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Creeper World 2 => Custom Map Discussion => Topic started by: archangel8 on February 03, 2012, 05:31:45 pm

Title: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: archangel8 on February 03, 2012, 05:31:45 pm
Hey everyone,

This is my first threat in here so my name is Tim for those out there that don't know me.

Also for those out there that love details then the document below is something you will want to have.

3 months ago I finally got my hands on the second addition of Creeper World and I was totally blown away by how much more advanced the game had become. Virgil, the game's creator, really went all out on this game. During the month of November I started looking at creating my own maps. Looking at the CW 2 Editor I realized there was a ton more features. It was at that moment I realized I was going to need help on understanding many of the new features. Well, this time around Virgil didn't include any help file for the editor so I hit this forum and found a thread done by Ebon Heart called, "Making CW 2 Maps for Dummies". This is a very awesome thread that helps give a person a good look at many of the features found within the CW 2 Editor.

But I am someone that loves details. I am a person that will take something apart right down to the very last screw just to see how it works. So as I read Ebon's thread I noticed that some of the features of the editor were not covered. So I started doing up a manual for myself that would cover every single detail right down the those little features that some may not even think would be relevant. I did use inspiration from Ebon's thread to help get me started. Near the end of January I finally came close to finishing my personal manual. With everything that I covered I wanted to make sure that what I explained to myself was correct in what that feature actually did. So I got in contact with Virgil and asked if he would look over my work. Well, he said he would be honored. So I emailed a copy of my work to Virgil and after he looked it over he said he was actually very impressed by the detail of my work. Of course I did make a few mistakes on explaining some things. But with guidance from Virgil I made the changes needed to make my manual complete and correct.

I also asked Virgil what his thoughts would be about me sharing my manual with every other Creeper world fan out there. Believe it or not I never once had any intentions to ever share this manual with no one other then me. He felt I should indeed look at sharing my work with all the other fans. So before I share my work with the world I just would like to give some special thanks to Virgil, Ebon Heart, and J.

Ebon gave me something to start with while J, wrote an awesome thread called, "Advanced field/gravity guide". That thread helped explain how fields are created. I liked J's thread so much I included a link to the thread in my manual. It's well worth looking at.

So below is a zip file that contains a PDF file of the manual. I am supplying the manual this way so that fans don't have to be online in order to view this manual. So enjoy and lets all have fun creating awesome maps that we all can play for years to come. Thanks everyone and God bless. :)

PS: feel free to leave any comments and or suggestions. Both good and bad are welcome. I am prepared for the worst but hoping for the best. ;D Haha!
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: Ebon Heart on February 03, 2012, 05:44:00 pm
Blew my guide right out of the water... :P
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: Fisherck on February 03, 2012, 08:10:13 pm
I am very impressed. You did a great job with this! This can help a lot of people. 8)
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: Ebon Heart on February 20, 2012, 05:27:26 pm
Does a mod want to sticky this? I think this could be very helpful... but it's going to die here soon, and be of no use to anyone.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: Michionlion on February 20, 2012, 09:20:17 pm
Does a mod want to sticky this? I think this could be very helpful... but it's going to die here soon, and be of no use to anyone.

I agree, this has definitely helped me, and will help many people.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: lich98 on February 20, 2012, 09:28:14 pm
you do say that the gateways can destroy solid terrain but you don't describe how to do that, at least with my short lookover. Just saying
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: archangel8 on March 16, 2012, 11:31:59 pm
you do say that the gateways can destroy solid terrain but you don't describe how to do that, at least with my short lookover. Just saying
Your right. I did miss that. Sorry!

To do it here is what you do.

Step 1: place a "Enemy Dig Site" over "Normal Terrain" or "Decayable Terrain".

Step 2: Place solid terrain over the "Enemy Dig Site".

Your Solid Terrain will now have a blue X in it and now can be destroyed by a Gateway.

Hope that helps. :)

Oh and sorry it took me so long to reply. I was really badly sick and laid up in the hospital for over a month. I just started getting better and got back home just last week.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: CobraKill on March 16, 2012, 11:38:20 pm
I hope your okay now!

By the way, Lich knows how to do that. I think he was pointing it out for you to put the guide. :)
Title: The manual has been updated.
Post by: archangel8 on March 16, 2012, 11:56:46 pm
I hope your okay now!

By the way, Lich knows how to do that. I think he was pointing it out for you to put the guide. :)
It's done I did just that so the manual has been changed to include the new instructions. Just re-download the new manual. Enjoy everyone. :)
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: archangel8 on March 17, 2012, 12:11:23 am
I hope your okay now!
I am better now then how I was just two weeks ago. I got a really bad infection that just about killed me. I was really sick. I was on heavy anti-biotic for a good two weeks and then my body had to do the rest for the next two weeks. In total I was in the hospital for just about 4 weeks. Thanks to God above I pulled through. If I hadn't I wouldn't be typing this. Haha!

Sadly I wasn't the only person that got this bad infection. There were quite a few people in the hospital that had the same symptoms as me. I know there were some seniors that caught the infection and from what I have been told one person may have passed away from this. Anyways, I am just blessed to still be alive. :)
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: CobraKill on March 17, 2012, 12:16:41 am
I hope your okay now!
I am better now then how I was just two weeks ago. I got a really bad infection that just about killed me. I was really sick. I was on heavy anti-biotic for a good two weeks and then my body had to do the rest for the next two weeks. In total I was in the hospital for just about 4 weeks. Thanks to God above I pulled through. If I hadn't I wouldn't be typing this. Haha!

Sadly I wasn't the only person that got this bad infection. There were quite a few people in the hospital that had the same symptoms as me. I know there were some seniors that caught the infection and from what I have been told one person may have passed away from this. Anyways, I am just blessed to still be alive. :)

I'm glad your here. Was it a staph infection? (The only reason I ask I'd I'm doing a Sceince project on a super staph bug)

To keep on topic: I haven't said it, but this is an amazing guide. No offense to Ebon.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: Ebon Heart on March 17, 2012, 08:41:18 am
I hope your okay now!
I am better now then how I was just two weeks ago. I got a really bad infection that just about killed me. I was really sick. I was on heavy anti-biotic for a good two weeks and then my body had to do the rest for the next two weeks. In total I was in the hospital for just about 4 weeks. Thanks to God above I pulled through. If I hadn't I wouldn't be typing this. Haha!

Sadly I wasn't the only person that got this bad infection. There were quite a few people in the hospital that had the same symptoms as me. I know there were some seniors that caught the infection and from what I have been told one person may have passed away from this. Anyways, I am just blessed to still be alive. :)

I'm glad your here. Was it a staph infection? (The only reason I ask I'd I'm doing a Sceince project on a super staph bug)

To keep on topic: I haven't said it, but this is an amazing guide. No offense to Ebon.
I really wouldn't have even seen that as a possible offense to me if you hadn't said, "no offense to Ebon."
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: lich98 on March 17, 2012, 08:43:28 am
I hope your okay now!

By the way, Lich knows how to do that. I think he was pointing it out for you to put the guide. :)
yep just pointing it out!
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: CobraKill on March 17, 2012, 09:05:43 am
To keep on topic: I haven't said it, but this is an amazing guide. No offense to Ebon.
I really wouldn't have even seen that as a possible offense to me if you hadn't said, "no offense to Ebon."

 :P

It's better then yours.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: archangel8 on March 25, 2012, 10:45:04 pm
I'm glad your here. Was it a staph infection? (The only reason I ask I'd I'm doing a Sceince project on a super staph bug)

To keep on topic: I haven't said it, but this is an amazing guide. No offense to Ebon.
I am not sure what hit this area. It started out like a simple sinus cold but it got worse to where I was blowing out pure yellow stuff and then the darn thing went to my lungs. On top of that I felt like I had been hit by a truck. I ached everywhere. I am just glad I got better.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: albrittbrat on April 01, 2012, 05:51:36 pm
I would like to think that in the process of making as many maps as I have that I have learned a thing or two. I am currently trying to make a map called Cubic Deception which involves the placing of multiple units on top of each other. I have played a few maps that had two things on top of each other, but I quickly realized that there does not seem to be a limit to the number of units you can put on top of each other. If there is a limit, please let me know, but I got up to 13 in this map with no issues. The problem that I am currently running into is that I cannot get all of my gateways to consistently create a constant stream of drones. When I have built maps before, I set each gateway to create only one schedule with a Rpt value of 0 and it has always put out a constant stream of drones at the specified interval indefinitely.
Quoting your guide (Chapter 3, pages 8-10)
"Here you can set how many times the game will loop through a wave before moving on to the next wave if there is more then one wave set in the schedule list. The default is set to 0. If there is more then one wave present and all have a setting of 0 then each wave will be done only once in session. This value can be increased or decreased by clicking on the number and then adding in a new number in the highlighted text box."
I have tried 0, and I have tried very large numbers like 10,000, but regardless of what I put, I cannot get any kind of consistency with this map. Is there some kind of limit on the number of Gateways that can properly function on the same map? This map has 36 of them, each with a different drone schedule.
Does anyone have any ideas?
PS- I would love to add some of my knowledge about unit stacking to this guide if you are interested! Also, not trying to jack your post here, I was just doing research to try and find info about this issue, and stumbled across this. Hope you don't mind!
Thanks,
albrittbrat
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: bram on April 13, 2012, 06:41:15 am
Absolutely love you guide. I also love Ebon's, witch was great to get started and make maps en with yours to go more indept, ideal combination. Thank you for your guide.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: TrickyDragon on April 19, 2012, 04:50:47 pm
i wonder how much of this will be put into the new editor coming out?   
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: 4xC on October 24, 2012, 03:16:48 pm
Just tried to read the guide myself. Result: complications with opening it. Is it not compatible with Microsoft word 2010? What now?
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: J on October 24, 2012, 04:45:56 pm
It is a word 2003 document, so you should be able to open it with word 2010 (I have word 2010 and I can open it perfectly fine). Didn't you accidently try to open the .rar file with word?

Now I see ::), I completely forgot to say thanks to archangel8 for creating this guide and linking my guide in it ;D

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Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: 4xC on October 24, 2012, 07:08:06 pm
It is a word 2003 document, so you should be able to open it with word 2010 (I have word 2010 and I can open it perfectly fine). Didn't you accidently try to open the .rar file with word?

Accidentaly?! It gave me no other option when I clicked on the link on the first post. And it did say rar. At first it said to either find or save as a kind of file that was not showing up like it should have. Having 2010 myself, I would like to know what to do now.
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: J on October 25, 2012, 02:30:53 am
Do you have winrar? If not, here is it in zip format.

(edit: it is attached in the OP)
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: 4xC on October 25, 2012, 05:53:36 pm
Worked like a charm. Much obliged.
Title: Updated: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual Second Edition
Post by: archangel8 on March 25, 2013, 05:21:00 pm
Hey Everyone,

Long time no talk. I have some awesome news. My manual for the editor has been majorly updated thanks in part to a fellow member in here doing some visual work on the manual.

Before I go any further I need to gave a major thanks to fm4fan (A.K.A.: Peter) for adding in several screen shots into my manual for all of you to use. The screen shots add a visual reference to the many features used in the editor. So now you need not have to wander what feature I am talking about in the manual. So I hope you all enjoy the new updated version of the manual and I also included both a .rar file and a .zip file for anyone out there that may not have a RAR file extractor program. Also in both files I included both a Word document and a PDF file. Peter updated the manual in both formats for us all. so again, enjoy the new updated versions and feel free to leave any comments.

Oh and you'll find the new versions in my first thread in here. they have been added as new attachments.

Tim,
archangel8
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: JF-T on August 03, 2013, 07:24:11 pm
Thank you so much for making this guide archangel8, jsut starting out in map making once again, I found myself questionning many things about the Editor, but now i have a pretty good udnerstanding of how it works.
You're a life saver man, bless you! :D
Title: Re: Creeper World 2 Editor - Manual
Post by: Triple Kings on March 04, 2015, 05:55:10 pm
can you help me? i cant submit any maps cuz i dont know how.