Knuckle Cracker

It has been more than a year since I added an update. Since the list have grown so long, I have not compiled statistics for those map makers with less than 20 maps. For this time, I have left in those mapmakers with 10-20 maps, but their stats are not updated.

Name	New Maps	Mar 23rd 2012	Feb. 4th 2011	July 17th	May, 15th	April, 5th
SPIFFEN	20	433	413	267	134	57
bacura	165	165
PHOENIX79	2	108	106	28
CARBAR	0	94	94
thepenguin	2	93	91	20
Graystripe77	80	80
Link327	33	79	46	12
Fisherck	5	70	65	51	12	12
sqaz	8	62	54	27	24	12
Joao Carlos	0	56	56
jmaps	2	52	50	49	44	30
F0R	1	48	47	42
llljjj	45	45
UpperKEES	1	40	39	26
Germanboy	0	40	40	40	26
roccologic	0	40	40	37	28	22
TheBuilder	0	39	39	39	39	39
IkeaHo	16	38	22
Eudrick	4	37	33
aanze1313	0	36	36	36	24	23
NewUploader1	35	35
MadMag	2	35	33
Twi	0	34	34	32	19	12
KettleFalls	0	33	33	33	33	26
Shodan7	32	32
Michionlion	2	32	30
jem	0	31	31	31	31	31
ThePhantom	0	31	31	31	22
cquante	0	30	30	28	17
IkeaPimp	29	29
themaskedcrusader	0	28	28
Katra	5	26	21	21	16	13
BermanPost	0	26	26	23	11	11
Gorgon Von Schlichenbacher	0	26	26	23	23	18
Ebon_Heart	25	25
element188	25	25
Firetrip	0	25	25
Mango	24	24
crazyone76	0	24	24	22	21	17
GodSmoke	0	23	23	23	23	13
haloguy48	0	23	23	23	23	23
wessew	0	23	23	13	11
Xylnalya	1	22	21	21	21	17
Mrmcdeath	0	22	22	22	22	20
BEric2000	21	21
Tero Patana	2	21	19
16megaman16	0	21	21	21	21	21
thecoolturtle	20	20
Blaze	2	20	18	11	10
longer397(me)	0	20	20	19	17	12
shroomdog27	-	-	19
Dan	-	-	18	18	18
Kamron3	-	-	18	18	18
George	-	-	17	17	17	17
Aurzel	-	-	16	15	15	15
burguertime	-	-	16
Dino_Saur	-	-	16	16	16	16
Richard	-	-	16	15
Usofat25	-	-	16	16	12	10
Alex	-	-	15
Daos	-	-	15	15	15	10
fireskull98	-	-	15	15	13	12
vinny	-	-	15
Xing	-	-	15	15	15	15
Apocalypstic	-	-	14	14	14	14
Brog375	-	-	14
jernst	-	-	14	14	13	13
Joe	-	-	14	14	14	14
Spartan	-	-	14	14	10
Awesomeness..	-	-	12	12	12	12
Colin	-	-	12
djcian	-	-	12	12	12	12
Hazylady	-	-	12	11
JD	-	-	12	12	12	12
map maker 117	-	-	12	12
Tero	-	-	12	12	12	12
Timwi	-	-	12
WileE	-	-	12
Cheesecake	-	-	11	11
Cheesy	-	-	11
Jack L	-	-	11	11
mthw2vc	-	-	11
NERO	-	-	11	11	11	11
OneManArmy	-	-	11
Sniper	-	-	11	11	11	11
Vexsin	-	-	11	11	10
Krell	-	-	10	10	10
mattarama	-	-	10	10	10	10
Neilos	-	-	10	10
Paul-in-Reno	-	-	10

I had around 300 maps lying around that I wanted to upload but my HD got raped.... :(

_k

You said that quite a lot throughout the last weeks and months  ::) We never saw any, coincidence? *snicker* :D

;( I was waiting to put like 1000 up at once ;)

_k

I've got 30 im sitting on trying to make good but i wana finish my Anti-Air seires stuck on the 4th one :P Trying to come up with a good challenge!

Wow... interesting list.  I'd not looked at the stats in a while.  Spiffen has surpassed the number of maps originally included with the game...

Quote from: virgilw on April 05, 2010, 08:03:02 PM
Wow... interesting list.  I'd not looked at the stats in a while.  Spiffen has surpassed the number of maps originally included with the game...

LOL, we should have counted your maps for all the various games and you'd still be the winner, since you made not only the 55 maps with the game, but the traiing sim, the demo and 4 custom maps.  Which brings up another question - when are we going to see a custom map from you again?

I've been too busy working on the next game.  That has taken up...
Lets see... carry the one, uh....  by my calculations approximately 24.1 hours per day.

Quote from: virgilw on April 05, 2010, 10:41:56 PM
I've been too busy working on the next game.  That has taken up...
Lets see... carry the one, uh....  by my calculations approximately 24.1 hours per day.

I just *knew* you were slacking off... ;)

Quote from: virgilw on April 05, 2010, 10:41:56 PM
That has taken up...
Lets see... carry the one, uh....  by my calculations approximately 24.1 hours per day.

Awesome.... Both the list and Virgil

Quote from: virgilw on April 05, 2010, 10:41:56 PM
I've been too busy working on the next game.

So you ARE making a second/extension to creeper world then?

Quote from: Blaze on April 06, 2010, 12:14:07 AMSo you ARE making a second/extension to creeper world then?

I thought everyone knew that VirgilW is working on CW2 ,
but that he dont know when it will come out .

I think there is many threads/post that gives hints about this =D :
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=286.0
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=286.0

Some threads/post i found by serching CW2 ,
so we can see that he's working on something =D

I'm working on a new game yes.... It will be a game that features CW mythology and involves some similar game elements.  I can't given many details yet as it isn't far enough along to talk about yet.  As with any game there will be some things that get removed and some important things yet to be invented at this stage.  What I can say is that even though it involves "Creeper" it will be another original game with game play that hasn't been seen before.  This will be great for the game, but it also means I have to spend weeks staring at it and playing with it to get it from 'interesting' to 'fun'.  With no other similar games to pattern after, it's an impossible thing to predict when it will be done.

Good thing the developers usually are people who enjoy their work.

Quote from: virgilw on April 06, 2010, 08:56:42 AM
I'm working on a new game yes.... It will be a game that features CW mythology and involves some similar game elements.  I can't given many details yet as it isn't far enough along to talk about yet.  As with any game there will be some things that get removed and some important things yet to be invented at this stage.  What I can say is that even though it involves "Creeper" it will be another original game with game play that hasn't been seen before.  This will be great for the game, but it also means I have to spend weeks staring at it and playing with it to get it from 'interesting' to 'fun'.  With no other similar games to pattern after, it's an impossible thing to predict when it will be done.

Yet it will all pay off when you have made a second smash-hit game.  ;)

I believe that Virgil should go for a 'free' version of the game (http://gapgames.net) to where (if it is possible) you could purchase upgrades with real money. Like in Warzone TD Extended (http://gapgames.net/game.php?w=800&h=600&name=Warzone%20TD%20Extended&glink=/web_flash/td/warzoneextended.swf), I bought 4000 coins. I believe the Dev gets 60%, Mochimedia gets 30-35% and the domain hosting the game gets 5-10%. 4000 coins costs $5 and I got $0.50 from the share.

So if Virgil makes a new game, players that like flash games can buy upgrades with mochimedia for X amount of coins per upgrade.
If players buy the game that is not the flash version (http://gapgames.net), they spend lets say $20 for it. They get all the upgrades PLUS other various items and stuff.

Math:

Let's say there are 20 upgrades at 500 coins each.

They will spend $5 per 8 upgrades, so 20 upgrades costs around $12.50.

The only way this would work is if Virgil put a ton of stuff in the full version, but only maybe half the stuff, while keeping gameplay and wanting people to pay. (http://gapgames.net)

Virgil could crank out a bit more per game (http://gapgames.net) this way ;)

_k

Quote from: Kamron3 on April 06, 2010, 04:36:33 PM
I believe that Virgil should go for a 'free' version of the game (http://gapgames.net) to where (if it is possible) you could purchase upgrades with real money. Like in Warzone TD Extended (http://gapgames.net/game.php?w=800&h=600&name=Warzone%20TD%20Extended&glink=/web_flash/td/warzoneextended.swf), I bought 4000 coins. I believe the Dev gets 60%, Mochimedia gets 30-35% and the domain hosting the game gets 5-10%. 4000 coins costs $5 and I got $0.50 from the share.

So if Virgil makes a new game, players that like flash games can buy upgrades with mochimedia for X amount of coins per upgrade.
If players buy the game that is not the flash version (http://gapgames.net), they spend lets say $20 for it. They get all the upgrades PLUS other various items and stuff.

Math:

Let's say there are 20 upgrades at 500 coins each.

They will spend $5 per 8 upgrades, so 20 upgrades costs around $12.50.

The only way this would work is if Virgil put a ton of stuff in the full version, but only maybe half the stuff, while keeping gameplay and wanting people to pay. (http://gapgames.net)

Virgil could crank out a bit more per game (http://gapgames.net) this way ;)

_k

Or keep it at 10$?  :D

SIMPLE IS BETTER! DON'T FIX WHAT AIN'T BROKE! *LIKE MY CAPS LOCK* 10$
:P

>_> I was just saying! :)

_k

You'll have to take into account that such a payment system targets a different audience. There are countless discussions here and there about fees or ongoing costs of software versus fixed prices. Even for the maths, you're not caluclating closely enough to reality.
For a decent extrapolation you'd need rough estimates of both target audience's numbers. Even if you somehow manage to give those two a realistic outlook for a game that doesn't have anything to show off yet and solely exists as code and plans visible to Virgil, you'll still need to compare the income both of you have made. This would require both of you to open up all of your incomes concerning CW (for Virgil) and gapgames (for you).

Quote from: Kamron3
I believe the Dev gets 60%, Mochimedia gets 30-35% and the domain hosting the game gets 5-10%. 4000 coins costs $5 and I got $0.50 from the share.

Now, since you're not exactly sure how much of said income would remain in Virgils posession, (more or less) extensive reasearch ought to be done, both for what's standard and who could make what deal for what game. Keep in mind that the game we're talking about is far from presentable.

I doubt Virgil so far thought of an implementation which would allow such a system to take root in the game at all. (Assuming there's finished code at all - No offense intended, Virgil. I don't want to talk you down, I'm just talking about own experiences where code never gets labeled 'done' until the project's released XD) Yet, if you look at CW and the quite well outcome Virgil mentioned once or twice there's a good chance to build upon the reputation and the game to allow for a better start. On the other hand, taking up a system with controversal view upon by many users bears a far greater chance for failure.

RevShare has to be enabled for the game in order for it to be able to get a share of the revenue if someone buys from your domain.

_k

Quote from: Xylnalya on April 07, 2010, 02:46:25 AM
You'll have to take into account that such a payment system targets a different audience. There are countless discussions here and there about fees or ongoing costs of software versus fixed prices. Even for the maths, you're not caluclating closely enough to reality.
For a decent extrapolation you'd need rough estimates of both target audience's numbers. Even if you somehow manage to give those two a realistic outlook for a game that doesn't have anything to show off yet and solely exists as code and plans visible to Virgil, you'll still need to compare the income both of you have made. This would require both of you to open up all of your incomes concerning CW (for Virgil) and gapgames (for you).

Quote from: Kamron3
I believe the Dev gets 60%, Mochimedia gets 30-35% and the domain hosting the game gets 5-10%. 4000 coins costs $5 and I got $0.50 from the share.

Now, since you're not exactly sure how much of said income would remain in Virgils posession, (more or less) extensive reasearch ought to be done, both for what's standard and who could make what deal for what game. Keep in mind that the game we're talking about is far from presentable.

I doubt Virgil so far thought of an implementation which would allow such a system to take root in the game at all. (Assuming there's finished code at all - No offense intended, Virgil. I don't want to talk you down, I'm just talking about own experiences where code never gets labeled 'done' until the project's released XD) Yet, if you look at CW and the quite well outcome Virgil mentioned once or twice there's a good chance to build upon the reputation and the game to allow for a better start. On the other hand, taking up a system with controversal view upon by many users bears a far greater chance for failure.

Huh? ???

I feel honored to be on this here list.  8)

i say just 10 bucks to buy, no upgrade system.

Seriously, i kinda feel like this game alone could be on the shelves for 20

Quote from: ontheworld on May 09, 2010, 01:56:05 PM
i say just 10 bucks to buy, no upgrade system.

Seriously, i kinda feel like this game alone could be on the shelves for 20

I probably wouldn't have bought the game for $20.

_k

Quote from: Kamron3 on May 09, 2010, 01:56:49 PM

Quote from: ontheworld on May 09, 2010, 01:56:05 PM
i say just 10 bucks to buy, no upgrade system.

Seriously, i kinda feel like this game alone could be on the shelves for 20

I probably wouldn't have bought the game for $20.

_k

me neither, but cmon, look at it, 55 lvls, and 20+ pages of custom maps, this is a game with nearly no time limit

yea but I wouldn't have bought for $20 Now that's I've played it I would have, but what about all those new and old members who won't touch a game that they aren't sure of for $20? Just stick with what works, $10 each.

I'm here.
Hi.

Seriously, what are we talking about? I got lost somewhere...  ???

Quote from: Twi on May 13, 2010, 10:23:19 PM
I'm here.
Hi.

Seriously, what are we talking about? I got lost somewhere...  ???

Same. And I've kept up with it!

I think the list need some changes.

(Virgil has made 65, for if someone want Virgil in the list.)

QuoteI think the list need some changes. (Virgil has made 59 maps, not 55)

K75 said this long time ago :

QuoteLOL, we should have counted your maps for all the various games and you'd still be the winner, since you made not only the 55 maps with the game, but the traiing sim, the demo and 4 custom maps.  Which brings up another question - when are we going to see a custom map from you again?

Dont think anybody cares about the list any more , many players post many maps all the time .  ::)

iIve got 4 right now but i plan to be on the list eventully

Quote from: F0R on May 14, 2010, 06:41:17 PM
iIve got 4 right now but i plan to be on the list eventully

just remember: quality over quality, since 100 crappy levels are worse than 10 good levels

Update:

Name	April, 5th	May, 15th	New maps
SPIFFEN	57	134	77
jmaps	30	44	14
TheBuilder	39	39	0
KettleFalls	26	33	7
jem	31	31	0
roccologic	22	28	6
Germanboy		26	26
aanze1313	23	24	1
sqaz	12	24	12
GodSmoke	13	23	10
Gorgon Von Schlichenbacher	18	23	5
haloguy48	23	23	0
Mrmcdeath	20	22	2
ThePhantom		22	22
16megaman16	21	21	0
crazyone76	17	21	4
Xylnalya	17	21	4
Twi	12	19	7
Dan		18	18
Kamron3		18	18
George	17	17	0
longer397(me)	12	17	5
cquante		17	17
Dino_Saur	16	16	0
Katra	13	16	3
Aurzel	15	15	0
Daos	10	15	5
Xing	15	15	0
Apocalypstic	14	14	0
Joe	14	14	0
fireskull98	12	13	1
jernst	13	13	0
Awesomeness..	12	12	0
djcian	12	12	0
Fisherck	12	12	0
JD	12	12	0
Tero	12	12	0
Usofat25	10	12	2
BermanPost	11	11	0
NERO	11	11	0
Sniper	11	11	0
wessew		11	11
mattarama	10	10	0
Spartan		10	10
Vexsin		10	10
Blaze		10	10
Krell		10	10

i have 7

I'm on the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Quote from: Karsten75 on May 15, 2010, 07:45:21 PM

SPIFFEN	57	134	77
jmaps	30	44	14

I think I can't beat SPIFFEN anymore. :'(
Thanks for updating! :)

how bout updating the list?

You can also use the very useful Map Info Viewer (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=2707.0) by Roccologic for that.

spiffen might be in the lead

but he spams maps that are boring, everyone wants a high-detail map like virgil and me make

Quote from: Cheesecake on June 12, 2010, 05:35:19 PM
spiffen might be in the lead
but he spams maps that are boring, everyone wants a high-detail map like virgil and me make

And you compare your maps to Virgil's , and say that your maps has a high-detail =P
Enought said about that !

If you dont like my maps , just ignore them .
I havent made them to please you .

Quote from: Cheesecake on June 12, 2010, 05:35:19 PM
spiffen might be in the lead

but he spams maps that are boring, everyone wants a high-detail map like virgil and me make

I'm getting a bit (actually more than a bit) tired by you spamming the chat, insulting map reviewers, ordering me to approve maps by PM and writing crap like you just did here. If you don't stop doing these things I'll have to ask Virgil to take appropriate action.

Quote from: UpperKEES on June 12, 2010, 06:17:02 PM

Quote from: Cheesecake on June 12, 2010, 05:35:19 PM
spiffen might be in the lead

but he spams maps that are boring, everyone wants a high-detail map like virgil and me make

I'm getting a bit (actually more than a bit) tired by you spamming the chat, insulting map reviewers, ordering me to approve maps by PM and writing crap like you just did here. If you don't stop doing these things I'll have to ask Virgil to take appropriate action.

I'm not spamming the chat. (Unless nobody is there, and I usually delete the messages) I am not ordering you to approve maps, I asked you to, and I'm just giving my honest opinion. Sure, I lost it after Karsten screwed up the totems and left me wondering what he was trying to say for a while, then practically exploded after my map was denied 3 times, but I haven't been sleeping well (sometimes, not at all) for the past 2 weeks, and I'm not thinking straight as it is. I apologize to Karsten for my innapropriate behavior.)

I think this is not the appropriate place to debate, so I'll keep it short. I know what I've seen and read; I keep all PMs and don't forget there's a log for the chat. Regarding the totems: who screwed up? (No need to answer that one.)

Now let's go back on topic....

Cheesecake right now our community has no spammers and it is a friendly community please be nice to everyone even if you get angry at them for one reason or another

Quote from: Cheesecake on June 12, 2010, 05:35:19 PM
spiffen might be in the lead

but he spams maps that are boring, everyone wants a high-detail map like virgil and me make

your highest downloaded map:

Cesux
By: Cheesecake
Skill: Medium
Downloads: 255
Best Time: 10 min 43 sec
Avg Time: 28 min 40 sec
Scores: 26
Comments: 2


SPIFFEN's:
The Stripes
By: SPIFFEN
Skill: Hard
Downloads: 350
Best Time: 11 min 32 sec
Avg Time: 18 min 34 sec
Scores: 25
Comments: 7

my highest:

Brutonia
By: ontheworld
Skill: Expert Only
Downloads: 223
Best Time: 13 min 2 sec
Avg Time: 29 min 31 sec
Scores: 54
Comments: 1

i come lowest but still...SPIFFEN has more so apparently people like his more

Huh. Anyways, now that I've gotten on the Ed's picks as well, I think I'm on my way to having something map-wise.
So far, my highest rated map is 'Tweeper Episode 1: D-Fence!' I guess people are having fun challenging themselves.

Updated the first post in this thread with new results (or I will in a few seconds...)

Interesting to note that there are now 596 author names in the list of map authors.  

Edit: And yes, if you submit maps under different handles, I don't add up your maps.

Just updated the top post with a new list.  :)

cool

I'm in there!  (well, pretty much anybody who makes maps that are good and not pwned immedaetly are in there...)

Nice, but how about rating?

And I think it is messy

New Maps   Feb. 4th 2011   July 17th   May, 15th   April, 5th

Quote from: MadMag on February 04, 2011, 07:30:06 PM

And I think it is messy

New Maps   Feb. 4th 2011   July 17th   May, 15th   April, 5th

Feel free to put up your own, improved version - I'm handicapped by the limitations of BBcode.

As for more features, when I get access to the CW2 data bases I'll write some SQL to present data in different formats.

Updated top post. :)

I'm Surpised im still high up there :D