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Author: UpperKEES (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewmaps.php?author=UpperKEES)
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No tricks or luck required, just skill and persistence. Definitely the hardest map I've made (and will make). I hope you don't mind a few tries to pick up necessary items, find a good starting position and build up your initial economy. Your first attempt WILL fail. Tips on request (see comments).
Title: | Nice Job 4: The Plumber |
Difficulty: | Expert Only |
Creeper type: | Land only |
Remarks: | No tricks or luck required, just skill and persistence. Definitely the hardest map I've made (and will make). I hope you don't mind a few tries to pick up necessary items (sacrifice some collectors), find a good starting position and build up your initial economy. Your first attempt WILL fail. Tips on request (see comments). |
Description: | Today you are a plumber and you have been called for a job:
- Check the tab above the sink.
- Check the shower.
- Check the gooseneck of the toilet.
- Check all drains to the sewer.
- Fix the two leaks in the sewer.
- Mop the mess with Cillit Bang lime power cleaner.
Unfortunately you were clumsy and dropped your tool box, so your equipment is all over the bathroom. |
Download page: | Nice Job 4: The Plumber (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/mapcomments.php?id=1652) |
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Flying around to several points to collect the things before even getting started is a neat concept. I still say the athlete was harder though.
I enjoyed this!
Thanks! The Athlete was more 'tricky' though. I've stepped away from that, as many people seem to prefer playing straight forward instead of solving a puzzle.
I was just playing EFK-01 Ventil and already restarted 2 times after some nasty spores.... ;) Looking good, expect comments soon.
I must say I didn't found it expert only.
But don't trust me, some of my medium maps are expert only for some.
But it was fun, challenging, fun, a nice map and more fun.
Quote from: UpperKEES on April 23, 2010, 10:42:33 AM
I was just playing EFK-01 Ventil and already restarted 2 times after some nasty spores.... ;)
You think that's bad, wait til the Basin, #5. I manually entered many spore waves to make a pattern you need to memorize and shift all the SAM's around to stop them between waves, lol :)
Too hard for me. Clearly an "expert-only" map as indicated.
@ Sqaz:
Yeah, I seem to misjudge the difficulty rating of my own maps easily. Maps that I find very hard are considered normal, and maps that I consider medium only get 3 scores.... Maybe this is because I want to do my maps 'my way' (to obtain a high score).
Glad you had fun though!
@ Vexsin:
No, not that bad (although I expected less), but 3 spores got to the same SAM.... Let's continue in your topic when I finish it; I got busy, but have it still running. Regarding the pattern: I might 'cheat' and write it down from the map editor. :P
@ Karsten:
I'm happy at least someone finds it's a tough map! Future maps will be a little less tough (if I can still judge that, probably not).
I can't seem to get past the area by the blaster tech, once i get there, which is where i start, i cant expand out, but only hold the creeper back at a standstill..help please?
Spoiler
After getting the blaster tech (and 1 upgrade if you like to sacrifice one more collector), I always move to the area between the sink and the bath tub.
After skipping map 2 and 3 I gave this one a try, I lost quickly the first few tries, but then I tried what seemed to be a bad strategy. I ignored everything and went for the Mortar Tech. Stuck in the NW corner with nothing but Mortar's to defend me it was slow going. It took a long time but eventually with I broke my way back to the blaster and away I went.
I can't imagine that's a normal way of finishing that map, but I guess whatever works ....
Quote from: pizza_steve on May 25, 2010, 02:27:36 AM
After skipping map 2 and 3 I gave this one a try
Besides a common theme there's no story line in my maps, so you can play them in any order. If you still like to finish NJ2 & NJ3 some day, you might wanna have a look at the old comments and/or my custom map thread (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=978.0) for some hints how to solve them.
Quote from: pizza_steve on May 25, 2010, 02:27:36 AM
I lost quickly the first few tries, but then I tried what seemed to be a bad strategy. I ignored everything and went for the Mortar Tech. Stuck in the NW corner with nothing but Mortar's to defend me it was slow going. It took a long time but eventually with I broke my way back to the blaster and away I went.
Spoiler
Well, it's definitely the best spot to be after a couple of minutes, but with only mortars you must have had a hard time reaching the other techs. I use the first minute to pick up the blaster tech and 2 upgrades before I move to that north west corner, which will save you a lot of time and energy later on.
Quote from: pizza_steve on May 25, 2010, 02:27:36 AM
I can't imagine that's a normal way of finishing that map, but I guess whatever works ....
Yep, that's true. I love it when a map can be won by applying different strategies and people posting about their approach, so everybody can learn for each other. Thanks for playing! :)
Fun stuff!
(And, I beat Anonymous...who should be renamed ubiquitous.)
He sure is. He played 863 maps (only Laguna2008 has played more). Anonymous even played this map (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/mapcomments.php?id=2308) 39 times! :o
Okay, I know my time is sad, but I enjoyed every minute of it! ;)
Great map KEES! :D
now that I know what to do, I'll probably come back and replay it later.
Thanks Colin! :)
Your time maybe isn't great, but I know how you started off this map and I'm actually surprised you survived!
This is one of the first maps I made and I still like it myself.
Quote from: AutoPost on April 23, 2010, 07:58:54 AM
Definitely the hardest map I've made (and will make).
This is not true by the way, but hey, what did I know at that time? Nothing! ;)
I believe I made significant progress from my first attempt of 83 minutes. ;)
I can't begin to imagine how you guys are getting under 20 minutes on this.
I must be way over-building (or under-playing).
:)
dbit
Quote from: Colin on November 30, 2010, 06:38:55 PM
I believe I made significant progress from my first attempt of 83 minutes. ;)
Yeah, I believe you did!
Quote from: DethbyIT on January 06, 2011, 06:23:04 PM
I can't begin to imagine how you guys are getting under 20 minutes on this.
I must be way over-building (or under-playing).
:)
dbit
Spoiler
- Pick up some upgrades on the way.
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- Go for the reactors as soon as possible.
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- First build as much energy as you think you'll need.
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- Go for the totems by fighting at multiple fronts.