Custom Map #139: Experiment 14. By: Sorrontis

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on: October 09, 2016, 01:37:54 am
This topic is for discussion of map #139: Experiment 14


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Experiment 14 was sent to Sector 14a for in combat testing. The sector was scanned, showing only the lightest of particle resistance. Soon after the test started, contact with the testing Platform & 14 was lost. HQ and a quick response fleet was sent to investigate. Good luck.



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Reply #1 on: October 09, 2016, 05:45:06 am
help please, how do you beat those cannons? i cant beat them they defeated me even in one honk

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Reply #2 on: October 09, 2016, 09:52:27 am
I just want to see the video of the 8min win.

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Reply #3 on: October 09, 2016, 10:40:37 am
I just want to see the video of the 8min win.

I'll wait to see what times more experienced players reach before commenting on a 8.5min time.

help please, how do you beat those cannons? i cant beat them they defeated me even in one honk

Please be more specific? There's a whole bunch of cannons in this map :D

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Reply #4 on: October 09, 2016, 11:03:04 am
Also, I would love to hear from people that rated the map below 6.

Why were you unhappy with it?

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Reply #5 on: October 09, 2016, 11:41:53 am
Overall once I got past the rage quit stage due to losing my HQ 3 times for no discernible reason it was not a bad map, I do find that I truly dislike plasma especially when it is dropped by particles.
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The other problem is the lack of tankers on your maps. That means I have to spend more time than I would like shuttleing lathes around and with lots of particles that means I am really building lathes constantly

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Reply #6 on: October 09, 2016, 11:47:50 am
Overall once I got past the rage quit stage due to losing my HQ 3 times for no discernible reason it was not a bad map, I do find that I truly dislike plasma especially when it is dropped by particles.
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The other problem is the lack of tankers on your maps. That means I have to spend more time than I would like shuttleing lathes around and with lots of particles that means I am really building lathes constantly

Experiment 14 has a port. If you can control your energy properly, you can use that. Also, there's a free amp gem at the beginning (it's allocated as Mine Cannon) reallocate to energy. ;)

But thanks for the critique!

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Reply #7 on: October 09, 2016, 11:51:43 am
Because of the lack of energy, I didn't use EXP 14 or the Star base until the end game, I actually destroyed them when I probably should have just clicked don't build but even with don't build on I have seen ships get supplied so figured it was the easier way to do it.

 I did find the amp gem and thought that was nice touch having it hidden like that.

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Reply #8 on: October 09, 2016, 01:21:33 pm
It's not a bad map, but as someone who prefer speedy push/expand, the map sorta punishes that playstyle.
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Even with the energy tech, the big ships are just energy blackhole. I literally toggle off all the weapons except fighters on Exp 14, and just used it as a shielded meatshield




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Reply #9 on: October 09, 2016, 01:23:40 pm
It's not a bad map, but as someone who prefer speedy push/expand, the map sorta punishes that playstyle.
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Even with the energy tech, the big ships are just energy blackhole. I literally toggle off all the weapons except fighters on Exp 14, and just used it as a shielded meatshield

Yes, that is a valid point. For early out expanders, this map is quite mean. Btw, it is possible to stop the third explosion, first & second not so much.

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Reply #10 on: October 09, 2016, 05:04:38 pm
The 8.5 min time is defo possible but very impressive. I wasted loads of time at 13 mins as I did not notice the inhibitor unit (I can't remember what it is called in PF!) and was trying to take islands I could have ignored.

The start is very critical and does suit a speed player but you have to get it right, I took 6 or 7 attempts before I was happy.

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Really great map again and worthy of a much higher score than it will get.



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Reply #11 on: October 09, 2016, 06:37:46 pm
I did find the default ships to be somewhat lacking and not suited well to the fast particles bouncing everywhere. The auto cannons have too much shot power making tanking their shots almost impossible. Random high power shots 2-shot the HQ. No idea why it's necessary for a dead HQ to be an instant fail here.
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Reply #12 on: October 09, 2016, 06:52:30 pm
I did find the default ships to be somewhat lacking and not suited well the the fast particles bouncing everywhere. The auto cannons have too much shot power making tanking their shots almost impossible. Random high power shots 2-shot the HQ. No idea why it's necessary for a dead HQ to be an instant fail here.


Ahh now I know what killed my HQ. Never thought of that, But the last time I played I did hide it behind a couple of of other ships. Of course this lowered my available fleet and probably made the map harder then it should have been

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Reply #13 on: October 09, 2016, 07:13:20 pm
Thank you all for your input.  Seriously, I appreciate it.

I did find the default ships to be somewhat lacking and not suited well the the fast particles bouncing everywhere. The auto cannons have too much shot power making tanking their shots almost impossible. Random high power shots 2-shot the HQ. No idea why it's necessary for a dead HQ to be an instant fail here.

I am a big fan of "possible loss" maps. The only way that is possible is with either HQ loss or a special PRPL system. Now, the defense cannons were powerful, meaning you had to sacrifice many ships to move forwards.

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Ahh now I know what killed my HQ. Never thought of that, But the last time I played I did hide it behind a couple of of other ships. Of course this lowered my available fleet and probably made the map harder then it should have been

Yes, the point was that the HQ needed to be protected at the beginning, but it is possible to leave it in safety once you have completely secured the lower left corner. :D

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Reply #14 on: October 09, 2016, 07:28:27 pm
Thank you all for your input.  Seriously, I appreciate it.

I did find the default ships to be somewhat lacking and not suited well the the fast particles bouncing everywhere. The auto cannons have too much shot power making tanking their shots almost impossible. Random high power shots 2-shot the HQ. No idea why it's necessary for a dead HQ to be an instant fail here.

I am a big fan of "possible loss" maps. The only way that is possible is with either HQ loss or a special PRPL system. Now, the defense cannons were powerful, meaning you had to sacrifice many ships to move forwards.

(click to show/hide)

Ahh now I know what killed my HQ. Never thought of that, But the last time I played I did hide it behind a couple of of other ships. Of course this lowered my available fleet and probably made the map harder then it should have been

Yes, the point was that the HQ needed to be protected at the beginning, but it is possible to leave it in safety once you have completely secured the lower left corner. :D

It would have been nice if there was some way to know that was the culprit. I kept looking for particles and there were none when I died haha

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