So, here is what I have so far. My budget is basically 'no more than' $1500.
PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2v0nR) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2v0nR/by_merchant/) / Benchmarks (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2v0nR/benchmarks/)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k) ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusvihero) ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz16gx3m2a1600c10b) ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/seagate-internal-hard-drive-st1000dm003) ($59.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43774kr) ($389.99 @ Amazon)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwdn4800) ($42.92 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm650) ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/microsoft-os-gfc02050) ($81.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1344.82
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
If anybody has recommendations for a case and monitor (in the ATX form factor, or something that will fit the above parts), I'd love to hear them. Also, if anybody spots something wrong with my parts list (things I left out, or something from an unreliable seller, etc.), it'd be great if you could point them out. I'll be building this computer in the next couple weeks. Thanks!
Mich - is this a gaming machine? I'll look at the other stuff later, but usually if people build a gaming machine, I recommend the top-of-the line i5 over the i7 processors. You can't spot the performance difference and it's about $100 cheaper IIRC.
Also, if you are not going to overclock, and are set on an i7, then use the i7-4771 that Helper put in his machine - it's faster in most circumstances.
I never cool anymore with fan-based coolers, I am a closed-loop liquid-cooling convert. The reduction in nose is terrific.
I'd really look long and hard at either adding a SSD as a boot drive or using one of the SSHD (Solid-State Hybrid) drives that have a build-in caching SSD. You can use the money you saved from downgrading the CPU to offset the additional cost, but you will be grateful you did it. :)
I'd not buy a sound card unless I have very good reason to do so, since the on-board sound on most motherboards is pretty good.
More than that, give me some time since I'm quite busy with other things right now. I'd say mostly things look good. As for the case, do you want window, silent, or with eye appeal?
Grauniad and I think alike in this regard. If it's a gaming rig, you'll probably never notice the speed difference of an i7 over an i5. You will notice the speed difference of an SSD drive.
Unless you're one of those audiophiles who can hear the difference between a $400 stereo and a $4000 stereo (I know I can't) then you also won't get much benefit from an extra sound card. The on-board sound with Asus' Maximus series is pretty darn good, imho. (I have an Asus Maximus V GENE board myself, you can see where I rank in the performance thread - and it's mainly the older video card holding me back.)
Get a nice case that has easy access, rails for the drives, plenty of room for fans, etc. A good case will last you through several major upgrades. It's also the part you look at day in and day out.
sound card is a no no :) I also have a Asus Maximus (IV Extreme-Z, Socket-1155), great sound.
I would have gone for the i7 tho.
Can't really see where you can save any money to buy better HW.
Thanks, guys. I'll definitely look into a top-of-the-line i5 then, but I was under the impression that the Maximus VI Hero board didn't have built-in audio. I can correct that then, I guess. I know later in the year (when I start my summer job again) I can afford an SSD, so that upgrade is going to wait until then. Can you recommend a liquid cooler, then, G? I thought that those were very hard to set up... Also, any monitor/case suggestions? Thanks!
You do not need a liquid cooler on this build. Just buy big fans if you want to reduce noise.
You still need to state preferences for a case - eye candy or silence, or ... ?
Agreed. Just get coolers with large fans with low decibel ratings, especially if you don't intend to overclock. Once you hit 120mm cpu coolers, pay attention to the case. They don't always line up and fit just right, or a side mounted fan might not fit if it's directly over the cpu, etc.
From ASUS website - http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/#specifications (http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/MAXIMUS_VI_HERO/#specifications):
ROG SupremeFX 8-Channel High Definition Audio CODEC
- Supports : Jack-detection, Multi-streaming, Front Panel Jack-retasking
Audio Feature :
- SupremeFX Shielding™ Technology
- ELNA premium audio capacitors
- Blu-ray audio layer Content Protection
- Sonic Radar
- DTS Connect
- Optical S/PDIF out port(s) at back panel
Quote from: Grauniad on January 03, 2014, 02:37:42 PM
You still need to state preferences for a case - eye candy or silence, or ... ?
Something that is cheap, and won't break. Also should fit everything, so probably an ATX full-tower.
Awesome, Gray, they must have updated specs since the 2012 review I read.
Double post, I know, sorry. - So, with some advice from G & MM in chat, here is my final parts list (barring any big problems) I went for a 2TB SSHD, and decided on both the monitor and the case. Overall, I think I'm pretty happy with it. I'll probably be ordering parts tomorrow, after having slept and thought about it a bit. Thanks for all your help, fellow people of humanity!
PCPartPicker part list (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vaVp) / Price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vaVp/by_merchant/) / Benchmarks (http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2vaVp/benchmarks/)
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80646i74770k) ($299.99 @ NCIX US)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-cpu-cooler-rr212e20pkr2) ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusvihero) ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cmz16gx3m2a1600c10b) ($139.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 770 4GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-video-card-04gp43774kr) ($380.98 @ Newegg)
Wireless Network Adapter: TP-Link TL-WDN4800 802.11a/b/g/n PCI-Express x1 Wi-Fi Adapter (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwdn4800) ($42.92 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom (White) ATX Full Tower Case (http://www.amazon.com/NZXT-PHANTOM-Tower-White-PHAN-001WT/dp/B003WE9WQO/ref=sr_1_15) ($113.77 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-rm650) ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Monitor: Asus VS247H-P 23.6" Monitor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-monitor-vs247hp) ($137.73)
Other: Windows 8 - Student discount ($69.99)
Other: Seagate Desktop 2 TB Solid State Hybrid Drive SATA 6 GB with NCQ 64 MB Cache 3.5 Inch (ST2000DX001) (http://www.amazon.com/Seagate-Desktop-Solid-Hybrid-ST2000DX001/dp/B00EIQTKAS/ref=sr_1_2) ($134.67)
Total: $1650.00
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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It looks like a pretty good machine. Ultimately I'd make a few different decisions, but we all make slightly different design choices. :)
Good luck with the build.
I think the upgrade to the SSHD is wise. Here you can buy it for $116: http://www.provantage.com/seagate-st2000dx001~7SESS003.htm
I cant match, price-wise, a liquid cooler to the price of your cooler.
Make sure you check memory compatibility with your motherboard and the CPU. Both Intel and Asus should have vendor-qualified lists on their sites.
I think overall you'll be very happy with your system, it's top-notch.
Well, I just bought the whole thing! I changed my case to this: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=2851012&tab=7, because I did not notice that my previous one only had USB 2.0 ports. Overall, I think I did pretty good. I'll post again once it arrives and I assemble it, probably around Jan 10th. Thanks again for all your help, G, MM, and Gray.
Well, the 10th is here, and it is assembled. It is very late here, and the power-on just failed (lights+fans turn on, no feedback from BIOS, beeps, or just in general, motherboard manual says that this means that a power-on self test failed, and to check connections and such), so troubleshooting will be happening tomorrow. Wish me good luck!
Well, my philosophy is if you spent more than $200 on a computer, and it fails to turn on, you'd better make that money worth it and figure out what's wrong.
So I wish you GREAT luck, man. Girl? Whatever, I'm just hoping you can get that working because that's a lot of money. EXCELLENT luck be with you in troubleshooting, because "good" luck isn't good enough.
Quote from: Michionlion on January 10, 2014, 11:04:58 PM
Well, the 10th is here, and it is assembled. It is very late here, and the power-on just failed (lights+fans turn on, no feedback from BIOS, beeps, or just in general, motherboard manual says that this means that a power-on self test failed, and to check connections and such), so troubleshooting will be happening tomorrow. Wish me good luck!
I had that issue when I assembled mine, turns out all I did was miss the connector to the Motherboard from the PSU... ::)
I hope to high heaven you did not test without attaching a cooler to the CPU. That's sure thermal death for the CPU. Modern CPUs have thermal protection, but they still will get to overheat in <1 second. They just can't handle running without a heatsink or cooling of some sort.
After that, what Blaze said. Carefully recheck all wiring connections.
Then carefully recheck components that that are seated properly.
Remove the GPU and all but one stick of memory.
Remove all other components, including hard drives and see if you can run POST.
Your motherboard should have some POST status lights on it. See if you can find then and if they show a status code.
Ok, I got it working. Turns out I forgot the CPU-PSU connection, as it wasn't one of the things in the motherboard manual. Scared me for a second there! Now I'm working on installing Windows 8.1.
EDIT: on the Windows website (http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/Windows-8-Pro-Upgrade-%E2%80%93-Student-Offer/productID.264954100), when a product is labeled 'upgrade' you would need to already have windows installed, correct? Their wording is kinda confusing....
Yes, upgrade means just that. You have to have a previous, qualifying version of Windows. However, I know that in past versions of Windows *at elast in Win 7 and Vista) there was a way to use an upgrade version to do a full install. Don't recall exactly what the method was, though. And of course, you are only to use it as a time saver if you actually have the rights to the upgrade version. It is always a violation of your EULA to use the software under circumstances that you are not permitted.
Well, everything is set up now, mostly. I went with Windows 8, and after using it for about an hour, I wouldn't say it is bad, however it is quite different from 7. Personally, I like it. Thank you all for your help, this was quite a gratifying experience! Now on to them games!
And hopefully a benchmark...:P
indeed.
EDIT: Not sure how to post the image like I did in the benchmark thread, but the score was 3787.7. I have a feeling that the SSHD was used as a normal hard drive (without a caching test, or something), and nothing has been overclocked yet.
Congrats with the new puter :)
Thanks MM. It is quite awesome!