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Author: UpperKEES (http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/viewmaps.php?author=UpperKEES)
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I recommend this map only if you like very long fights, because it's boring! It features crazonium, high intensity emitters, Thor and a time limit; all things I don't like. Don't play it! If you do so anyway, you'll have 7 min. to prepare yourself.
Please rate this map with 1 star (see intro text).
i honestly dont see how this map is fun. I now truely understand.
Title: | Bored To Death |
Difficulty: | Expert Only |
Creeper type: | Land & Air (but only as time limit) |
Remarks: | I recommend this map only if you like very long fights, because it's boring! It features crazonium, high intensity emitters, Thor and a time limit; things I'm not very fond of myself. Don't play it! If you do so anyway, you'll have 7 minutes to prepare yourself....
Please rate this map with 1 star (see intro text why).
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Description: | There I am, fallen asleep with my nose on the keyboard. I could actually be dead.
You know why? Because I just downloaded the most boring map ever and so did you. It features crazonium, Thor, many high intensity emitters and a time limit. People who know me a little bit will understand that this is not my kind of map, but some others seem to love it.
I even bought a pink MacBook to find out if I would like the crazonium better when it matched, but to no avail. Soon I will be drooling out of my mouth onto the laptop, so the slobber will start pouring out of the ventilation grilles and the DVD-player as well.
Please rate it with 1 star, because boring maps shouldn't be rated high, even if you are able to finish it or just survive. Don't give stars for the concept or graphics either please! Boring is boring. Comments are welcome of course, just like requests for hints how to survive. I won't give away how to complete it however and I kindly ask you not to do so at the forums either.
Are you able to finish a little faster than me so it won't be the map with the longest completion time ever? I sure hope you won't!
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Download page: | Bored To Death (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3953) |
Full size screen shot: | (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=978.0;attach=900;image)
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Prefer an interesting map? | Try some of these! ;) (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=978.0) |
This map is not part of any series and isn't representative for my other maps. It's the exact opposite of my style, so don't let this one scare you off. It's a statement against boring maps; play it and you'll understand. Or even better: don't play it, as I want this to be the map with the longest completion time (without the extensive use of decaying walls). If you dislike boring maps as well, please rate this map with 1 star!
*I won't be giving tips how to solve this one, but I have no problem helping you out how to survive if you can't figure that out. Posting about this or asking questions is no problem at all, but
I would appreciate it when you don't post how you completed it if you managed to do so. Thanks in advance! :)
Quote from: F0R on July 15, 2010, 02:53:18 AM
i honestly dont see how this map is fun. I now truely understand.
Heheh, you're getting the point! Thanks for your 1 star. ;)
Wow, you managed to combine every irritating thing on a map, crazonium walls, 0.1 interval emitters, high intensity emitters, awful colors, bad totem placement,
and last but not least: a completely boring way to win the map.
So I only see three possibilities, you wanted just one *, the lowest score or have the only score on a map.
That's why I'm not only going to beat this map but also give it *****, mwahahaha!!! :P
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 03:40:17 AM
Wow, you managed to combine every irritating thing on a map, crazonium walls, 0.1 interval emitters, high intensity emitters, awful colors, bad totem placement,
and last but not least: a completely boring way to win the map.
Exactly how I intended. :) But hey, my shirt has a nice color! ;D
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 03:40:17 AM
So I only see three possibilities, you wanted just one *, the lowest score or have the only score on a map.
All of these 3, plus the fact that I wanted to make a statement. And what better way to make a CW statement can you think of than making a CW map to illustrate it?
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 03:40:17 AM
That's why I'm not only going to beat this map but also give it *****, mwahahaha!!! :P
I can't stop you, but you're wasting your precious holidays! Go outside and enjoy the sun! I'm afraid it takes too much skill to be able to solve this map....
Quote from: UpperKEES on July 15, 2010, 03:51:10 AM
I can't stop you, but you're wasting your precious holidays! Go outside and enjoy the sun! I'm afraid it takes too much skill to be able to solve this map....
Only if with skill you mean a lot of patience :D
Yes, patience too. Boring and patience go hand in hand. My advise is: pause a lot to avoid mistakes!
I made it as far as 6 mins.
What a complete waste of 167 minutes, although I am impressed you made it past 166 and 2/3.
Veni, Vidi, Vic... Oh crap >:(
Well, that was my reaction after playing this map, I spent almost three hours playing this map, finally got the artifact just before some spores landed.
Then I already started being happy, but then disaster struck, I forgot there was that totem (After three hours your mind isn't very clear anymore I guess), so I spent some time waiting for the rift, which hurt OC, then I saw the totem, moved the city to it, and it was loaded and I started saying Veni,... but then OC exploded as I forgot to fly it while the rift was being formed.
But, now I know this map is fully possible and everybody should be able to finish it, but I'm not going to waste another three hours on a map like this.
So, Kees you won and I'll give you your one * ;D
Quote from: RichieRich on July 15, 2010, 06:32:17 AM
I made it as far as 6 mins.
Don't tell me you die even before the walls break? :o
Quote from: RichieRich on July 15, 2010, 06:32:17 AM
What a complete waste of 167 minutes
Hahaha! You can say that again! ;D I failed a few times myself, trying to set a time, so I wasted even more.... ;)
Quote from: RichieRich on July 15, 2010, 06:32:17 AM
although I am impressed you made it past 166 and 2/3.
Yeah, I guess those hundreds -maybe even thousands- of hours of playing CW finally pay off. Not sure what you mean with '2/3' though.
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 08:08:04 AM
Veni, Vidi, Vic... Oh crap >:(
Well, that was my reaction after playing this map, I spent almost three hours playing this map, finally got the artifact just before some spores landed.
Then I already started being happy, but then disaster struck, I forgot there was that totem (After three hours your mind isn't very clear anymore I guess), so I spent some time waiting for the rift, which hurt OC, then I saw the totem, moved the city to it, and it was loaded and I started saying Veni,... but then OC exploded as I forgot to fly it while the rift was being formed.
Heheh! Yeah, the venom is in the tail, as we say here in The Netherlands (and Belgium ;)). Never think you've made it until the money is in your pocket....
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 08:08:04 AM
But, now I know this map is fully possible and everybody should be able to finish it, but I'm not going to waste another three hours on a map like this.
Exactly what I hoped for! 8)
Only too bad the same happened to
The Artist (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3787) and
The Developer (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3919). You also started these (and even almost finished one of them), but never came to submitting a score. Now
these maps are worth (re)playing! :) It's actually been quite a while since I've seen a score by you for one of my maps. I just noticed you only finished 5 of them! :o
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 08:08:04 AM
So, Kees you won and I'll give you your one * ;D
Thanks Sqaz! That's all I can ask for and all I deserve. :P
Quote from: UpperKEES on July 15, 2010, 09:30:52 AM
Only too bad the same happened to The Artist (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3787) and The Developer (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3919). You also started these (and even almost finished one of them), but never came to submitting a score. Now these maps are worth (re)playing! :) It's actually been quite a while since I've seen a score by you for one of my maps. I just noticed you only finished 5 of them! :o
I think my attention span is to smal to replay maps, especially now it are holidays, so I tend to stop playing maps once I found out how to finish them, as I hate to fight after I found out how to stay alive as then it's just a matter of time (see my comments at NJ 1). But maybe I'll once do a NJ Marathon 25 NJ maps in a row but only when it's school again and my brains are used to work again.
But you made your statement on the boring maps, and that's good cause there seems to arrive a lot more of them lately.
There was a time when there was a stickied topic called "How to make good maps" or something made by Virgil, maybe this should be re-stickied to help people to make fun, non-boring maps.
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 09:44:32 AM
I think my attention span is to smal to replay maps, especially now it are holidays, so I tend to stop playing maps once I found out how to finish them, as I hate to fight after I found out how to stay alive as then it's just a matter of time (see my comments at NJ 1). But maybe I'll once do a NJ Marathon 25 NJ maps in a row but only when it's school again and my brains are used to work again.
In that case I'd give some of the Nice Jobs you never played a try. Some of them can be finished very fast (before you have a chance to get bored) and for other the 'turning point' is postponed for quite a while. Not sure if I would be able to handle a full marathon; even I might become bored of my own maps. :P I think max 2-3 per day would be nicer and your school work won't suffer either.
Quote from: Sqaz on July 15, 2010, 09:44:32 AM
But you made your statement on the boring maps, and that's good cause there seems to arrive a lot more of them lately.
There was a time when there was a stickied topic called "How to make good maps" or something made by Virgil, maybe this should be re-stickied to help people to make fun, non-boring maps.
Yeah, I noticed that too; hence this map.
Good point about that Map Making Guide. I remember now you mention it; it was really useful to new map makers (good considerations). It seems it was first
moved (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=86.0) and then deleted. ??? :( Virgil?
HAHAHAHAHAHA I looked, I saw, I ran away so fast I broke the sound barrier.
I don't know what makes me laugh more, that you made this map, or you spending all that time testing it then setting the score! Either it has been raining there all day, or there was something unexpected in that breakfast you ate today at that café.
Seems to be alot of waiting here , just waiting for the death =P
This is for sure the badest map ever made with all that work behind it =P
I awarded you with 1 *
but good graphics =)
Quote from: UpperKEES on July 15, 2010, 10:01:07 AM
Good point about that Map Making Guide. I remember now you mention it; it was really useful to new map makers (good considerations). It seems it was first moved (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=86.0) and then deleted. ??? :( Virgil?
Virgil told me it was unfortunately deleted by accident, probably at the same moment the first 'Unapproved Map Discussion' was deleted. :(
Quote from: peter on July 15, 2010, 06:36:13 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHA I looked, I saw, I ran away so fast I broke the sound barrier.
I don't know what makes me laugh more, that you made this map, or you spending all that time testing it then setting the score! Either it has been raining there all day, or there was something unexpected in that breakfast you ate today at that café.
I came up with the idea just a couple of days ago after a look at the
toplist thread (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3833.0). I wanted to create a very long lasting map without the extensive use of decaying walls. Testing took me indeed longer than I expected, but it was also a lot of fun. I just skipped a night to have enough time.... :P Thanks to the people in chat for keeping me awake!
Quote from: SPIFFEN on July 15, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
Seems to be alot of waiting here , just waiting for the death =P
Yeah, you sometimes have to wait a while and be patient before you can advance, just like in normal life.
Quote from: SPIFFEN on July 15, 2010, 10:47:34 PM
This is for sure the badest map ever made with all that work behind it =P
I awarded you with 1 *
Thanks Spiff! :) The funny thing is that I often get 1 star for my other maps from somebody who apparently doesn't like me (hard to be friends with everybody I guess). This time I probably got 5 stars from this same person! ;D Maybe I should ask Virgil for the IP address of this person....
Quote from: F0R on July 16, 2010, 01:44:21 AM
but good graphics =)
Thanks. I wanted to make at least 1 thing good about this map. ;) The image is also rather applicable. I got the idea from Spiffen's face and thought it would be nice to show myself on one of my maps.
Oh my Face map need more attation , so i'll add an link to it here =)
I hope thats okey with you .
http://knucklecracker.com/creeperworld/mapcomments.php?id=2491&page=
Quote from: SPIFFEN on July 16, 2010, 12:08:18 PM
Oh my Face map need more attation , so i'll add an link to it here =)
I hope thats okey with you .
Sure, we're here to help each other, aren't we? :) I've added a link from your face to this one as well.
I hope we all are trying to help each other in some way =) , and i hope there are someone else thats thats makes some " face " map as well =)
They should also add links to simalary maps , so it's easyier to find them =)
Quote from: SPIFFEN on July 16, 2010, 12:31:03 PM
They should also add links to simalary maps , so it's easyier to find them =)
You could consider creating a special thread for these kind of maps, just like the thread for
geographic maps (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3257.0). This might stimulate more people to make a map of themselves. :)
Quote from: UpperKEES on July 17, 2010, 10:17:04 AM
This might stimulate more people to make a map of themselves. :)
I can't believe people want their face to be infected by creeper, shot by blasters, and colored green by collectors ;D
Quote from: Sqaz on July 17, 2010, 10:21:26 AM
I can't believe people want their face to be infected by creeper, shot by blasters, and colored green by collectors ;D
For some people it might be an improvement! ;D
He he =)
It's an great idea , would be nice to see what maps end up like =)
But it does'nt need to be your own face =P
Edit : i'm starting an face thread =) (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3983.0)
Quote from: UpperKEES on July 17, 2010, 10:36:36 AM
Quote from: Sqaz on July 17, 2010, 10:21:26 AM
I can't believe people want their face to be infected by creeper, shot by blasters, and colored green by collectors ;D
For some people it might be an improvement! ;D
Hey, I resemble that comment!!!
you should make a video of how you did it
cause im bored too but am too lazy to actually do it
Either with or without video you would still have to do it, which takes the same amount of time. The fun I get out of CW is not about the question if I'm am able to finish a map, but about how I finish a map. Figuring out the best (and sometimes only) approach is what keeps me interested. That's why I prefer maps without a straight forward solution. Like with most travels in life it's about the road you take and not about the final destination. It's along the way that you learn and when I achieve my goal I quickly look for a new one to keep me going.
Quote from: wessew on July 18, 2010, 11:34:42 PM
you should make a video of how you did it , cause im bored too but am too lazy to actually do it
You really dont want to waste your time on this map ,
you actually might be bored to death if you play it =P
First you have 7 min to make sure your safe ,
then you have atleast 2,5 hours to build the right things ,
and if you dont , you have to restart .
So do not waste your time on this map , it can take you days before you manage to post an score .
Yep, that's right! This map can only be finished by a few people in the entire galaxy and I even recommend them not to give it a try. Just leave me alone with my score! :P
Quote from: UpperKEES on July 19, 2010, 09:56:13 AM
Yep, that's right! This map can only be finished by a few people in the entire galaxy and I even recommend them not to give it a try. Just leave me alone with my score! :P
Yes, leave him alone, it's not worth it, it's only a matter of seconds between you finishing and the time limit.
And Kees his best hint was: Pauze a lot ;)
Quote from: Sqaz on July 19, 2010, 11:26:43 AM
it's only a matter of seconds between you finishing and the time limit.
I actually finished
after the time limit to extend the completion time. ;)
Quote from: Sqaz on July 19, 2010, 11:26:43 AM
And Kees his best hint was: Pauze a lot ;)
Yep, pausing is very important when you like to set a good time, especially when fighting simultaneously at multiple fronts (that goes for every map). It's also a good way to make a map even more boring than it already is. ;D
Congratulations, you have earned my 1 star
Thanks shroomdog! :)
I've PMed with a few people that still like to beat this map and I have decided to give just one hint: study this map thoroughly in the map editor, because you won't be able to beat it with 'normal' play, even when you use Thor.
Please don't post more hints once you've figured it out....
I admit defeat >:(, or at least for now. Only one other map I have played and decided to beat has been as hard as this. Nice Job 2: The Athlete. I do not have enough fingers and toes x2 to count how many times I attempted that map :o. At least with that map, though, it was considerably shorter. I could get mad at my computer, storm out of the room, yell a bit, then come back a couple hours later and try again :P. This map is different. My main problem though, is the lag. By the end of my attempt, every second in the game was worth more than 5 seconds. That would have meant 10+ hours before I would have finished :(. Not practical. I can and will beat this map, probally in a couple months. The reason I have so much lag is that I am playing on a laptop. Our main computer decided to die a ways back (before I got Creeper World), and all I have is my laptop and a computer with less processing power than my laptop. But by the end of the summer, I will have a brand new, high tech computer. Then I will be back.... ;D
10+ hours isn't very practical indeed. I would actually call it boring! ;D
If you are able to 'play' on a very small (or even tiny) screen, you could consider resizing your window, which will improve the game speed a lot (1 second becomes 1 second again ;)).
Decided to give this a shot just for laughs. Managed to escape the start area and move all the way to the right then all the way down, was at 33 collection, constant 32 spending, and teetering with a deficit. I could not push across the bottom to get that artifact no matter how many drones/blasters I used...
And did I overlooksomething at the bottom.... but there is no way to get out of the bottom without trying to build a relay right ontop of a emitter?
Quote from: Vexsin on July 29, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
Decided to give this a shot just for laughs.
And, did you laugh? :P
Quote from: Vexsin on July 29, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
Managed to escape the start area and move all the way to the right then all the way down, was at 33 collection, constant 32 spending, and teetering with a deficit. I could not push across the bottom to get that artifact no matter how many drones/blasters I used...
I received a screenshot yesterday from someone who managed to do the same thing. He was also at 32+ collection with a huge arsenal of drones, blasters and mortars. My respect for the both of you; I never thought people would be able to survive outside the crazonium walls! I don't think you can finish this map the conventional way however, because of the maximum output of Odin City.
Quote from: Vexsin on July 29, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
And did I overlooksomething at the bottom.... but there is no way to get out of the bottom without trying to build a relay right ontop of a emitter?
If you say so.... ;)
Quote from: UpperKEES
And, did you laugh? :P
Yes because you actually made a map like this =)
Quote from: UpperKEES
If you say so.... ;)
I must have missed it then
Quote from: Vexsin on July 30, 2010, 10:31:59 AM
I must have missed it then
Oh, I figured you
did notice it (in the map editor). Study the (stacked) emitters closely.... ;)
Yeah.. I opened it up in the editor and saw what's up there, def not waiting around for that =)
Quote from: Vexsin on July 30, 2010, 12:22:14 PM
Yeah.. I opened it up in the editor and saw what's up there, def not waiting around for that =)
Hmmm, then you probably don't like boring maps.... :P
6 people actually do, as they awarded this map with 5 stars. 16 players didn't and gave it just 1 star. This means 27% can appreciate being bored, so I guess there's a market for that! ;)
You know I think I will do it in the morning, and I kind of figure if I finish it I will have a time extremely close to yours for once. ;)
Quote from: RichieRich on August 11, 2010, 11:40:51 AM
You know I think I will do it in the morning
Better get up early! ;D
Quote from: RichieRich on August 11, 2010, 11:40:51 AM
I kind of figure if I finish it I will have a time extremely close to yours for once. ;)
That would be very likely.... ;)
This was harder than I thought as I did not anticipate keeping OC alive in the crazonium to be as hard as it was. That took 3 goes.
Then, having got set up, I left it alone and forgot the time and missed the 13 second slot.
After that, just too bored with it to do it again. You win. Rating 1. ;D
Quote from: RichieRich on August 12, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
This was harder than I thought as I did not anticipate keeping OC alive in the crazonium to be as hard as it was. That took 3 goes.
Yeah, it's amazing how much creeper can be pushed through the tiny gaps in the crazonium wall. You can hold back the creeper without Thor though (I don't even build it), but you'll have to place your blasters carefully.
Quote from: RichieRich on August 12, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
Then, having got set up, I left it alone and forgot the time and missed the 13 second slot.
Setting an alarm clock might help here.... ;) (And when you minimize the screen the playing time will elapse just as fast as the real time.)
Quote from: RichieRich on August 12, 2010, 09:07:51 AM
After that, just too bored with it to do it again. You win. Rating 1. ;D
Thanks! ;D
Edit:Quote from: Vexsin on July 29, 2010, 01:41:12 PM
Managed to escape the start area and move all the way to the right then all the way down, was at 33 collection, constant 32 spending, and teetering with a deficit.
Maybe nice to see how someone else (Brondahl) attempted to solve this map the same way:
(http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/mdm35/Image.bmp)
This is obviously
not the way to go.... ;) (Although the two of you definitely played very well. :))
That is what I did, but I did not move the city. And minimizing it did not help. :( Much. Of course, if I built a bit less, that might help. ;)
QuoteMaybe nice to see how someone else (Brondahl) attempted to solve this map the same way:
(http://people.pwf.cam.ac.uk/mdm35/Image.bmp)
This is obviously not the way to go.... ;) (Although the two of you definitely played very well. :))
Hey there,
yeah, that took quite a while, I was also suffering from the lag that Fisherck gets. I had to pause it, build/move stuff, play it for 30 seconds then repeat... ughh
Having said that, getting to this point isn't particularlt hard ... you can use Thor as a shield and just sit behind it until you've maxed out your energy. then the rows of blaster's require a little thought to get them built, but really getting this far isn't much of a (skill) challenge. A patience and not just giving up challenge, definitely; but not skill.
Your other maps KEES, are much more interesting, and much harder.
I may even manage to beat one at some point ;)
Brondahl
(PS. Sorry I never got round to posting the image - I've been rather busy recently.)
Quote from: Fisherck on August 14, 2010, 03:03:39 PM
That is what I did, but I did not move the city. And minimizing it did not help. :( Much. Of course, if I built a bit less, that might help. ;)
Quote from: Brondahl on August 15, 2010, 06:57:18 AM
yeah, that took quite a while, I was also suffering from the lag that Fisherck gets. I had to pause it, build/move stuff, play it for 30 seconds then repeat... ughh
I'm curious to know if the latest AIR update (2.0.3) does solve the delay. Before I minimized the window I resized to a tiny window (something like 150 x 100 pixels) and had my time elapse in a rather normal way.
Quote from: Brondahl on August 15, 2010, 06:57:18 AM
Having said that, getting to this point isn't particularlt hard ... you can use Thor as a shield and just sit behind it until you've maxed out your energy. then the rows of blaster's require a little thought to get them built, but really getting this far isn't much of a (skill) challenge. A patience and not just giving up challenge, definitely; but not skill.
Don't underestimate yourself! Many people aren't even able to survive within the crazonium, let alone escape from it....
Quote from: Brondahl on August 15, 2010, 06:57:18 AM
Your other maps KEES, are much more interesting, and much harder.
I may even manage to beat one at some point ;)
Thanks (and I agree). :) I'm sure you will be able to. I recommend starting with
NJ-1: The Hydraulic Engineer (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=1434),
NJ-10: The Teacher (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3188),
NJ-18: The Chemist (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3604) or
NJ-24: The Astronomer (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=3875). These maps are probably the easiest in the series and will give some clues how to solve the other ones as well. The other 3 medium rated maps turned out a bit harder than expected (and should probably have been rated 'Hard').
Quote from: Fisherck on July 21, 2010, 11:53:10 PM
I admit defeat >:(, or at least for now. I can and will beat this map, probally in a couple months. Then I will be back.... ;D
Finally! I did it! I did it! I did it! I did it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :o
I said I would be back and I did come back. Not only did I finish, but I beat you in the sense of getting a longer time than you :D. Unfortunately, it took me 2 tries to do this >:(. I can say one thing though, I am never playing this map again. ;D
Heheh! ;D Well, 2 tries is not bad at all! It took me 4 after messing up....
Thanks for extending the average map time! ;)
I looked at this map and thought to myself "I'll just fly OC over there and get the totem by hovering." After doing so, I was kindly informed that there was still an artifact. Needless to say, this map is no longer in my collection of custom maps ;D
Oh! :o Picking up an artifact shouldn't be that hard? Or is it? ;)
You actually made a very wise decision (after making the big mistake of downloading it.... ;D)
Yah, I'm trying to become slightly better are some of these tricks. I used to just stay back and build up lots of energy and take forever, but after seeing some scores (read: this week's chronom contest) I became determined to get better. First time poster, long time player btw :)
Quote from: Nate Dog on September 16, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
I used to just stay back and build up lots of energy and take forever, but after seeing some scores (read: this week's chronom contest)
Hmmm, that's actually exactly how I set my scores. ;) Just don't stay back too long (know when you have enough energy to rush to the totems).
Nice to see you participating as well!
Quote from: Nate Dog on September 16, 2010, 06:24:58 PM
First time poster, long time player btw :)
Never too late to join the forums! :)
BTW: tip for this map now the new update has been released: use the double speed option (up arrow)! Would have saved me about 5 hours during my 4 attempts.... ;)
I've decided to work on your Nice Job series instead (at least for the moment). These look like a lot of fun!.. and less work :P
Quote from: Nate Dog on September 16, 2010, 11:27:51 PM
I've decided to work on your Nice Job series instead (at least for the moment). These look like a lot of fun!.. and less work :P
Good choice! Definitely more fun, although I'm not sure about the amount of work.... (You'll find hints for almost every map in the comments. Don't read them if you like to figure it out yourself.)
Yah, I'm not sure about the amount of work. I'm awful at multi-tasking, so this is gonna be tough. I was doing the soccer player one and I was like "Oh, SAMs would be good" *build a SAM* "Aww come on, another blaster died?!" Grr...
Just pause before you build or move something. When I play my left index finger is on the P-key all the time. ;) You'll find that fighting at multiple fronts suddenly becomes dead easy.
so yeah, I just spent over 10 hrs tryin to figure this one out. I got to the right side and moved OC but kept the top center and left. I was assaulting the "drool" from the head with 16 drones and 12 blasters trying to free up thor for other parts of the map. one of my blasters on the right ran out of juice and got overrun. There were so many buildings that 1 game second in double speed was about 3 seconds. its a challenge, but DAMN its BORING!! I surrender. Its hell of a map.
It's probably even more boring when you know how to solve it, so I think it's a wise decision to surrender. At least you performed a heavy CPU test! :P
One star please! ;)
God.. Been playing for 30 minutes. Just got out the the computer screen then I am disconnected from my blasters for a sec while building connector and I start hearing explosions. O CRAP MY BLASTERS! I give.
Did it ;D. This is crazy. You have to know, that emitters have also a special ability...
Wow! Nice Job! 8) And a great time.... ;)
I honestly hadn't thought someone else besides Fisherck and me would be able to finish this one as well. Congrats! :)
I'm trying it... and I'm bound determined to fight around here! lol. If I don't well, I still have everything set up to get the artifact in time, then fly the city where it needs to go.
And? Made it? :P
I'm gonna try again later... I tried to move the city down, and lost connection to all my stuff for a moment, enough for the bottom blasters to be overwhelmed, then my city to be destroyed as I tried to move thor back, hoping to save it. gah.
Damn! I had a totem, but I forgot to artefact! :(
Quote from: llljjj on August 07, 2011, 06:45:41 AM
Damn! I had a totem, but I forgot to artefact! :(
Oh, but then you were already done for 50%! Just pick up that artifact quickly.... ;)
Can you tell me how to get the artifact? I thought about it. I can get other than to relay the position emmiters? Or go under emmiters?
Quote from: llljjj on August 07, 2011, 07:28:19 AM
Can you tell me how to get the artifact? I thought about it. I can get other than to relay the position emmiters? Or go under emmiters?
You're pretty close, but I'm not going to reveal more than what has already been written in the other comments.
"Take a walk in the park" would actually be the best suggestion I can give you.... :P
I think this map would be possible to beat before the Big timer if nit for that stupid artifact.
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 07, 2011, 07:58:45 AM
I think this map would be possible to beat before the Big timer if nit for that stupid artifact.
I'm sure it would be. In fact it would only take about 20 seconds to fly Odin City to the totem and charge it.... ;D
Quote from: UpperKEES on August 07, 2011, 08:00:37 AM
Quote from: Ebon Heart on August 07, 2011, 07:58:45 AM
I think this map would be possible to beat before the Big timer if nit for that stupid artifact.
I'm sure it would be. In fact it would only take about 20 seconds to fly Odin City to the totem and charge it.... ;D
I mean fighting through...
We can finish the round before the 9987 seconds of the game?
Yep, absolutely.
I have thought about this map.
Want to use very extreme means to complete
Unfortunately, the failure rate is too high,
need to use L / S (unfortunately cw1 no L / s)
To be successful. (mainly not so much patience)
Spoiler
The use of drone, the use of continuous specific time.
Bombing of a 30-second gap. (Maybe more, no longer play, I forget)
Use a bridge, the establishment of two collector, Then get the artifact
Finally link totem, you can pass.
If someone can complete, about the current time /5
I don't think you'll be able to solve this one with continuous drone bombing, even when supported by Thor.
Bridging with Odin City will also be hard, because you can't fly OC close to the artifact.
There is a much easier way however! But it's boring.... ;)
Quote from: UpperKEES on November 15, 2011, 03:05:58 PM
I don't think you'll be able to solve this one with continuous drone bombing, even when supported by Thor.
Bridging with Odin City will also be hard, because you can't fly OC close to the artifact.
There is a much easier way however! But it's boring.... ;)
Thor no way to do it.
But drone can create a "vacuum mode".
In my third map, and finally the adoption of this method.(Just the amount of different.)
OC bridge, because the angle is very very small, I have to complete one collector,
Then Because it wasted too much time. (too difficult to control the angle).
So the second ... It failed, :-\
from not playing.
Hmmmm, interesting! :) Post a screenshot (press backspace) next time, because I'd like to see this (even if it fails).
Too long did not play, go test it.
Embarrassed ... embarrassed ... I found, seems I am remember the wrong.
Really is, use drone blasted a hole.
But only the emitter side (near where the artifact).
Because the computer is too lag (emitter and creeper too much), will lead to a halt on failure. = =
I skip the build drone, and then thor does not cover, with Thor to guard range.
Because the two are too close to the emitter, Bombing does not come out.
So this is no way the build of a collector.
Only artifact side, collector can be built.
But oc no way too close, if able to near.
Have the opportunity to succeed....
Oops ... let you be disappointed. XD
I think this method you may know it.
I also make a small map, test it. (Better control)
emitter 0.1s 500x1
emitter 0.1s 300x7
The use of penetration, to a continuous production gap.
Need to see the number of aircraft and aircraft to determine the time interval.
Using penetrating power,If want to create a continuous gap.
Required number of drone and interval of time, to decide.
In fact, it is. at the instant of the explosion to suppress the emission.
Hey CJY101, that bottom screenshot is very interesting!
It shows you could theoretically be right for this map (although you can't fly OC close to the artifact, so you indeed would have to build a few collectors). Timing the initial drone assault (their first 3-4 bombs) isn't too hard, but their following runs (the next 10 bombs) will probably be spread too much in time to be able to benefit from the gap, because there are too many emitters. Apart from that I think it will cost too much energy to be able to protect their bases and the reactors during the full duration of the assault, because you'd need quite some space for all the drone bases.
Nevertheless fun to watch and I bet you can make your own custom maps around this! :)
PS: did you always have the lines on your screen? These shouldn't be there, see here (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=7113.0).
I find the consept amusing, but I say its difficulty should be easy to medium.All you need to survive at the beggining is a thor and 3 blasters.
Haha, old goodie one :D. Awesome map. Still only some scores... I have to create a map by myself I guess, what you guess ??
UpperKEES just lost.I made my version of this map on CW2 and it's best time is about 1300 minutes.1 emitter,1 gateway is all I put into it. Fridge,your the best at beating maps,I'd expect the same for making them too!
Quote from: Powerdown on March 09, 2012, 07:42:28 AM
UpperKEES just lost.I made my version of this map on CW2 and it's best time is about 1300 minutes.1 emitter,1 gateway is all I put into it.
You miss the point by so far, it's not even worth trying to explain to you. In your map (which uses fields that were not even available in CW1, you are *never* in danger of losing. Never. Almost all of the time spent on your map is senseless waiting for either Dark Beam to burn through multiple-health objects or for a lone Maker to overcome senselessly dense creeper pinned in fields.
Great map! Comes with its own alarm clock and burn in test. (run in full screen mode for best results) ;D
Rated 1 * because the drool fried my computer.
Spoiler
It really is a boring map.
Great time blank! *thumbs up*
I knew their was a little margin, but 6 seconds is actually a lot in this case (how strange that may seem after playing for 2:45 hours ;)).
Nice job! 8)
Timing things (at least through AI like mortars and such) is nearly impossible. I tried to make a map where you fought thin creeper with mortars but the timing was way off.
Although that kind of timing isn't required for this map at all, it is possible to implement. See this map (http://knucklecracker.com/forums/index.php?topic=5425.msg29667#msg29667) for a good example.