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Title: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: AutoPost on March 06, 2013, 01:48:10 am
This topic is for discussion of map #2046: Little Trick (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2046)
(http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/thumb.php?id=2046) (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?mapid=2046)

Author: CJY101 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld2/viewmaps.php?author=CJY101)

Desc:
Use what you know to Creeper world. Can you complete it? (Use Editor ver.0439, Game ver.0497.) 運用你所知道的爬行世界。 你能完成它嗎?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 06, 2013, 02:16:41 am
omg
what should i do
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: J on March 06, 2013, 07:54:58 am
wait 4 minutes until you can get to the room above your LS (use your blaster to kill the remaining creeper)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: kittychow on March 06, 2013, 10:42:17 am
So what is the trick? 127 downloads and only the guy who made the map has a score.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: J on March 06, 2013, 10:52:01 am
As you can see in the scores, I haven't found it yet. I suspect you have to move your blaster (when you have it) next to the working ore deposit (the one that is digging towards 8 blasters) so you can keep the supply route free of creeper. If you don't know the ins and outs of creeper world it is impossible (you must know how to dig under your LS to reach the MR and that packets only need the center subcell and the 2 where it comes from/goes to to be free of creeper). Also you can't collect the bunker until you can handle the drones whith blasters.
General hints for this map: Try to get more techs, and if you can't rech the techs, try to get more units. If you don't have the tech, don't let any unit of that kind die. You sometimes have to wait before you can do something.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 06, 2013, 07:01:25 pm
wait 4 minutes until you can get to the room above your LS (use your blaster to kill the remaining creeper)

I did not use wait or field changes as the beginning.
This is not the way I like it.
This is not my style.
If this is done,  this approach is not good.

If you want to know.
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 12:23:41 am
.......
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 07, 2013, 12:25:19 am
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.

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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 12:26:34 am
haha,i just fishing him just before u post it
ty anyway
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: J on March 07, 2013, 02:10:50 am
I never knew about fishing... Thanks for showing me.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 04:21:10 am
omg,the phantom keep kill the capsule
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 04:47:46 am
nvm,i can get the coil now
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 05:59:51 am
now the question is,how to kil the creeper at the capsule room
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 06:07:49 am
nvm again,i manage to stop the drone to kill the capsule
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 08:36:03 am
soon u will see my name in score board
muahaaa
joke
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 07, 2013, 10:02:34 pm
now the question is,how to kil the creeper at the capsule room


The Capsule room just close Micro Rift, there would be no packet attacks of the enemy.
Each Tech has its uses.
Do not use the Blaster attack too many creeper.
Also do not use the Launcher attack ,Such as capsules room.
It will only waste time.
I would not have this design, that only very boring.

This map using overflow, Includes creeper and anti-creeper.
Open show creeper field will be found.

Also need detailed answers to each room?
Title: I don't Know How to get 'ORE RIG' tech
Post by: misoline on March 07, 2013, 10:25:25 pm
Tell me.. plz
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 11:25:20 pm
omg,i just use launcher at the capsule room and its 90 min now lol
should have think of that
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 07, 2013, 11:27:00 pm
is it posibble to win this without taking the crystal???
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: misoline on March 07, 2013, 11:34:32 pm
Tell me the way Please...~

"How to get ORG RIG tech" ?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 12:24:01 am
before taking the ore rick u need to take the coil first
if you have take it then no problem

at the oil rick room,destryod the oil rick ,then bait the drone with blue creeper with your blaster to go there,u need one level upgrade of movement speed to go there

sry for my bad english and explanation
and sry if this become spoiler
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: misoline on March 08, 2013, 12:38:40 am
I have already coil.

at last.

What I need is nullifier.... how to get this..

Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 12:44:57 am
get the oil rig
can u get the oil rig?

Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 12:45:50 am
OMG
i just almost get the dark mirror,but i have destryed the waygate that produce the dig
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 12:52:30 am
and i almost forgor,turn of the ability to atk of the blaster to bair the drone
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 08, 2013, 01:36:54 am
Tell me the way Please...~

"How to get ORG RIG tech" ?

If you want to get Ore Rig.

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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 08, 2013, 01:37:47 am
OMG
i just almost get the dark mirror,but i have destryed the waygate that produce the dig
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

Be careful ah.
You are about to be complete this map.
 :D
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: misoline on March 08, 2013, 01:45:43 am
No I can't have oil rig..

I don't understand your way...

I can do Fishing.. But

I don't know where to go... -_-;;;;;;;;

Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 08, 2013, 01:54:45 am
No I can't have oil rig..

I don't understand your way...

I can do Fishing.. But

I don't know where to go... -_-;;;;;;;;


Are you have get the 8 blaster?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: misoline on March 08, 2013, 01:57:25 am
No.~~... I have Only Coil tech...~
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 08, 2013, 02:03:49 am
No.~~... I have Only Coil tech...~

If you want to get 8 blaster.
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 02:04:17 am
FINALLY
I FINISHED
MUAHAAAA
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 02:08:48 am
here u go my friend
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 02:11:57 am
CJY101:you my friend have made my day for 2 days,make me cant sleep to think how to solve this,hahaha
this is the best map ever,though me how to think before doing and make me mo care to my unit.hope i can see the other nice super map
>_<
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 08, 2013, 02:15:54 am
FINALLY
I FINISHED
MUAHAAAA

Finally someone completed this map.
However, you spend time really is more.

here u go my friend

How do you not use you get the tech?
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 08, 2013, 02:18:17 am
about the time,well its rly,maybe i will improve it next time i play

ow,ya,didnt think about that
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: misoline on March 08, 2013, 09:10:15 pm
Thank you. SomeOne..~ ^^

Now, I got the Nullifier...^^


and then....

I got the "Beacon"

Have a nice weekend~~



Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Bongo on March 08, 2013, 10:42:16 pm
I can't tell if this is two people who can't speak English or one guy trolling a non-English speaker. :P (or two guys trolling each other...)

Well, my DVR is full and ready, time to start a 90+ minute map :)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: misoline on March 09, 2013, 12:12:52 am
How To get c-bomb? or dark-mirror....?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 09, 2013, 04:19:34 am
i am not a good english speaker sry

take the dark mirror first then take the bomb,also NEVER kill the waygate above your LS,or you gonna start over the game
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Someone on March 09, 2013, 04:20:08 am
Bongo:what is DVR
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: ea3401 on March 09, 2013, 05:52:09 pm
Phew! I've done it! Brilliant puzzle map! :)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 09, 2013, 10:30:29 pm
Phew! I've done it! Brilliant puzzle map! :)

Thank complete the map.  :D
and so on, will upload the answer to all rooms.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 09, 2013, 10:51:32 pm
This is the answer to every room, Starting from the second room.
Know the answer, This map will be to lose thinking and fun.
The following is a sequence, but some may be performed simultaneously, or even earlier execution.
Hope not too early to provide an answer. :)

Phantom Coil Tech
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8 Blaster
(click to show/hide)

Maker Tech
(click to show/hide)

Ore Rig Tech
(click to show/hide)

Nullifier Tech
(click to show/hide)

Beacon Tech
(click to show/hide)

Blaster Tech
(click to show/hide)

Shield Tech
(click to show/hide)

Repulsor Tech
(click to show/hide)

Launcher Tech
(click to show/hide)

Micro Rift Tech
(click to show/hide)

one Dark Mirror
(click to show/hide)

Conversion Bomb Tech
(click to show/hide)

Solve the emitter.
(click to show/hide)

Dark Beam Tech
(click to show/hide)

Dark Mirror Tech
(click to show/hide)

Rescue Capsule.
(click to show/hide)

Solve the channel inside the Micro Rift.
(click to show/hide)

The elimination of the last Drone 3000 Health.
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Walkn on March 09, 2013, 10:53:29 pm
For sure one of the most interesting map i've done : congrats for this work ! ;)

Now, i've finished with compliments ^^ and need a little help (after trying so many things ??? >:( ), i can't be able to take the tech in the red circle (see spoiler), and it's the key to finish the map and i know how.
I don't use to ask for help but now i'm fed up ! :D
Thanks in advance !

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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Walkn on March 09, 2013, 10:57:40 pm
I'm stupid ;D : how did i miss it ? ::)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 09, 2013, 11:02:04 pm
I'm stupid ;D : how did i miss it ? ::)
;D

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By the way, in the Section 16 rooms. (Compare Obvious)
If the cover too many Micro Rift,
When Drone through the Micro Rift.
Terrible things may happen.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 10, 2013, 10:47:28 pm
I'm stupid ;D : how did i miss it ? ::)
;D

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By the way, in the Section 16 rooms. (Compare Obvious)
If the cover too many Micro Rift,
When Drone through the Micro Rift.
Terrible things may happen.


This should be a BUG.
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Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: Walkn on March 11, 2013, 01:29:25 am
At last i did it ! :) :) :)
What a nightmare, but a so lovely nightmare when it's finished !
Really really really hard in fact, i thought i will be able to finish it easily but no ! :o
My time is really awfull but i will do it again later improving the ways to solve the different problems.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 12, 2013, 09:03:21 am
Phew! I've done it! Brilliant puzzle map! :)
This map took some time to making., Thank you for completing it.

At last i did it ! :) :) :)
What a nightmare, but a so lovely nightmare when it's finished !
Really really really hard in fact, i thought i will be able to finish it easily but no ! :o
My time is really awfull but i will do it again later improving the ways to solve the different problems.
Although a long time, but you eventually completed it.
Thank you.

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I hope to bring you some fun. :D
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: PMouser on March 16, 2013, 06:42:55 am
help please, i cant figure out the spoiler, thanks
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on March 16, 2013, 11:16:27 pm
help please, i cant figure out the spoiler, thanks

Please elaborate of where difficulties,
Answer not clear enough?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: swekaj on May 17, 2013, 02:01:42 pm
Blaster Tech
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How do I destroy the drones in that room? Fishing doesn't seem to work and the blaster barely hurt them.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: bigmac25 on May 17, 2013, 04:16:38 pm
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.

(click to show/hide)


I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.

The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.

The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.

Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.

What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?

Help?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: J on May 17, 2013, 05:29:13 pm
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.

(click to show/hide)


I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.

The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.

The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.

Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.

What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?

Help?
You can just move the blaster right out of the ground.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: bigmac25 on May 18, 2013, 04:39:43 am
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.

(click to show/hide)


I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.

The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.

The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.

Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.

What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?

Help?
You can just move the blaster right out of the ground.

I'm good with that. I just can't seem to get one of the flying creeper bombs to decay enough of the square before a capsule gets destroyed. The first flying bomb hits, but all the creeper stays in the corner, then slowly disappears. By the time I wait another two minutes for another set of flying bombs (or four minutes if the 2nd wave of flyers doesn't find that room) a capsule gets destroyed.

The way it seems it should work (from what I've read above), it seems like that first flyer should leave enough creeper to destroy the decayable block just above the command ship, but it doesn't. So I wait.

How do I get enough creeper on the block just above the command ship to destroy it so I can get my blaster down there?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on May 20, 2013, 06:25:14 am
Blaster Tech
(click to show/hide)
How do I destroy the drones in that room? Fishing doesn't seem to work and the blaster barely hurt them.

This stage do not have enough power to destroy the drone in this room.
So you need to fishing to other rooms.
At least to get Blaster Tech,
And until there is sufficient upgrade,
Or want to slowly consumed is also possible.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: CJY101 on May 20, 2013, 06:28:03 am
I use picture demonstration, will be more clearly.
This is the beginning.

(click to show/hide)


I'm good up to the first pic in spoiler #2 and with the fishing.

The problem with me is I can't seem to get the decayable ground right above the ship to decay fast enough to destroy it.

The creeper in spoiler #2 in the room above the command ship disappears before it destroys the decayable ground. After that, it's hit or miss for where the flying creeper bomb things go.

Usually, by the time I get one to fly into the upper room and finally destroy the decayable ground that frees up my blaster, the room on the left decays and kills my command ship.

What am I doing wrong? Is it a glitch that removes the creeper from the very first flying creeper bomb in the upper room right after it starts?

Help?
You can just move the blaster right out of the ground.

I'm good with that. I just can't seem to get one of the flying creeper bombs to decay enough of the square before a capsule gets destroyed. The first flying bomb hits, but all the creeper stays in the corner, then slowly disappears. By the time I wait another two minutes for another set of flying bombs (or four minutes if the 2nd wave of flyers doesn't find that room) a capsule gets destroyed.

The way it seems it should work (from what I've read above), it seems like that first flyer should leave enough creeper to destroy the decayable block just above the command ship, but it doesn't. So I wait.

How do I get enough creeper on the block just above the command ship to destroy it so I can get my blaster down there?

If you do not have a way of fishing,
Want to use the Phantoms of creepers to get the Blaster,
Seems unlikely.
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: GamaLight on May 21, 2013, 03:08:32 pm
Okay, can someone please make a playthrough video of this map?
I've finished all but three maps of CW2 and this is one of them and it makes me crazy after starting it for at least 500 times.

Tnx
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: bigmac25 on May 26, 2013, 04:18:42 am
Quote
If you do not have a way of fishing,
Want to use the Phantoms of creepers to get the Blaster,
Seems unlikely.

How do you destroy the decayable block just above the command ship?
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: ea3401 on May 26, 2013, 05:12:22 am
How do you destroy the decayable block just above the command ship?

See Reply #07 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12813.msg91004#msg91004)
Title: Re: Custom Map #2046: Little Trick
Post by: bigmac25 on May 30, 2013, 02:57:50 am
How do you destroy the decayable block just above the command ship?

See Reply #07 (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=12813.msg91004#msg91004)

Ah. Crap. I was fishing the wrong one.

Duh on me. Thanks.