on the right side, and how you got from the pictured status to completion in the next 2 minutes. I must be missing some basic concepts here.

Here's the results table. Only two people able to complete all maps!

Results Per Player


   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   

Rank	Name	night one song	after two apple	funny car coat	street we said	garden were from	Total Score	Total Time
1	ea3401	11883	11785	11651	11981	11107	58407	23:36
2	asmussen	11317	11041	10238	11523	10810	54929	50:57
3	mopa42		11549	10138	11613	10850	44150
4	Wheatmidge	10729		10140	11598	10684	43151
5	ctuna		11025	10149	11370	10442	42986
6	dt42	10822	10788	9854	11187		42651
7	samefaen	9911	10420		9987		30318
8	Gu250				11032		11032
9	Atomicfrog					10182	10182

Scores recorded at 2013-02-18 00:01:53 forum time.

Quote from: mopa42 on February 18, 2013, 12:03:13 AM
...Only two people able to complete all maps!

Even worse, only 9 players posting a total of only 31 scores - the lowest participation I've seen.

Quote from: Helper on February 18, 2013, 05:39:19 AM

Quote from: mopa42 on February 18, 2013, 12:03:13 AM
...Only two people able to complete all maps!

Even worse, only 9 players posting a total of only 31 scores - the lowest participation I've seen.

For me, it was the frustration of running from the drones and the flood of creeper at the beginning of each mission. Tedious. Took more time and restarts than I had patience. Also, seeing some of ea's times left me discouraged - don't see how to do that well.

Quote from: ctuna on February 18, 2013, 12:02:32 AM

Quote from: ea3401 on February 13, 2013, 06:50:40 PM
I used the dark beam to clean the top area from time to time, while I was building a second base on left side.

Congratulations, ea3401. I'd love to see how you got the dark beam to function effectively with so little energy on the right side, and how you got from the pictured status to completion in the next 2 minutes. I must be missing some basic concepts here.

Hard to explain. Have you seen smileys video?
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12005.msg84572#msg84572 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12005.msg84572#msg84572)

Of course the classic video about efficiency is this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_H5t62Uao (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oL_H5t62Uao)

@ea3401,
You missed my point entirely.

If the purpose of your game selection was to showcase your own ability and discourage participation, you succeeded admirably. Posting links to videos of other games might provide some generic insight to the concept, but do nothing to help those trying to figure out how to complete the list of games you created.

Thanks for the reminder, ea3401. I have of course seen Smiley's video, but had forgotten how effective he was in reducing even the heaviest creeper with the "jumping mirror" trick. I had not seen yours, using on-off dark beam techniques. Thanks for both.

Oh, the second one is not from me. It's from Kithros.

Quote from: ctuna on February 18, 2013, 03:37:21 PM
using on-off dark beam techniques

What do you consider more tedious? CW1 bridging, or CW2 DB pulsating?

Just a chime in re. the maps...only reason I didn't finish was that I was out of town after Thursday.  I do hate evading drones and creep at the beginning, but I figure that's just a personal preference.  Congrats to the excellent playing that did happen.  I'm going to study those posted vids...