Custom Map #3630: map 98 LARVA. By: yum234

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[yum-forum]

So much hate! 5 minutes after I uploaded this map and immediately somebody rate "1". Without playing! It is disrespectful to the work of those who are trying to create games and do World of CW3 more interesting!
What I am creating wrong? In CW2 it was more friendly atmosphere. I created more than 20% of maps in CW2 and hope made CW2 World more interesting and better! 

http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12121.0

In CW3 very unfair rating system if 4-5 haters WITHOUT PLAYING AND SUBMITTING SCORE can do so and administration of CW3 do nothing to prevent such activity! Just strongly push out me from CW3!
DON'T YOU CARE?

P.S. It was my last map in CW3.
SAYONARA MINASAMA! (Goodbye in Japanese, politely)

[ThomBat]

Sadly the internet is one great big connected village, and every village has its idiot, and the idiot thinks shouting anonymous abuse at you is worthwhile. Perhaps one of your maps trapped him and now he's forever angry?

Anyway I liked this map so far - have to resume tomorrow as have "invested" too much time tonight (just triggered the "tripwire" surrounding the island by hitting it hard enough to provoke a creeper flood, silly me :-( ), and even though I sometimes have to give up on them I've never had anything but respect for your designs. So I hope it proves not really to be "sayonara" but more "auf wiedersehen" (i.e. goodbye - until we see you again)

[GoodMorning]

While it's not polite to call people idiots, anonymous down-rating is not helpful to anyone.
I suspect a script has been used, based on the regular and speedy low ratings you complain of.

Keep in mind that if they had any real cause for complaint, they could put something up here.

Does this happen to all maps (not just yours), and is it one person, do we know?

Your maps consistently rate well over time. I can't keep up with you, but every map I have played has been well-crafted and enjoyable.

I do think that a review of the rating system might be good, but recall that it takes time to play a map. Give it a week, and I would predict that the 9/10s will outnumber anything else.

Finally, recall that not everyone submits a score, and that maps winnable only by "cheats", or CRPLed "magic strings" could be rated 10 by the mapmaker, and stay there, due to being impossible by legitimate means, so no scores are submitted, and so no ratings under your proposed system.

I propose a system which shows no ratings for a week after upload, to give time for real people to play a map. Then, a boxplot (ignoring the outliers) is shown, giving an idea of the rating distribution. This would more accurately reflect the consensus, and might put an end to the kind of issue that you refer to.

(Failing that, pad the rating history to 20 opinions with neutral ones, thus stopping anyone from having an undue effect. As real ratings come in, the dummy values will be discarded, until the ratings finally reflect at least a sample of the community.)

As has been said before, ignore the ratings, look at the feedback on the forum.

[Builder17]

1. Haters maybe don't use forum.  :-\

2. I am pretty sure all mapmakers here in CW3 have at least 1 hater.  8)

3. I am not one rating your maps badly , but I would like your maps more with less void and smaller size IMO.  :)

[GoodMorning]

If the [people responsible] used the forum, or had anything worth saying, then it would be said.

The other thing is that nobody is under any obligation to play any map. So, if they don't like yours, they can play others. While they do that, the rest of us continue to enjoy your maps, and hope for more.

[stdout]

Another great map! I was able to snag the Thor tech at the opening which was a great feeling. I hope you continue to make maps because you have a lot of fans!

[kalek]

So much hate! 5 minutes after I uploaded this map and immediately somebody rate "1". Without playing! It is disrespectful to the work of those who are trying to create games and do World of CW3 more interesting!
What I am creating wrong? In CW2 it was more friendly atmosphere. I created more than 20% of maps in CW2 and hope made CW2 World more interesting and better! 

http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12121.0

In CW3 very unfair rating system if 4-5 haters WITHOUT PLAYING AND SUBMITTING SCORE can do so and administration of CW3 do nothing to prevent such activity! Just strongly push out me from CW3!
DON'T YOU CARE?

P.S. It was my last map in CW3.
SAYONARA MINASAMA! (Goodbye in Japanese, politely)

Why do you care of this YUM ? We unfortunately face this attitude everywhere in world... even in games ! Maybe these rates are from very young children who play with their parents computer and believe like this  taking revenge from their school teacher...

If you leave, THEY WIN ! How much are they comparing to all the cool players around ?
hope to see you soon.

[GoodMorning]

Another great map! I was able to snag the Thor tech at the opening which was a great feeling. I hope you continue to make maps because you have a lot of fans!

Indeed, to the point that the forum has at least one dedicated tribute thread.

[walr688]

Stop crying and make us another map. We love you.

[darkcloud]

Aahhh, rage quit :)   Yum, all of your maps are yummy yum, this one is 7.95, which is really high from 38 scores.

P.s. i took thor tech as last. Had head scarstching for 2 minutes why i haven't won the game..

p.p.s. is this rage quit real? if so, we need to fix this and get him back, we love you!!!!!!!!!!

[chwooly]

Yum,Out of 111 maps that you have made, I have not played 5, there are 3 I have not finished and might go back, therefore I think it is safe to say that I have good knowledge of your map quality. So overall you have had a few 10's, and you have had a few 1's that is just the way it works. Not everything we do is perfect and meets everyone's standards.


If you are doing this just for likes then you are going to be very unhappy, just make them because you enjoy them, Ignore the haters and revel in the likes....

By the way thanks for making these maps,

[mzimmer74]

Another great map! I was able to snag the Thor tech at the opening which was a great feeling. I hope you continue to make maps because you have a lot of fans!

How did you pull that off?  I tried multiple methods and while I got really close I just couldn't quite get it.

I also agree with the sentiments...keep making maps!

[chwooly]

One other thought Yum, I would bet that those 1's you get are from people that have tried the map and failed many times. Even with hints and spoilers some maps are not suited for some play styles. Don't be so sensitive....Most of your maps are very good, you can't have 100% percent likes. Just not possible....

[yum-forum]

One other thought Yum, I would bet that those 1's you get are from people that have tried the map and failed many times. Even with hints and spoilers some maps are not suited for some play styles. Don't be so sensitive....Most of your maps are very good, you can't have 100% percent likes. Just not possible....

I understand this very well. Impossible to create only very nice maps...
But haters rate "1" immediately after uploading and not care about difficulty of game!
And thanks to recent unfair rating system they do not have even to try playing.

I noticed one more bad things in rating system:

Haters now became also hackers. They can rate not only "1" but even "0" (not "no rating" - real rate "0")! It possible perhaps only if they knows source code of game! And they do so when rating of game became high!

For example history of rating for my map #77:

(resulting rating) (number of scores)  (last rate mathematically calculated)

..........................................
8.64      123       9
8.65      124      10
8.66      125      10
8.60      126        1   usual hater
8.61      127        9
8.62      128       10
8,61      129         8
8.61      130         8
8.61      131         9
8.61      132         9
8.55      133        0  unusual hater/hacker
8.54      134         7
8.56      135        10+2 (10 and somebody changed previous rating)
8.58      137         9, 10
8.57      138         8
8.59      140        10, 10
8.60      141        10
8.61      142        10
8.55      143          0   unusual hater/hacker
8.56      144         10

It means that rating system not controllable by administration and possible manipulate....

    Very very unfair!

P.S. Very easy to prevent such activity: just do not permitte to rate map without finishing it!