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Misc. => Builder's Corner => Topic started by: Kamron3 on July 23, 2011, 10:39:11 PM

Title: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Kamron3 on July 23, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185 (SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive)
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213 (COOLER MASTER HAF 932 Blue RC-932-KKN3-GP Black Steel ATX Full Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0)
CD/DVD Burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136238 (LG CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model GH22NS70 OEM - OEM)
Wireless Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16833166051 (Rosewill RNX-N300X PCI Wireless Adapter)
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130693 (EVGA 03G-P3-1596-AR GeForce GTX 590 (Fermi) 3072MB 768-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support)
Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824228032 (HP DEBRANDED TSS-25M9 Black 25" 3ms(GTG) HDMI Widescreen Full HD 1080p LCD Monitor)
Heatsink: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181016 (CORSAIR H80 (CWCH80) High Performance Liquid CPU Cooler)
SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148442 (Crucial M4 CT128M4SSD2 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD))
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817121068 (KINGWIN Lazer LZ-1000 1000W Modular 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC W/ 3-Way LED Switch)
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231429 (G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model)
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138317 (BIOSTAR TP67XE (B3) LGA 1155 Intel P67 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard)
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070 (Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor)

Total: $2,272


I'm getting $4K within the next few days. I don't want to spend any more than $2,000 on a computer. I want to be able to do:

- Advanced video conversions
- Play Oblivion on Extreme graphics without lag
- Play Minecraft (lol)
- Office stuff for school work

I believe this setup should work fine for that, but I want to see if there are any modifications I can make to get the most out of this computer as possible.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Ebon Heart on July 23, 2011, 11:00:27 PM
Quote from: Kamron3 on July 23, 2011, 10:39:11 PM
Part list permalink (http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/taq) / Part price breakdown by merchant (http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ar/taq/by_merchant)

CPU:  Intel Core i7-970 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80613i7970)  ($579.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler:  Thermalright U120eXtrem1366RT R-C 63.7 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/thermalright-cpu-cooler-u120extrem1366rtrc)  ($62.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:  ASRock X58 EXTREME ATX  LGA1366 Motherboard (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-x58extreme)  ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:  Kingston 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-memory-kvr1333d3n9k312g)  ($80.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive:  Samsung Spinpoint F3R 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/samsung-internal-hard-drive-he103sj)  ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Hard Drive:  Kingston SSDNow V100 Series 64GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/kingston-internal-hard-drive-sv100s2n64gz)  ($83.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card:  MSI GeForce GTX 580 3GB Video Card (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/msi-video-card-n580gtxlightningxtremeedition)  ($587.50 @ Newegg)
Case:  Cooler Master CM690 II Basic ATX Mid Tower Case (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/cooler-master-case-rc692kkn3)  ($79.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply:  Antec 850W CPX Power Supply (http://pcpartpicker.com/part/antec-power-supply-cp850)  ($89.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1795.40
(Prices include shipping and discounts when available.)


I'm getting $4K within the next few days. I don't want to spend any more than $2,000 on a computer. I want to be able to do:

- Advanced video conversions
- Play Oblivion on Extreme graphics without lag
- Play Minecraft (lol)
- Office stuff for school work

I believe this setup should work fine for that, but I want to see if there are any modifications I can make to get the most out of this computer as possible.
Ehh, I'm good with programming languages, as far as the actual computer goes... I'm clueless, sorry. Also, I thought you didn't like minecraft. :P
EDIT: Yes, I know I'm a failure as a geek.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Kamron3 on July 23, 2011, 11:03:40 PM
Haha, same here for the computer stuff. I know that a good CPU and GPU makes the computer, but its really hard to choose exactly which is which.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Ebon Heart on July 23, 2011, 11:38:28 PM
Quote from: Kamron3 on July 23, 2011, 11:03:40 PM
Haha, same here for the computer stuff. I know that a good CPU and GPU makes the computer, but its really hard to choose exactly which is which.
yay! I don't feel so stupid anymore. XD
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Mare on July 23, 2011, 11:48:58 PM
They shouldn't just give you the parts, if I remember correctly, they should also give you instruction manuals as to how to connect each part when you buy them. BTW, Is your supplier cheap? If it is, then I may want to make my own computer.

http://www.ehow.com/how_5340386_build-homemade-computer.html

This page should help.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Echo51 on July 24, 2011, 08:20:07 AM
Just be sure to consult your motherboard manual for where to put what plugs. and if you screw up, most PSU's just go on a click spree when shorted ;)
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: thepenguin on July 24, 2011, 09:44:31 AM
now i ask, why not just buy a pre-assembled PC?
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Ebon Heart on July 24, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on July 24, 2011, 09:44:31 AM
now i ask, why not just buy a pre-assembled PC?
It's less expensive to build it.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Jay the Juggernaut on July 24, 2011, 10:06:25 AM
Really? hmm. I'm saving up for a computer. I only need like an I-5 (not a computer expert...yet :P), and the computers I'm looking at are only 400-500 dollars.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: thepenguin on July 24, 2011, 10:41:21 AM
Quote from: Ebon_Heart on July 24, 2011, 09:55:52 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on July 24, 2011, 09:44:31 AM
now i ask, why not just buy a pre-assembled PC?
It's less expensive to build it.
that 100$ for a professionally assembled computer and an OS install and other software, and not to mention they check that it works before shipping (takes care of most errors), especially as I get the feeling that Kam has no Idea about how to put together a working computer.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Kamron3 on July 24, 2011, 10:53:28 AM
I know how to put together a computer. My grandpa does, too. He's gonna help out to make 100% we do this right.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Echo51 on July 25, 2011, 05:47:06 PM
You can't do it wrong unless you buy DDR3 rams for a DDR2 or something like that, which you should be bright enough to not do ;)
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Jay the Juggernaut on July 25, 2011, 07:19:29 PM
Quote from: Echo51 on July 25, 2011, 05:47:06 PM
You can't do it wrong unless you buy DDR3 rams for a DDR2 or something like that, which you should be bright enough to not do ;)

You see, this doesn't make sense to me. :( I still am working towards understanding it! ;)
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: thepenguin on July 25, 2011, 08:17:00 PM
probably things are clocked at different speeds or something like that
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: crazyone76 on July 26, 2011, 06:29:59 AM
if anyone could help me.
I have a compaq pressario pc....yes you can laugh
and I replaced the standard 512mb ram with 2 1gb ram.
now I bought a nvidia gt 220 video card and I can place it in the pc buuuuuut
whenever it gets to the screen where you can acess bios it freezes before I can instal the video card
now.... I think its becuase the other video card (ATI radeon xpress 200 see 2nd line)
cant be removed the nvidia card is pci-e
any halp?
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: thepenguin on July 26, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
Quote from: crazyone76 on July 26, 2011, 06:29:59 AM
if anyone could help me.
I have a compaq pressario pc....yes you can laugh
and I replaced the standard 512mb ram with 2 1gb ram.
now I bought a nvidia gt 220 video card and I can place it in the pc buuuuuut
whenever it gets to the screen where you can acess bios it freezes before I can instal the video card
now.... I think its becuase the other video card (ATI radeon xpress 200 see 2nd line)
cant be removed the nvidia card is pci-e
any halp?

advice for life:

make sure the components you buy are supported by your OS, (you can't use the same RAM drivers / firmware for 512 and 2G)
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Kamron3 on July 26, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on July 26, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
advice for life:

make sure the components you buy are supported by your OS, (you can't use the same RAM drivers / firmware for 512 and 2G)

Uh, TP, I don't think RAM has firmware/drivers in an OS.

As for your problem, crazyone, you probably installed an unsupported video card or you didn't install the video card correctly.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Echo51 on July 26, 2011, 02:59:13 PM
Too weak powersupply most likely.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: crazyone76 on July 27, 2011, 10:07:59 AM
Quote from: Kamron3 on July 26, 2011, 10:28:59 AM
Quote from: thepenguin on July 26, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
advice for life:

make sure the components you buy are supported by your OS, (you can't use the same RAM drivers / firmware for 512 and 2G)

Uh, TP, I don't think RAM has firmware/drivers in an OS.

As for your problem, crazyone, you probably installed an unsupported video card or you didn't install the video card correctly.



I cant even get to the instal part
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Kamron3 on July 27, 2011, 12:03:08 PM
I'm not sure what you mean, crazy. You have to install the video card into the motherboard before you can install drivers for the video card.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: crazyone76 on July 27, 2011, 12:37:39 PM
erm... Im pretty bad with pc's
I can install it into the motherboard
I turn on the pc I see the normal screen I see when I start my pc
then theres a screen (normal) that asks me to press f2 to continue
and when I press f2 it freezes
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Kamron3 on July 27, 2011, 12:39:29 PM
It's probably not supported by the motherboard or as Bjorn said, it's a lack of power supply.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Echo51 on July 27, 2011, 04:14:45 PM
It's a clean harddrive right? insert a bootable CD and off you go ;)
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: crazyone76 on July 28, 2011, 10:26:23 AM
I tried the above and its not the power suply
but whats suposed to happen
when I press f2 it just says reading nvram got my hopes up
left it on that screen 5 hours nothing happened
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: CobraKill on July 28, 2011, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: crazyone76 on July 28, 2011, 10:26:23 AM
I tried the above and its not the power suply
but whats suposed to happen
when I press f2 it just says reading nvram got my hopes up
left it on that screen 5 hours nothing happened

I am not good at building my computers, but I would take out the graphics card and check your drivers, firmware, BIOS, pretty much everything and update whatever you can. If your still having the problem, call your computer maunfacture, maybe they can help.

My dad put in new RAM a new Video Card and a new processor into my brother's computer and we couldn't get it to work. We called Dell and they told us exactly what to do.
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: crazyone76 on July 28, 2011, 03:49:17 PM
I gonna get a new pc anyway
goodbye blaming lag
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: Jay the Juggernaut on July 28, 2011, 03:58:20 PM
Quote from: crazyone76 on July 28, 2011, 03:49:17 PM
I gonna get a new pc anyway
goodbye blaming lag

Me too! Well, I guess that makes 3 of us! ;D
Title: Re: Anyone out there good at building PCs?
Post by: MokT on August 08, 2011, 12:44:06 AM
lol coming a little late to this topic, but it was/is part of my job to build computers. if ne1 has any more questions just post and ill help.