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Title: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview, rules & rankings
Post by: UpperKEES on September 06, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
After playing the History - Assassinations tournament (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4585.0) (an idea by RandyTravis), I thought it would be nice to play such a tournament each week with a different theme. It has to be possible to link each theme to at least 5 events on specific dates in history.

Rules:
Every competitor will have until Sunday evening at midnight (forum time*) to set the best scores/times for these 5 maps, all linked together by their common theme, so there's no need to subscribe; just start playing! The winner (best total score) gets to pick a new theme from the list of proposed themes by the community in this topic and publish the dates to be played before Monday evening at midnight (forum time). This will ensure the winner doesn't have a major advantage and also makes sure that every player has 6 days to participate. Last weeks winner is also responsible for determining next weeks winner by calculating/checking the total scores. Each tournament will have its own topic where players can post scores and discuss their progress. See the posting tips & guidelines for the winner (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4621.msg28467#msg28467) of a tournament.

Please note:
- It is not allowed for the same player to submit scores with different names. If done so, both names will be disqualified.
- When two players have the same total score, the best total time wins.
- When two players have the same total score and the same total time, the amount of individual #1 spots counts, followed by the amount of #2 spots, etc.
- When the tournament has been won by the same player as last week the runner up (#2) will pick the next theme to ensure themes & maps will be picked by different people.
- When this runner up already picked last weeks theme (same top 2 twice), the number three will pick the theme + maps
- When this number three already picked last weeks theme (same top 3 three times), the winner will pick the theme + maps again

When you like this idea just post useful themes in this topic so the winner of the history tournament can pick the next theme. Dates/maps related to a certain theme shouldn't have been played before by anybody participating. Themes that not have been chosen will remain candidates for future weeks. I will keep this initial post up-to-date with a list of nominated themes and winners of kept tournaments.

Proposed themes so far:


Tournament table










#

Theme

Closing date
Winning
score
Winning
time

1st place

2nd place

3rd place








1.
Assassinations (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4585.0)
September 12, 2010
48198 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4585.msg24207#msg24207)
11:16
UpperKEESSqazFisherck
2.
Deadliest volcanic eruptions (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4715.0)
September 19, 2010
46742 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4715.msg25076#msg25076)
22:06
UpperKEESAlwegoFisherck
3.
Computer (game) inventions (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4801.0)
September 26, 2010
45184 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4801.msg25769#msg25769)
32:33
UpperKEESAlwegoFisherck
4.
Richest people (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4882)
October 3, 2010
47395 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4882.msg26167#msg26167)
16:35
UpperKEESFisherckAlwego
5.
Math/physics/astronomy scientists (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4963)
October 10, 2010
46761 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4963.msg26721#msg26721)
20:59
UpperKEESctunaKatra
6.
Notable Fighter Aces of the World (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5037)
October 17, 2010
48389 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5037.msg26959#msg26959)
09:59
UpperKEESctunaFisherck
7.
World Records for Running Events (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5071)
October 24, 2010
47570 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5071.msg27511#msg27511)
15:29
SicclesUpperKEESctuna
8.
Really tall buildings (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5155)
October 31, 2010
47824 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5155.msg27797#msg27797)
13:44
UpperKEEShiKatra
9.
Einstein's Miracle Year (1905) (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5195.msg27796#msg27796)
November 7, 2010
47422 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5195.msg28229#msg28229)
16:27
ctunaColinKatra
10.
Original Star Trek Crew (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5243.0)
November 14, 2010
48223 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5243.msg28491#msg28491)
11:08
Kapoioshictuna
11.
Radiohead (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5283.0)
November 21, 2010
47836 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5283.msg28862#msg28862)
13:43
KapoioshiColin
12.
Nuclear Explosions (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5327.0)
November 28, 2010
47200 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5327.msg29331#msg29331)
18:04
hiColinKapoios
13.
Halley's Comet (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5367.msg29249#msg29249)
December 5, 2010
46523 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5367.msg29621#msg29621)
22:33
Colinhictuna
14.
Concorde (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5426.0)
December 12, 2010
46848 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5426.msg29949#msg29949)
20:17
UpperKEEShictuna
15.
Great Conquerors (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5462.msg29969#msg29969)
December 19, 2010
47083 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5462.msg30309#msg30309)
18:36
hictunaKatra
16.
Wikipedia (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5507.msg30343#msg30343)
December 26, 2010
.....
.. : ..
...............
17.
.....
January 2, 2011
.....
.. : ..
...............
18.
.....
January 9, 2011
.....
.. : ..
...............
19.
.....
January 16, 2011
.....
.. : ..
...............
20.
.....
January 23, 2011
.....
.. : ..
...............










Medal table (ranked by total amount of points: gold = 4, silver = 2, bronze = 1)









Rank

Player
Gold
medals
Silver
medals
Bronze
medals
Total
medals
Number of
participations
Total
points








1.UpperKEES (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=512)
8
1
0
9
10
34
2.hi (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=542)
2
5
0
7
7
18
3.ctuna (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=759)
1
3
4
8
11
14
4.Kapoios (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2408)
2
0
1
3
3
9
Colin (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=2180)
1
2
1
4
7
9
6.Fisherck (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=1124)
0
1
4
5
7
6
7.Alwego (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=228)
0
2
1
3
5
5
8.Siccles (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=359)
1
0
0
1
3
4
Katra (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=531)
0
0
4
4
15
4
10.Sqaz (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=655)
0
1
0
1
3
2








Total:
15
15
15
45
105









* Forum time (GMT/UTC minus 5 hours) is used to record your scores. When you hover your mouse pointer over a score in the leaderboard for a certain map you'll see the time this score has been submitted. Midnight sharp (0:00:00) is the deadline every Sunday evening, no exceptions!
Title: Re: Weekly themed 5-map tournament
Post by: Fisherck on September 06, 2010, 05:06:30 PM
Great! What is the first theme?
Title: Re: Weekly themed 5-map tournament
Post by: UpperKEES on September 06, 2010, 05:10:41 PM
You name it! (And pick it if you win the Assassinions tournament, which is still open until RandyTravis decides it's done; I can't determine that for him.)
Title: Re: Weekly themed 5-map tournament
Post by: Katra on September 06, 2010, 09:36:54 PM
I'm interested. I propose major natural disasters as a possible theme.
Title: Re: Weekly themed 5-map tournament
Post by: Karsten75 on September 06, 2010, 10:52:37 PM
We could also simply have a parallel competition for the player with  5 fastest maps in any week... or the Monday-Friday maps for any and every week.   
Title: Re: Weekly themed 5-map tournament
Post by: UpperKEES on September 06, 2010, 11:10:37 PM
Quote from: Karsten75 on September 06, 2010, 10:52:37 PM
We could also simply have a parallel competition for the player with  5 fastest maps in any week... or the Monday-Friday maps for any and every week.   

Sure, but I like the concept of a theme competition.

Quote from: Katra on September 06, 2010, 09:36:54 PM
I'm interested. I propose major natural disasters as a possible theme.

Added.
Title: Re: Weekly themed 5-map tournament
Post by: Fisherck on September 07, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
Lets see...
. Dates major landmarks finished, like a nations capitol, the statue of liberty, and the eiffel tower.
. Terrorist attacks. 9/11 is not the only one.
. Major inventions, like the light bulb, or the internet. Though I do not think we can find a specific date for the invention of the wheel. ;D
. Firsts. This can be like the date of the first person to reach the south pole, or when the first person walked on the moon. This can even be divided up into specific categories, like space, exploration, or many other things.

Well, thats all I got, or at least all the time I have to think.
Title: Re: Weekly themed 5-map tournament
Post by: UpperKEES on September 07, 2010, 11:28:03 PM
Quote from: Fisherck on September 07, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
. Dates major landmarks finished, like a nations capitol, the statue of liberty, and the eiffel tower.
. Terrorist attacks. 9/11 is not the only one.
. Firsts. This can be like the date of the first person to reach the south pole, or when the first person walked on the moon. This can even be divided up into specific categories, like space, exploration, or many other things.

Added.

Quote from: Fisherck on September 07, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
. Major inventions, like the light bulb, or the internet. Though I do not think we can find a specific date for the invention of the wheel. ;D

I thought of this one myself, but I wasn't sure if the dates of many mayor inventions are known or can be deduced to one specific date. Added anyway, because I'm sure we can find 5 inventions with a date attached to them and the theme is too nice to not be used.

Quote from: Fisherck on September 07, 2010, 10:46:49 PM
Well, thats all I got, or at least all the time I have to think.

Thanks for your contributions! :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament
Post by: Pyxis_GeeK on September 08, 2010, 08:09:05 AM

What about years that your favorite team won something? Like the World Cup for Soccer(football), the World Series for Baseball, the Super Bowl for American Football. I know there are alot of europeans here so the american sports may not do much for yall. Just a thought.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament
Post by: UpperKEES on September 08, 2010, 08:35:25 AM
I guess that would go under 'Impressive achievements in sports', but I would choose a theme that appeals to all players, so I wouldn't tie it to a certain team.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament
Post by: Pyxis_GeeK on September 08, 2010, 08:48:01 AM
I overlooked that in the initial list. My apologies. :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament
Post by: Katra on September 08, 2010, 11:23:12 PM
The invention of the wheel would be out of Chronom range anyway. As in BC... ;)

Dates states were admitted to the union would be another good theme.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament
Post by: UpperKEES on September 13, 2010, 01:07:38 AM
After winning the assassinations tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4585.msg24207#msg24207)), I've selected the theme for next weeks tournament: deadliest volcanic eruptions (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4715.0).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on September 20, 2010, 08:25:16 AM
After winning the deadliest volcanic eruptions tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4715.msg25076#msg25076)), I've selected the theme for next weeks tournament: computer (game) inventions (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4801.0).

I suggest that if I win this tournament as well (3 consecutive times) the runner up (#2) will pick next weeks theme, so themes will come from different people.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: Blaze on September 21, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Biggest technological break-throughs.

Thats one.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on September 21, 2010, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Blaze on September 21, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Biggest technological break-throughs.

In what does a break-through differ from an invention? Just checking, because I'm not sure myself.

Another proposal: I was thinking of the outbreak of plagues.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: RandyTravis on September 21, 2010, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on September 21, 2010, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Blaze on September 21, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Biggest technological break-throughs.

In what does a break-through differ from an invention? Just checking, because I'm not sure myself.

Another proposal: I was thinking of the outbreak of plagues.

I was thinking about that, because just like the deadliest floods... we don't know the exact date. We know the time period, the year, maybe even the month, or the part of the month... so... 10 maps? That's a bit much. Or the deadly floods of the Yellow River in China? Those lasted months usually.

What I thought would be fun would be like... disasters that were most  famous for a few days... like... August 29th - September 6th, 2005 or something would be an interesting series.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: Blaze on September 21, 2010, 11:44:18 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on September 21, 2010, 03:34:32 AM
Quote from: Blaze on September 21, 2010, 12:17:00 AM
Biggest technological break-throughs.

In what does a break-through differ from an invention? Just checking, because I'm not sure myself.

Another proposal: I was thinking of the outbreak of plagues.

Well, I gave it to you to throw around, make it whatever you want now.
Like Tech stuff or all around inventions.
Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on September 22, 2010, 05:02:08 AM
Quote from: RandyTravis on September 21, 2010, 12:43:13 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on September 21, 2010, 03:34:32 AM
Another proposal: I was thinking of the outbreak of plagues.

I was thinking about that, because just like the deadliest floods... we don't know the exact date. We know the time period, the year, maybe even the month, or the part of the month... so... 10 maps? That's a bit much. Or the deadly floods of the Yellow River in China? Those lasted months usually.

What I thought would be fun would be like... disasters that were most  famous for a few days... like... August 29th - September 6th, 2005 or something would be an interesting series.

Yeah, you really need to know a starting date for plagues and floods, otherwise picking a map becomes too random. I'm not sure about the selection of a 5-day period, because I can imagine it might contain some very easy maps (fools mates).

For the themes I picked myself I had a look at the maps corresponding to certain dates and just chose the ones that were a little harder. I think for any theme more than 5 dates can be found to pick from. For the tournaments the quality of the maps is probably more important than which specific dates have been chosen (as long as they match the chosen theme).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on September 27, 2010, 03:22:07 PM
With his second place in the computer (game) tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4801.msg25769#msg25769)), Alwego has selected the theme for next weeks tournament: richest people (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4882).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on October 04, 2010, 06:42:45 PM
After winning the richest people tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4882.msg26167#msg26167)), I have chosen the theme for next weeks tournament: math/physics/astronomy scientists (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4963).

Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: mthw2vc on October 04, 2010, 07:33:25 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on September 24, 2010, 05:55:45 PM
Let's extend this rule right now: as long as I keep winning the tournament the number 2 will pick the theme + maps. I will only be able to pick the theme again once I didn't win, but do win a future tournament. Everybody happy? 8)
I think Fisherck is supposed to be picking the theme this time...
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on October 04, 2010, 08:50:26 PM
Hmmm, I obviously forgot what I wrote here. My apologies to Fisherck! I just posted next weeks theme + maps, but I have no problem changing these to a theme + maps chosen by Fisherck. Just let me know by PM and I'll change it accordingly.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: Fisherck on October 04, 2010, 09:36:10 PM
Since I am to busy tonight I will let UpperKEES go ahead with the dates he already has. I will be smart  and plan ahead when I do have time, and get the dates and theme ready for next time I do win ;)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on October 04, 2010, 10:05:24 PM
Heheh, I just deleted my own selection, but I'm glad I made a copy for future use. Sorry again!

Quote from: UpperKEES on September 24, 2010, 05:55:45 PM
Let's extend this rule right now: as long as I keep winning the tournament the number 2 will pick the theme + maps. I will only be able to pick the theme again once I didn't win, but do win a future tournament.

Let's extend the rule one more time to make it as fair as possible:
- The winner of last weeks tournament picks the theme + maps for next weeks tournament
- When this winner won the previous tournament as well, the runner up (#2) will pick the theme + maps
- When this runner up already picked last weeks theme (same top 2 twice), the number three will pick the theme + maps
- When this number three already picked last weeks theme (same top 3 three times), the winner will pick the theme + maps again

Please let me know if there are any objections.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: Fisherck on October 04, 2010, 10:20:44 PM
Sounds good to me!
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: thepenguin on October 05, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
Let's extend the rule one more time to make it as fair as possible:
- The winner of last weeks tournament picks the theme + maps for next weeks tournament
- When this winner won the previous tournament as well, the runner up (#2) will pick the theme + maps
- When this runner up already picked last weeks theme (same top 2 twice), the number three will pick the theme + maps
- When this number three already picked last weeks theme (same top 3 three times), the winner will pick the theme + maps again the number four will pick the theme + maps

I agree, only there might be one change in it, I don't object to yours; just use whichever one you think is better
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: L'ythelle on October 05, 2010, 05:58:29 PM
Quote from: thepenguin on October 05, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
Let's extend the rule one more time to make it as fair as possible:
- The winner of last weeks tournament picks the theme + maps for next weeks tournament
- When this winner won the previous tournament as well, the runner up (#2) will pick the theme + maps
- When this runner up already picked last weeks theme (same top 2 twice), the number three will pick the theme + maps
- When this number three already picked last weeks theme (same top 3 three times), the winner will pick the theme + maps again the number four will pick the theme + maps

If we use this rule in 6 weeks it will be my turn. I better get thinking!  :-\
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: IcEcAt on October 05, 2010, 06:01:10 PM
and  in seven it will be my turn. sweet!
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: thepenguin on October 05, 2010, 08:25:08 PM
and, maybe I'll get 6th  :D
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on October 06, 2010, 05:05:10 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on October 05, 2010, 05:40:00 PM
the number four will pick the theme + maps

I agree, only there might be one change in it, I don't object to yours; just use whichever one you think is better

Nope, I prefer mine. First of all I think you should at least be in the top 3 to be able to pick a theme. Secondly in that case the number 1 already didn't pick the theme for 2 consecutive weeks. And don't forget: when the number 1 is the same, but the number 2 or number 3 are different it could be that the number 1 doesn't pick a theme for months!

Quote from: L'ythelle on October 05, 2010, 05:58:29 PM
If we use this rule in 6 weeks it will be my turn. I better get thinking!  :-\

With TP's proposal the number 6 would only be able to pick a theme when the top 6 would be exactly the same for 6 consecutive weeks. This chance is so small that the rule doesn't make sense.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: thepenguin on October 08, 2010, 04:20:41 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on October 06, 2010, 05:05:10 AM
With TP's proposal the number 6 would only be able to pick a theme when the top 6 would be exactly the same for 6 consecutive weeks. This chance is so small that the rule doesn't make sense.

I guess that wouldn't make much sense  :D
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: L'ythelle on October 08, 2010, 07:07:23 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on October 06, 2010, 05:05:10 AM
Quote from: L'ythelle on October 05, 2010, 05:58:29 PM
If we use this rule in 6 weeks it will be my turn. I better get thinking!  :-\
With TP's proposal the number 6 would only be able to pick a theme when the top 6 would be exactly the same for 6 consecutive weeks. This chance is so small that the rule doesn't make sense.

It was a joke Kees.  :P
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on October 08, 2010, 07:28:16 PM
Quote from: L'ythelle on October 08, 2010, 07:07:23 PM
It was a joke Kees.  :P

I know and I used it to show TP's proposal wasn't that sensible. ;)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on October 12, 2010, 02:12:24 PM
After his second place in the math/physics/astronomy scientists tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4963.msg26721#msg26721)), ctuna has chosen the theme for next weeks tournament: Notable Fighter Aces of the World (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5037.0).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: crazyone76 on October 14, 2010, 07:35:17 AM
your all forgetting something creeper world events like updates map editor chronom etc
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview topic
Post by: UpperKEES on October 14, 2010, 11:29:44 AM
You mean you suggest CW release dates as a theme? That's indeed possible, so I'll add it to the list.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 18, 2010, 02:10:04 AM
After his third place in the Fighter Aces tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5037.msg26959#msg26959)), Fisherck has chosen the theme for next weeks tournament: World Records for Running Events (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5071).

And could a moderator maybe sticky this overview topic? Thanks in advance! :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Fisherck on October 18, 2010, 09:17:29 AM
One theme I thought about using was the records for the toplist (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3833.0). There are five records (5 maps), but not all of them can be easily changed into a date. If someone could figure out how to do it, it might make a good theme. :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: L'ythelle on October 18, 2010, 09:50:15 AM
How about the date the map was accepted? For Spiff, you could use the date of his first map.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 18, 2010, 10:26:52 AM
That's a very nice idea! Added to the list of proposed themes (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4621.msg23547#msg23547).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Barbses on October 19, 2010, 07:06:30 PM
Appearances of Halley's Comet?

Some exact dates of its appearance are listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet#Apparitions (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halley%27s_Comet#Apparitions)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 20, 2010, 08:33:14 AM
Nice one as well! Added. (One of these appearances can be observed in one of my custom maps (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3875)! ;))
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 20, 2010, 10:43:29 AM
From chat today:

Quote(16:21:54) Grauniad: famous computer scientists?
(16:22:37) Grauniad: Babbage, Turin, Backus, Wirth and I'll think of anohter he's on the tip of my tongge
(16:22:55) Grauniad: *Knuth*
(16:24:34) Grauniad: 5 famous game devs: Sid Meier, whoever did DOOM, Mario, ??
(16:25:04) Grauniad: need more game devs: Pong developer, Asteroids developer
(16:25:18) Grauniad: 5 famous Sci-Fi authors
(16:25:40) Echo51: 5 famous C64 music composers
(16:27:20) Grauniad: 5 medical science breakthroughs: Penicillin, X-Rays, Heart transplant, hospital hygiene, cure for cancer (can be in the future :D)
(16:27:45) Echo51: dates the world was said to end
(16:40:50) Grauniad: 5 more idea, but I haven't got dates as yet. Extra-solar events: radio messages arriveing somewhere, Voyager arriving somewhere - our radio broadcasts arriving at a particular star system, etc...

All added. :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Karsten75 on October 20, 2010, 11:00:59 AM
Well, how about birthdates for the inventors of 5 significant computer languages?

I know:
-  Backus: Fortran (but he's already in another)
- Hopper: COBOL
- Ritchie: C
- Iverson: APL
- Basic: Kemeny/Kurtz
- Java: Gosling
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 20, 2010, 11:14:32 AM
Many good suggestions lately! Added.

We'll be playing tournaments for a loooooong time! :D
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Kamron3 on October 20, 2010, 02:06:24 PM
Don't forget about Nov.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 20, 2010, 02:12:52 PM
Quote from: Kamron3 on October 20, 2010, 02:06:24 PM
Don't forget about Nov.

Haven't seen you post about it, but maybe you've noticed the tournament table at page 1 currently ends at Oct 31.... ;)

I will organize it when you've posted about the prizes and theme (which you can determine as it's your prize money). You just have to be very sure you can and will be paying without any strings attached, because we don't want to get angry, disappointed or complaining players here.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Kamron3 on October 20, 2010, 02:16:32 PM
... Don't make me organize it, please... :(
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 20, 2010, 02:20:27 PM
Quote from: Kamron3 on October 20, 2010, 02:16:32 PM
... Don't make me organize it, please... :(

No worries, I won't.

I just want you to post the announcement about your idea of a full month tournament with 20 maps, the prizes that you will be donating and the theme that you like to pick (unless you rather leave that up to the person winning the tournament ending at Oct. 31). I can't and won't take responsibility for promises by others; I hope you understand. :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Katra on October 20, 2010, 04:42:22 PM
I've been looking up dates for using 'USS Enterprise' as a theme. Mostly commissioning dates for the various ships of that name. (Haven't looked at any of the maps - I currently have 7 dates; giving a reserve in case one of the maps has been played a lot.)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 20, 2010, 08:32:43 PM
Added as well. Not very strange that Science Fiction appeals to many CW players! :)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 22, 2010, 02:50:00 PM
Let's keep it nice and clean here and respect decisions made by the moderation team. You've probably seen the rule has been posted by Virgil and it's his game & site we're using.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: RandyTravis on October 25, 2010, 12:56:07 PM
So... what about riots?

April 29th, 1992 - rodney
April 12th, 1981 - brixton
october 13th, 2008 - sebian
?, 1921 - race riots

etc.

also, i really wish i could spend more time on tournaments. as is, i pretty much give cw half my attention while studying and then usually end up with a mediocre time. oh well... college > cw, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: ctuna on October 25, 2010, 01:45:13 PM
The Enterprise comment makes me wonder about the birth dates of the original crew; Kirk, Spock, Ohura, McCoy and (Scotty, Checkov, Sulu - who gets the last berth)? Of course I mean the actors, unless someone can find some serious trivia.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 26, 2010, 06:01:14 AM
Quote from: RandyTravis on October 25, 2010, 12:56:07 PM
So... what about riots?

Added.

Quote from: ctuna on October 25, 2010, 01:45:13 PM
birth dates of the original crew; [...] Of course I mean the actors, unless someone can find some serious trivia.

The actors theme (or a subcategory) can be used, unless birthdays of the characters are found.

After winning the World Records for Running Events tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5071.msg27511#msg27511)), Siccles has picked next weeks theme: really tall buildings (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5155).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 26, 2010, 08:16:30 AM
Quote from: UpperKEES on September 06, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
* Forum time or CTS (Central Standard Time, which is GMT/UTC minus 6 hours) is used to record your scores. When you hoover your mouse pointer over a score in the leaderboard for a certain map you'll see the time this score has been submitted. Midnight sharp (0:00:00) is the deadline every Sunday evening, no exceptions!

I just tried posting a score and found a difference of only 6 hours again with Dutch time (where I would expect 7), so I probably didn't take daylight saving time into account. Daylight saving time ends here at Oct 31, while the US switches to normal time at the first Sunday of November, so you may want to pay attention to this when posting scores.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: SPIFFEN on October 26, 2010, 08:31:51 AM
Hours should'nt matter to much when the score got posted ,
if you ask me , easy to get confused =P
Might even be someone who gets an new date 24 hours before others ,
so time zones might make it hard for those who set the forum for their timezone =P
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 26, 2010, 09:17:55 AM
Well, it's even more complicated, because the time stamps of the scores are probably set by a different server than the one the forum runs on. The best way to determine it for yourself is to post a score and check the time stamp by hoovering your mouse pointer over it, so you'll know the amount of hours the server time differs from your local time.

I have to use 1 time to make it fair for everyone participating. The only person affected by this rule is myself up to now (although I wouldn't have lost or gained a spot), so let's keep it like this. If I only use a date (which I actually do), when would this date end?
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: SPIFFEN on October 26, 2010, 09:31:40 AM
The rule are set as normal forum time by you , so keep that .
I just wanna say that some could be confused if they changed the forum time =P
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 26, 2010, 09:36:15 AM
That's exactly why I explained how to check the time stamps by yourself. Next week daylight saving time will end and revert to normal time, while the US does this one week later (if I understood correctly), which could create even more confusion. It's every players own responsibility to make sure their scores get posted in time.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on October 27, 2010, 08:20:32 AM
Additional rule: it is not allowed for the same player to submit scores with different names. If done so, both names will be disqualified.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: SPIFFEN on October 27, 2010, 08:38:49 AM
Lol did someone do that =P
Oh thats right , i have been useing youre name here , so you havent played any of the maps =P
( Just kidding if someone did'nt get that )

I cant say that i have noticed that someone has done this ,
but it would be nice if everyone used my name for all maps , so i would be the only one with posted scores =S
( Just kidding again )
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on November 01, 2010, 01:39:54 AM
After winning the really tall buildings tournament (see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5155.msg27797#msg27797)), I have picked the theme proposed by hi for next weeks tournament: Einstein's Miracle Year (1905) (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5195.msg27796#msg27796).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Colin on November 02, 2010, 01:36:01 AM
I noticed in the first post. . . The person in "second" place overall has
only 1 gold medal where-as the "third place" person has 2 silver medals
and 1 bronze medal. Has there been a "point-based" system established
to calculate what medals are worth what?

Example:
              Gold medal       Silver medal         Bronze medal
Billy             1                      0                        0
Willy             0                      4                       8             
Philly            0                      3                       15


If you assign each medal a point say...

   Gold = 3
  Silver = 2
Bronze = 1

Then what happens to my example?

Example2:
              Gold medal       Silver medal         Bronze medal      Total points in medals
Philly             0                     3                      15                            21
Willy             0                     4                       8                             16
Billy              1                     0                       0                             3


Now this is an extreme example but... Do you see my point in this?
The "winner" has won only 1 gold medal, but overall did he do better
than the 2nd place or 3rd place winners? This may prevent confusion
later, just a thought.  8)
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on November 02, 2010, 02:24:39 AM
Good point, I had been thinking about this myself as well. Until now I just used the Olympic ranking system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olympic_medal_table), but I could indeed make it point based, which seems more fair for players that have earned quite a few silver and/or bronze medals.

I wouldn't assign 3 points to a gold medal however, but 4. That way 2 silver = 1 gold and 2 bronze = 1 silver (otherwise silver would relatively be worth more). This weighted ranking system is also described at the bottom of above mentioned article. I'll calculate the points tomorrow when there are no major objections.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on November 03, 2010, 02:02:25 AM
Quote from: UpperKEES on November 02, 2010, 02:24:39 AM
I'll calculate the points tomorrow when there are no major objections.

As there were no major objections I have adjusted the ranking system to be point based. See here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4621.msg23547#msg23547) for the medal table (scroll to bottom of post).
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: Colin on November 08, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
I think we should add the birthdays of people on the forums to the list of themes.  :P
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview & rules
Post by: UpperKEES on November 09, 2010, 10:31:45 AM
Nah. Some members like to keep this info to themselves and even more people will already have played that date.
Title: Some posting guidelines & tips for the winner of a tournament
Post by: UpperKEES on November 14, 2010, 09:35:48 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on September 06, 2010, 04:58:19 PM
The winner (best total score) gets to pick a new theme from the list of proposed themes by the community in this topic and publish the dates to be played before Monday evening at midnight (forum time). Last weeks winner is also responsible for determining next weeks winner by calculating/checking the total scores. Each tournament will have its own topic where players can post scores and discuss their progress.

I'll post a few guidelines and tips for the winner of a tournament to ease the posting of the tournament results and next weeks tournament topic:

Regarding calculating and posting the results of the tournament you won:
1. Of course the final results haven't been posted yet, but I'm sure the winner will know he has won by adding and comparing his scores.
2. First check if all scores have been submitted in time. Hover your mouse pointer over the scores on the web page to view their timestamps.
3. To calculate all score totals by other players you can use a calculator, but you can also use Microsoft Excel (or any other spreadsheet program). Just select all rows & columns on the web page with scores and press Ctrl-C (copy). Select a cell in your spreadsheet and use 'paste special' (right mouse) which allows you to select the 'text' option so all data will be put into different cells. Repeat this for the 4 other maps. After that delete the columns you don't need and drag & drop the scores behind the name of the according person. Use the SUM function to calculate the totals. This way you'll have your results ready within 5 minutes.
4. To post the results you may want to use a table. You can set one up from scratch by using the table buttons (see the overview of BB-codes and buttons (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=help;page=post#bbcref)), but it's much easier to just copy a table of a previous tournament by quoting that post and copying it into your own post. Just replace the player names and scores after that. Click the winning scores in the tournament table (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4621.msg23547#msg23547) for an example.
5. It's a tradition that the winner of a tournament posts screenshots of his solutions for others to learn from. Use the backspace key to create a screeny; it will automatically be saved in your 'documents\creeperworld_screens' folder. When posting click 'Additional Options' to be able to attach them. Use the 'Insert Image' button or IMG-tag when you also like to embed them into the post itself.

Regarding posting next weeks tournament theme & topic:
1. When you are not the one selecting the theme because you already won the week before as well, please PM the number 2 to provide you a theme + dates of maps to be played. You already may want to do this on Sunday, so you'll be able to post the new tournament data on Monday. Thinking of a theme in advance never hurts.
2. When selecting the theme yourself just pick one from the list (see first post of this thread) or think of one yourself. Please make sure it will appeal to a wide variety of players.
3. When selecting the dates of maps to be played make sure these maps haven't been played before. I would also check if you're not posting too many fools mates maps (maps that can be finished without engaging the creeper at all), but that's a personal preference.
4. Try to include some interesting data about the selected events/dates, see previous tournaments for an example.
5. When entering the name of the new tournament topic, please use this format: "Weekly history tournament - [theme title] - closing [date of next Sunday]".
6. When posting all tournament data you may want to use a table (the only way to align data in columns and keep it resizeable for every screen size/resolution). Again quoting a post of a previous tournament and copying its table is the easiest option here when you don't want to create it from scratch (see above).
7. Please provide a link to the first post of this thread (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=4621.msg23547#msg23547), containing the overview of themes, previous tournaments, players rankings and most important: the rules!

Well, that's about it. Seems like a lot of work, but you'll get used to it after winning some tournaments.... ;) It's the price you pay for being good. :P

Don't hesitate to ask questions when you don't understand something or need some help. You can post here or send me a PM. :)

I will keep updating the overview, even when I don't participate (like this week), as it is unfortunately impossible to transfer ownership of a thread.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview, rules & rankings
Post by: UpperKEES on January 11, 2011, 06:32:19 PM
Hi all,

I have decided to leave the forums, so I won't be able to update this overview topic any more. Sorry for that.

As it is not possible to transfer ownership I suggest someone starts a new topic (by quoting the first post) to be able to update it.

Grtz, Kees
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview, rules & rankings
Post by: Kamron3 on January 11, 2011, 08:19:26 PM
Quote from: UpperKEES on January 11, 2011, 06:32:19 PM
Hi all,

I have decided to leave the forums, so I won't be able to update this overview topic any more. Sorry for that.

As it is not possible to transfer ownership I suggest someone starts a new topic (by quoting the first post) to be able to update it.

Grtz, Kees

???
What?!?

Why???

This makes me want to leave the forums now.
Title: Re: Weekly 5-map history theme tournament - overview, rules & rankings
Post by: UpperKEES on January 11, 2011, 08:35:13 PM
Quote from: Ichigo on January 11, 2011, 08:19:26 PM
???
What?!?

Why???

See here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=978.msg31278#msg31278).

Quote from: Ichigo on January 11, 2011, 08:19:26 PM
This makes me want to leave the forums now.

Don't. CW is a lot of fun when you have enough time to play it and it will be even more fun when CW2 comes out. I just don't have the time right now....