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Title: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: AutoPost on May 17, 2010, 12:08:08 PM
This topic is for discussion of map: SPIFFENs Bird 2 (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/mapcomments.php?id=1919)
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Author: SPIFFEN (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewmaps.php?author=SPIFFEN)

Desc:
This is called Bird because of the ending ,
but its more like an bridge map .
So see if you can find the best way to make the bridge safe ,
so you can fly to connect the Totems .
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: cquante on May 17, 2010, 11:47:13 PM
I'm stumped.  Getting across wasn't bad.  I even managed to get the upgrades.  Nothing I try gets me across the wall.  Hint? Help? Video walk-through?

Thanks,

Charlie
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: Blaze on May 17, 2010, 11:51:48 PM
Build collectors on the other side of the pink wall and float a weapon over it back and forth untill everything is powered up. Try not to lose the connection.
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: cquante on May 18, 2010, 01:38:13 AM
Quote from: Blaze on May 17, 2010, 11:51:48 PM
Build collectors on the other side of the pink wall and float a weapon over it back and forth untill everything is powered up. Try not to lose the connection.

Ah! Thanks
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: SPIFFEN on May 18, 2010, 08:03:09 AM
Quote from: cquante on May 18, 2010, 01:38:13 AM
Quote from: Blaze on May 17, 2010, 11:51:48 PM
Build collectors on the other side of the pink wall and float a weapon over it back and forth untill everything is powered up. Try not to lose the connection.
Ah! Thanks
Float the tower/weapon over the wall UP AND DOWN , then it stays connected for an longer time .
Use the land/space where the upgrades is to do it .

roccologic has an Avatar (GIF) that shows how the tower/weapon should be moved :
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=profile;u=712
The Avatar (GIF) is here :
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: bdozen on May 19, 2010, 03:36:38 PM
but how do you get the first collector on the right?  when I go up and down the middle, no connections are made, or are even attempted to be made?
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: SPIFFEN on May 19, 2010, 03:48:23 PM
Quote from: bdozen on May 19, 2010, 03:36:38 PM
but how do you get the first collector on the right?  when I go up and down the middle, no connections are made, or are even attempted to be made?
I think you mean Totem , so :
You need to build an collector on the other side of the wall first .
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: bdozen on May 19, 2010, 03:59:21 PM
in the animated GIF, there is a collector that is "active" on the right?  I can't get anything active on the right.   when I move my Blaster up and down the pink line, none of the collectors try to connect to it.  i also have it disarmed like in the GIF.
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: UpperKEES on May 19, 2010, 04:03:37 PM
Disarming is not necessary (although you might want to save the energy used for ammo). One of the collectors needs to be 'active' (that is: connected to Odin City through the network). If you don't see a white network connection line the collectors are too far away, or your blaster is not exactly above the crazonium wall.
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: SPIFFEN on May 19, 2010, 04:08:16 PM
Try to do something like this :
(http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/5274/bird2float.th.jpg) (http://img202.imageshack.us/i/bird2float.jpg/)

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Use pause to change the way it fly , so you dont lose connection to 1 of the collectors .
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: SPIFFEN on May 19, 2010, 04:16:11 PM
Quote from: bdozen on May 19, 2010, 03:59:21 PM
in the animated GIF, there is a collector that is "active" on the right?  I can't get anything active on the right.   when I move my Blaster up and down the pink line, none of the collectors try to connect to it.  i also have it disarmed like in the GIF.
Dont pay to much attation to the gif , i only used it to illustrate that the tower should move up and down along the red wall .
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: bdozen on May 19, 2010, 04:19:49 PM
thanks for the help, but it is just not working.  I am doing exactly what you said (and it makes perfect sense to me) and just like in the screen shot, but it will not connect.

thanks again.   oh well
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: SPIFFEN on May 19, 2010, 04:25:42 PM
Maybe someone can make an video about it ,
so it is'nt any confusion at all about how to do this =P
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: UpperKEES on May 19, 2010, 04:47:55 PM
To be honest I think a map that requires bridging should always be rated 'Expert Only'. This will avoid these kind of questions. I know it's mentioned in the description and I also know about your policy of rating all your maps 'Trivial', but in this case you should have made an exception. You're lucky that I didn't review this map, as I would have changed the rating.... ;)
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: SPIFFEN on May 19, 2010, 05:07:33 PM
He he =) I have seen an post about bridging should be rated as experts only ,
but if i had done that in this map , i think the comments had been nags about that the map isnt for experts only =P

And the bridging as it is in this map , isnt for experts anymore .
Just very hard for new players that havent learnd this yet .

Maybe an try of this map might help :
http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=2218.0
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: Karsten75 on May 19, 2010, 05:38:35 PM
SPIFFEN asked that someone make a video of this map. If SPIFFEN asks, how can we not comply? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hp1DEs6rzPI
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: SPIFFEN on May 20, 2010, 06:21:48 AM
Nice Thx , now it should'nt be a problem of how to finnish / solve this map =)
Title: Re: Custom Map: SPIFFENs Bird 2
Post by: mthw2vc on July 09, 2010, 03:15:02 PM
bdozen may have the issue of an old game version. I seem to recall there having been a bug in 0346 in which nothing that was floating over any wall would connect to anything else.